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Connecticut 3%er open letter to law enforcement
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Another great scene from V
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The underlying problem with counting on LEO’ to do the right thing, to follow their oath is severely hindered, I tend to think, for the following reasons (although there are more considerations):
1. A qualified field or beat officer now makes at least $60,000, upward to $80,000 each year. Whereas, any other private sector job that they would be lucky to qualify for would not be likely to bring in more than $25,000 per year.
2. They can advance rapidly on a mere criminology degree (a largely useless degree that is easily obtainable), making detective, supervisor, or even manager. And with a master in criminology they can advance into a top leadership role earning beyond $120,000 per year and their own private office.
3. Most have no concept of (or respect for) America’s founding, and will never even bother with such distinctions or considerations. Further, their standards and training provides virtually zero consideration to such aspects; and their more advanced training is increasingly connecting it to extremists, radicals, loons, and “those kinds of people”.
4. LE departments are rabid with nepotism and LE family-lines, which contribute to them upholding long held family expectations and otherwise to peer pressure.
5. Similar to the military, most LE departments permit for retirement after only 20-years.
6. Due to outstanding contractual perks, a LEO that remains financial prudence throughout their career can retire early as a millionaire.
7. A LEO that does not play the game, will get bad evaluations, will not receive promotions, will be shunned by their peers, will not be considered for special duties or details (e.g., SWAT, undercover operations, etc.), and once a pattern of such “disobedience” is established they will eventually be terminated and appealing to their union representatives will be poorly received.
8. Should they be terminated for cause, that means they are prohibited from even being considered for any other public employment positions within that city or town; and further severely impacts their employment opportunities throughout the public sector (be it local, state, or federal).
1. A qualified field or beat officer now makes at least $60,000, upward to $80,000 each year. Whereas, any other private sector job that they would be lucky to qualify for would not be likely to bring in more than $25,000 per year.
2. They can advance rapidly on a mere criminology degree (a largely useless degree that is easily obtainable), making detective, supervisor, or even manager. And with a master in criminology they can advance into a top leadership role earning beyond $120,000 per year and their own private office.
3. Most have no concept of (or respect for) America’s founding, and will never even bother with such distinctions or considerations. Further, their standards and training provides virtually zero consideration to such aspects; and their more advanced training is increasingly connecting it to extremists, radicals, loons, and “those kinds of people”.
4. LE departments are rabid with nepotism and LE family-lines, which contribute to them upholding long held family expectations and otherwise to peer pressure.
5. Similar to the military, most LE departments permit for retirement after only 20-years.
6. Due to outstanding contractual perks, a LEO that remains financial prudence throughout their career can retire early as a millionaire.
7. A LEO that does not play the game, will get bad evaluations, will not receive promotions, will be shunned by their peers, will not be considered for special duties or details (e.g., SWAT, undercover operations, etc.), and once a pattern of such “disobedience” is established they will eventually be terminated and appealing to their union representatives will be poorly received.
8. Should they be terminated for cause, that means they are prohibited from even being considered for any other public employment positions within that city or town; and further severely impacts their employment opportunities throughout the public sector (be it local, state, or federal).
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I fear the worst, but I hope for the best. If they try to enforce this, they will succeed, but that will only be the first battle. If they withdraw and the law becomes moot, then just as the first colonists pushed for more, the people will feel that they can push for more, that they can get what they want by resistance.
Unfortunately, I think this government has learned the mistakes of England's tyrannical ways and will not repeat them. If enough people rebel and they attempt to squander the rebellion, they will continue until the rebellion is squandered, at all costs. Hold on to your hats, ladies and gentlemen; better yet, your guns.
Unfortunately, I think this government has learned the mistakes of England's tyrannical ways and will not repeat them. If enough people rebel and they attempt to squander the rebellion, they will continue until the rebellion is squandered, at all costs. Hold on to your hats, ladies and gentlemen; better yet, your guns.
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Hey anybody want to donate money to purchase 100,000 V for vendetta masks and send them to Connecticut?
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The government never learns.
And the elitists,, the social controllers will never stop.
This needs the inevitable confrontation. And the elitists need to lose hard,, to keep them quiet for many years..
but they will never stop. They never do.
Would you want to stand with them against the police? We know two things about them: 1. they ultimately did bend knee to the state, and 2. they procrastinated about doing it.
To me that says 1. they won't resist the police, when they come, and 2. if they did change their minds and there was an offer of support by others against police confiscation, they would procrastinate about making preparations.
When the cops come for their guns, those people will serve as a signal to everyone else in the country. Until they prove otherwise, that's the only thing I'd trust them for.
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I'm not sure why you would say the government never learns. They are quite good at doing bad things on purpose, but that doesn't mean they're bumbling fools. They can and do learn how to keep us subdued.
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That has been known for thousands of years.
Government is brute force. and only understands brute force.
Its Official this “Law” is for Probate proceedings.
Public Acts Public Act 13-3 An Act Concerning Gun Violence Prevention and Children’s Safety.
Administered through the Probate Court
A *conservator is obligated to transfer or surrender firearms in the possession of a conserved person and to prevent the conserved person from having access to firearms owned by others. An ineligible person who fails to transfer or surrender a firearm or ammunition may be guilty of a Class C felony. (Effective October 1, 2013)
Office of the Probate
Court Administrator
2013 Legislative Summary
http://www.ctprobate.gov/Documents/2013 Legislative Summary.pdf
PUBLISHED BY
OFFICE OF THE
PROBATE COURT ADMINISTRATOR
STATE OF CONNECTICUT
The Probate Court system achieved a successful legislative session in 2013. Our two bills, both of which were joint proposals of the Probate Assembly and probate administration, were enacted. In addition, our budget request was fully funded, enabling us to implement much deserved raises for court employees and judges. I thank all of you who worked to develop and advocate for our bills. The material in this packet includes a summary of each bill, together with a copy of the public act. The summaries are not meant to replace the public acts and are offered only to present a general understanding of the legislation. Bracketed text in the public acts indicates deletions, and underlined text indicates additions. Please note the effective dates of each act. We will present continuing education seminars on the new legislation at the court staff training on October 16th and the Judges Institute on October 23rd.
Table of Contents
Public Acts Public Act 13-3 An Act Concerning Gun Violence Prevention and Children’s Safety.
Public Act 13-220 An Act Concerning Revisions to the Gun Violence Prevention and Children’s Safety Act.
Public Act 13-3 (SB 1160) An Act Concerning Gun Violence Prevention and Children’s Safety Effective Date: See individual sections SUMMARY This complex act contains several changes to laws that govern the possession, transfer and sale of firearms and addresses a variety of mental health and school safety issues. Relatively few of the act’s provisions involve the Probate Courts. Those that do are summarized below. Assault weapons and large capacity magazines Sections 23 through 31: The act prospectively prohibits the sale, transfer, and possession of assault weapons and large capacity ammunition magazines. A grandfather provision permits an individual who has legally owned assault weapons or large capacity magazines before May 4, 2013 to retain possession, provided that the owner files the necessary documents with the Department of Emergency Services and Public Protection.
Assault weapons and large capacity magazines may not be sold or transferred to anyone in Connecticut other than a licensed gun dealer. They may, however, be passed to others by bequest or intestate succession. The executor or administrator of the estate must obtain authorization from the Probate Court for the transfer, and the heir or beneficiary must file documentation with the Department of Emergency Services and Public Protection. See Section 23 (large capacity magazines) and Section 26 (assault weapons). (Effective April 4, 2013) Ineligible persons Sections 34 and 44: Federal law prohibits an individual from purchasing or possessing firearms if he or she has been committed to an institution for treatment of a psychiatric disability or if a court has appointed a conservator for the person in an involuntary proceeding. The act codifies the same prohibitions as state law.
In addition, the act prohibits an individual from possessing a firearm for 60 months following an involuntary commitment and for six months following a voluntary admission to a hospital for treatment of a psychiatric disability. A person who is ineligible to possess firearms or ammunition must, within two days of the event that triggered the prohibition, sell or transfer the firearms or ammunition to an eligible person or surrender them to the Department of Emergency Services and Public Protection. A person who surrenders a firearm to the Department retains the ability to sell or transfer it within one year of the surrender.
A *conservator is obligated to transfer or surrender firearms in the possession of a conserved person and to prevent the conserved person from having access to firearms owned by others. An ineligible person who fails to transfer or surrender a firearm or ammunition may be guilty of a Class C felony. (Effective October 1, 2013) Name change Section 21: Existing law requires that the court notify the Department of Emergency Services and Public Protection when an application for a change of name is filed by a person who is required to register as a sexual offender. The commissioner has standing to object to the requested name change. The act amends C.G.S. section 45a-99 to make the same provisions applicable to individuals who are required to register as offenders convicted of committing a crime with a deadly weapon. (Effective January 1, 2014)
Public Act 13-220 (SB 1094) An Act Concerning Revisions to the Gun Violence Prevention and Children’s Safety Act Effective date: See individual sections SUMMARY This act amends P.A. 13-3, discussed above. Again, only a few of the sections pertain to the Probate Courts. Sections 1 and 5 amend sections 23 and 26 of P.A. 13-3 to clarify that the exceptions to the law that allow large capacity magazines and assault weapons to pass to a party by bequest or intestate succession include bequests to a trust or transfers from a trust to a beneficiary under the terms of the trust. (Effective upon passage)
Section 20 amends C.G.S. section 45a-100, which addresses applications to the Probate Courts from individuals seeking relief from federal firearms disability. Section 20 precludes the court from granting such relief if state law prohibits the petitioner from possessing firearms due to an involuntary commitment, within the preceding 60 months or a voluntary commitment within the preceding six months. (Effective October 1, 2013)
Public Acts Public Act 13-3 An Act Concerning Gun Violence Prevention and Children’s Safety.
Administered through the Probate Court
A *conservator is obligated to transfer or surrender firearms in the possession of a conserved person and to prevent the conserved person from having access to firearms owned by others. An ineligible person who fails to transfer or surrender a firearm or ammunition may be guilty of a Class C felony. (Effective October 1, 2013)
Office of the Probate
Court Administrator
2013 Legislative Summary
http://www.ctprobate.gov/Documents/2013 Legislative Summary.pdf
PUBLISHED BY
OFFICE OF THE
PROBATE COURT ADMINISTRATOR
STATE OF CONNECTICUT
The Probate Court system achieved a successful legislative session in 2013. Our two bills, both of which were joint proposals of the Probate Assembly and probate administration, were enacted. In addition, our budget request was fully funded, enabling us to implement much deserved raises for court employees and judges. I thank all of you who worked to develop and advocate for our bills. The material in this packet includes a summary of each bill, together with a copy of the public act. The summaries are not meant to replace the public acts and are offered only to present a general understanding of the legislation. Bracketed text in the public acts indicates deletions, and underlined text indicates additions. Please note the effective dates of each act. We will present continuing education seminars on the new legislation at the court staff training on October 16th and the Judges Institute on October 23rd.
Table of Contents
Public Acts Public Act 13-3 An Act Concerning Gun Violence Prevention and Children’s Safety.
Public Act 13-220 An Act Concerning Revisions to the Gun Violence Prevention and Children’s Safety Act.
Public Act 13-3 (SB 1160) An Act Concerning Gun Violence Prevention and Children’s Safety Effective Date: See individual sections SUMMARY This complex act contains several changes to laws that govern the possession, transfer and sale of firearms and addresses a variety of mental health and school safety issues. Relatively few of the act’s provisions involve the Probate Courts. Those that do are summarized below. Assault weapons and large capacity magazines Sections 23 through 31: The act prospectively prohibits the sale, transfer, and possession of assault weapons and large capacity ammunition magazines. A grandfather provision permits an individual who has legally owned assault weapons or large capacity magazines before May 4, 2013 to retain possession, provided that the owner files the necessary documents with the Department of Emergency Services and Public Protection.
Assault weapons and large capacity magazines may not be sold or transferred to anyone in Connecticut other than a licensed gun dealer. They may, however, be passed to others by bequest or intestate succession. The executor or administrator of the estate must obtain authorization from the Probate Court for the transfer, and the heir or beneficiary must file documentation with the Department of Emergency Services and Public Protection. See Section 23 (large capacity magazines) and Section 26 (assault weapons). (Effective April 4, 2013) Ineligible persons Sections 34 and 44: Federal law prohibits an individual from purchasing or possessing firearms if he or she has been committed to an institution for treatment of a psychiatric disability or if a court has appointed a conservator for the person in an involuntary proceeding. The act codifies the same prohibitions as state law.
In addition, the act prohibits an individual from possessing a firearm for 60 months following an involuntary commitment and for six months following a voluntary admission to a hospital for treatment of a psychiatric disability. A person who is ineligible to possess firearms or ammunition must, within two days of the event that triggered the prohibition, sell or transfer the firearms or ammunition to an eligible person or surrender them to the Department of Emergency Services and Public Protection. A person who surrenders a firearm to the Department retains the ability to sell or transfer it within one year of the surrender.
A *conservator is obligated to transfer or surrender firearms in the possession of a conserved person and to prevent the conserved person from having access to firearms owned by others. An ineligible person who fails to transfer or surrender a firearm or ammunition may be guilty of a Class C felony. (Effective October 1, 2013) Name change Section 21: Existing law requires that the court notify the Department of Emergency Services and Public Protection when an application for a change of name is filed by a person who is required to register as a sexual offender. The commissioner has standing to object to the requested name change. The act amends C.G.S. section 45a-99 to make the same provisions applicable to individuals who are required to register as offenders convicted of committing a crime with a deadly weapon. (Effective January 1, 2014)
Public Act 13-220 (SB 1094) An Act Concerning Revisions to the Gun Violence Prevention and Children’s Safety Act Effective date: See individual sections SUMMARY This act amends P.A. 13-3, discussed above. Again, only a few of the sections pertain to the Probate Courts. Sections 1 and 5 amend sections 23 and 26 of P.A. 13-3 to clarify that the exceptions to the law that allow large capacity magazines and assault weapons to pass to a party by bequest or intestate succession include bequests to a trust or transfers from a trust to a beneficiary under the terms of the trust. (Effective upon passage)
Section 20 amends C.G.S. section 45a-100, which addresses applications to the Probate Courts from individuals seeking relief from federal firearms disability. Section 20 precludes the court from granting such relief if state law prohibits the petitioner from possessing firearms due to an involuntary commitment, within the preceding 60 months or a voluntary commitment within the preceding six months. (Effective October 1, 2013)
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