Congress to clash over Trump's war powers

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The f*cking Democrats are sounding like Ron Paul...

Democrats will attempt to curb President Trump’s war powers after a U.S. drone strike killed a senior Iranian military leader in what lawmakers are calling a major escalation that could lead to war.

Senate Democrats are mobilizing behind a resolution that would force Trump to withdraw American troops from hostilities against Iran unless Congress declares war or passes a resolution authorizing military force.

“I will do everything I can to assert our authority. We do not need this president either bumbling or impulsively getting us into a major war,” Senate Democratic Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) said Sunday on ABC’s “This Week with George Stephanopoulos.”

“We need Congress to be a check on this president,” he said.

The drone strike that killed Maj. Gen. Qassem Soleimani and several Iran-backed militia leaders drew a swift and angry rebuke from Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who vowed “forceful revenge.”

Former NATO Supreme Allied Commander Admiral James Stavridis warned Sunday that Iran could target U.S. Navy ships in the Persian Gulf as well as senior U.S. military and diplomatic officials in Europe, whom he described as “soft targets.”

Kataib Hezbollah, the militant group that attacked a U.S. base in Kirkuk a week ago, killing a contractor, have said they will attack U.S. forces in the region in the coming days.

The Pentagon announced Friday that it would send an additional 3,000 troops to the Middle East.

Trump warned Saturday that if Iran strikes any Americans or Americans assets, U.S. forces would retaliate immediately.

“We have targeted 52 Iranian sites (representing the 52 American hostages taken by Iran many years ago),” he tweeted.

Democrats in both chambers warn that the United States and Iran may be on a path to a larger military clash, something Republicans worried about last year in the aftermath of other incidents like Iran’s downing of a U.S. surveillance drone in June.

House Democrats can essentially force a vote in the Senate because the war-powers resolution is privileged, but they’re unlikely to get the two-thirds majority needed in both chambers to overcome an expected presidential veto if the measure makes it to Trump’s desk.

Republicans, meanwhile, have rallied around the president for ordering the drone strike in Baghdad that killed Soleimani. Any resolution to curb Trump’s power to attack Iran is likely to receive less GOP support than a resolution Congress passed last year to force the administration to end U.S. military support for the civil war in Yemen.

Trump vetoed that measure, and a Senate vote to override it fell well short of 67 votes, mustering only 53.

Democrats, however, argue that this time around Trump has acted rashly in a way that will destabilize the Middle East. They now hope to drive a wedge between the president and Republican lawmakers leery of the president’s foreign policy decisions.

Even if Trump is certain to veto a war-powers resolution, Democrats would view a bipartisan vote to limit the president’s military authority as an important victory in an election year.

“The Senate must not let this president march into another war in the Middle East without authorization from Congress,” said Senate Democratic Whip Dick Durbin (Ill.), who along with Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.) has co-sponsored the resolution directing Trump to pull U.S. troops back from Iran-related hostilities.

“The Constitution is clear — only the Congress can declare war,” Durbin said.

Democratic senators are discussing when to force a vote on the resolution and what other tools are at their disposal.

“People are exploring the different options right now,” said Sen. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.), who warned in a Senate floor speech that Trump’s action would reduce U.S. influence in Iraq, a majority Shia country that borders Iran, which is also majority Shia.

Aside from debating and voting on a war powers resolution, Democrats will press the administration on what legal rationale it used to justify the strike and what strategy it has in place to guard against Iranian reprisals.

Trump said Friday that he ordered the mission against Soleimani “to stop a war.”

Seven Senate Republicans voted with Democrats in March to require Trump to withdraw troops in or affecting Yemen within 30 days: Sens. Susan Collins (Maine), Steve Daines (Mont.), Mike Lee (Utah), Lisa Murkowski (Alaska), Jerry Moran (Kan.), Rand Paul (Ky.) and Todd Young (Ind.).

So far no GOP senator has criticized Trump’s action against Iran, although Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah), a frequent critic of the president, especially in foreign policy-related areas, said he wants the administration to offer a more detailed explanation of its strategy.

“It’s imperative that the US & our allies articulate & pursue a coherent strategy for protecting our security interests in the region. I will be pressing the Administration for additional details in the days ahead,” Romney tweeted.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said on the Senate floor Friday that he is working to set up a classified briefing on the strike this next week with all senators.

At the same time, McConnell, who is up for reelection and counting on support from Trump to mobilize the GOP base, applauded Trump’s decision.

“The architect and chief engineer for the world’s most active state sponsor of terrorism has been removed from the battlefield at the hand of the United States military,” he said.

McConnell urged colleagues to review the facts closely before criticizing the president.

“Although I anticipate and welcome a debate about America’s interests and foreign policy in the Middle East, I recommend that all senators wait to review the facts and hear from the administration before passing much public judgment on this operation and its potential consequences,” he said.

Other Republicans, such as Sens. Ben Sasse (Neb.), Ted Cruz (Texas) and Lindsey Graham (S.C.) also hailed Trump’s decision.

Trump, following in the footsteps of his two predecessors, has used a 2001 authorization of military force against al Qaeda and its allies to justify military actions around the Middle East and Africa.

Democrats argue that authority cannot possibly be used to justify military action against Iran, which is fighting al Qaeda’s successor, ISIS.

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/476732-congress-to-clash-over-trumps-war-powers
 
If Democrats want to impeach Trump now this is a prefect reason why and without the Russiagate Nonsense Russians arent very happy about the killing of this general. A General which Russians worked with in Syria!
 
The democrats would just fund proxy wars or false flag us into a war or we would have martial law because the government can't fund their unconstitutional government programs without the dollar being backed by oil. They are just politicizing this to help them get re elected. Democrat politicians with hundreds of millions in net worth aren't going to change foreign policy. If they cared so much about the poor they would donate their millions.
 
The democrats would just fund proxy wars or false flag us into a war or we would have martial law because the government can't fund their unconstitutional government programs without the dollar being backed by oil. They are just politicizing this to help them get re elected. Democrat politicians with hundreds of millions in net worth aren't going to change foreign policy. If they cared so much about the poor they would donate their millions.

The democrats would just fund proxy wars or false flag us into a war or we would have martial law because the government
The democrats are more rational now then Trump boy he now owns this proxy war agaisnt Iran and you know what? he started this mess now he and republicans own it, i am not sure what will happen after Trump's regime on 2024 but what Trump is doing is ruining the chances for future GOP hopefuls.
 
The democrats are more rational now then Trump boy he now owns this proxy war agaisnt Iran and you know what? he started this mess now he and republicans own it, i am not sure what will happen after Trump's regime on 2024 but what Trump is doing is ruining the chances for future GOP hopefuls.

The democrats are more rational now? Than why do democrats in congress fund the stuff we can't afford? Which democrats advocated for changing the monetary policy which is directly related to foreign policy?? Is that Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren??
 
The democrats just passed a 1.4 trillion dollar plan to fund the government but they are rational now.
 
The democrats are more rational now then Trump boy he now owns this proxy war agaisnt Iran and you know what? he started this mess now he and republicans own it, i am not sure what will happen after Trump's regime on 2024 but what Trump is doing is ruining the chances for future GOP hopefuls.

Obama used similar anger in 2007 over Iraq war to ride to victory in both the Dem primary (he hit Hillary hard for her support of the Iraq war) and then the White House. But of course, he did nothing to bring home the troops. Trump said he would as well and now the Dems are making political capital out of this mess and Donald looks stupid.
 
Obama used similar anger in 2007 over Iraq war to ride to victory in both the Dem primary (he hit Hillary hard for her support of the Iraq war) and then the White House. But of course, he did nothing to bring home the troops. Trump said he would as well and now the Dems are making political capital out of this mess and Donald looks stupid.

I agree with what you said about democrats not bringing troops home. Democrats and GOP are both part of the same cabal. But Trump is making himself like a fool in this mess which he alone started.

This mess in Iraq could end Trump's chances of re election.
 
The democrats are more rational now? Than why do democrats in congress fund the stuff we can't afford? Which democrats advocated for changing the monetary policy which is directly related to foreign policy?? Is that Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren??

None of those, there are two democrats which i like that you arent even mentioning i know they probably wont get a shot to win but they are rational. You do know Trump just shut himself in the foot with this right? not to mention how Trump or anyone in his admin could explain.

How do you prevent a war from or by killing an Iranian general who was visiting Iraq for peace talks? how does that prevent a war!? with that logic then i guess for WW1 it would be.



Serbian black hand did the assassination to prevent a war?
 
None of those, there are two democrats which i like that you arent even mentioning i know they probably wont get a shot to win but they are rational. You do know Trump just shut himself in the foot with this right? not to mention how Trump or anyone in his admin could explain.

How do you prevent a war from or by killing an Iranian general who was visiting Iraq for peace talks? how does that prevent a war!? with that logic then i guess for WW1 it would be.



Serbian black hand did the assassination to prevent a war?

Which democrats have advocated for reduced spending and cutting unfunded liabilities and monetary policy changes? Without doing that than their platform is insolvent and their policies are predicated on our monetary system being backed by oil. You can't tax rich people enough to pay for unfunded liabilities.
 
The House will vote on a resolution limiting President Trump’s military actions toward Iran following his decision to launch a drone strike that killed a top Iranian commander, Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Sunday.

Pelosi told Democratic members in a letter that the House will introduce a vote on a “War Powers Resolution” mandating that the administration's military hostilities with regard to Iran would cease within 30 days if no further congressional action is taken.

The resolution will be led by Rep. Elissa Slotkin (D-Mich.), a former CIA and Department of Defense analyst specializing in Shia militias.

Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.) has introduced a similar legislation in the Senate.

Trump last week ordered the attack that killed Gen. Qassem Soleimani. Top members of Congress, including Pelosi, said they were not briefed until after the strike.

Pelosi in the new letter called the administration’s decision a “provocative and disproportionate military airstrike” that she said endangered U.S. service members and diplomats.

“As Members of Congress, our first responsibility is to keep the American people safe,” Pelosi wrote. “For this reason, we are concerned that the Administration took this action without the consultation of Congress and without respect for Congress’s war powers granted to it by the Constitution.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/...solution-limiting-trumps-actions-against-iran
 
If Democrats want to impeach Trump now this is a prefect reason why and without the Russiagate Nonsense Russians arent very happy about the killing of this general. A General which Russians worked with in Syria!

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to AngryCanadian again.

True. But they won't do that because they actually support this kind of thing. No concern about war powers when Obama bombed Libya and destabilized Syria.
 
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to AngryCanadian again.

True. But they won't do that because they actually support this kind of thing. No concern about war powers when Obama bombed Libya and destabilized Syria.

We know they're hypocrites but a vote in Congress will be very welcome.
 
Obama used similar anger in 2007 over Iraq war to ride to victory in both the Dem primary (he hit Hillary hard for her support of the Iraq war) and then the White House. But of course, he did nothing to bring home the troops. Trump said he would as well and now the Dems are making political capital out of this mess and Donald looks stupid.

Worse. Obama started two wars on his own. (Libya and Syria). It's one thing to not undo someone else's mess. It's another thing to create your own. And yes, Trump has now created his own mess.
 
Worse. Obama started two wars on his own. (Libya and Syria). It's one thing to not undo someone else's mess. It's another thing to create your own. And yes, Trump has now created his own mess.

I know but i'm pointing out that the hypocrites are just making political capital out of it. Bernie and the other Dems now sound like Ron Paul. Ofcourse they're not sincere but they know there's votes to be had and Obama did the exact same thing and beat Hillary and McCain.
 
I know but i'm pointing out that the hypocrites are just making political capital out of it. Bernie and the other Dems now sound like Ron Paul. Ofcourse they're not sincere but they know there's votes to be had and Obama did the exact same thing and beat Hillary and McCain.

Sanders is not Obama. LOL.
 
Hi antiwar rhetoric will propel him to victory. Just watch. [MENTION=27246]oyarde[/MENTION] was right.

He was anti war vs Clinton and didn't win the majority of contests. Obama got the me too vote. Obama got the voters Kanye West was talking to when he said GWB doesn't care about black people. The democrats don't have an Obama this year.
 
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