Confirming Call to Action: This is Not a Drill

[jblosser]

Making sure this interview is in the sticky; Ron has called Fox out and says they are "scared of me".

http://www.boston.com/news/local/politics/primarysource/2007/12/paul_fox_news_i.html

"They are scared of me and don't want my message to get out, but it will," Paul said in an interview at a diner here. "They are propagandists for this war and I challenge them on the notion that they are conservative."

I heard from the family right after this interview and they said it was pretty awesome to see him go. The campaign is making plans for an alternate rally. Buy your plane tickets now! We need to make the Philly event look tiny in comparison. We need NH to hear us whether the news covers us or not.

 

[jblosser]

On priorities... I don't see why we even need to argue about it. Obviously make sure your local delegate situation and canvassing is covered first, then make sure Iowa is covered, then make sure NH is covered. This is part of the last. The forum is days before the primary, so take a few off work and show up to attend the rally and then help canvass NH so we WIN.

Fox no doubt planned this in the hopes it would work to defeat us, but we are smarter than them, aren't we? They just motivated the revolution like no other to actually go to NH days before the primary! Instead of having Ron in their little event so they could give him 5 seconds to talk like usual.

 

[Molly1]

Does anyone know what town the alternate Ron Paul rally will be in?

Can we get the details on this? Will it also be held at Goffstown?

Also, details please on how we get into the debates the day before.

 

[DrJimiJon]

Find All Fox Affiliates!!

A list of all local Fox Affiliaties!!

http://www.fox.com/links/affiliates.htm


And Digg it too!!

http://digg.com/political_opinion/List_of_All_Local_Fox_Affiliates

 

[jblosser]

Does anyone know what town the alternate Ron Paul rally will be in?

Can we get the details on this? Will it also be held at Goffstown?

Also, details please on how we get into the debates the day before.

The details don't exist yet. I heard from the family again about 30 minutes ago while they were at an airport literally on the way back from NH to TX. The campaign is trying to figure out what exactly will happen.

 

[eydaimon]

Can someone please explain to me how this is not the NH GOP's fault? How can they allow one of their candidates not to be represented on the show?

 

[Castrensis]

Can someone please explain to me how this is not the NH GOP's fault? How can they allow one of their candidates not to be represented on the show?

I read somewhere that they signed a contract with FNC a year ago stipulating that FNC would be able to name the candidates invited to the forum.

Anyone have a link for this information?

 

[NoVALady]

We need to all start taking action RIGHT NOW to get Ron Paul into this forum!

It's time we start TAKING ACTION NOW!

Here is a sample letter.

Dear Fox News,

It has came to my attention that you have decided to exclude Ron Paul from your "forum" of Republican candidates to be broadcast on January 6, 2007. This is completely unacceptable and demonstrates that you are actively trying to control the outcome of this election. By excluding a candidate with a constantly growing support base, that has almost certainly raised more money than any other candidate this quarter, has had tens of thousands of new contributors in the past month, and on Dec. 16th broke the one day fund raising record demonstrates that you have an agenda to marginalize anyone who dares challenge the authority of the neo-conservatives who have taken over the Republican Party.

By excluding Ron Paul from this debate it is now crystal clear that the message of reducing the size of government, getting it out of our lives, and restoring our rights and freedoms is one that you do not want people to hear! However, this is the message that a LARGE segment of the AMERICAN PEOPLE deeply desire to hear! This has been proven by Ron Paul's extraordinary support base of people who care about freedom, respect the constitution, and desire for politicians to end wars instead of starting them. Countless citizens across the USA are extremely angry about the soaring national debt, the endless printing of money that leads to inflation, and the constant erosion of our freedoms and privacy. These true patriots have demonstrated their support of Ron Paul with their hard earned dollars. It is truly revolting and sickening that the network that claims to be "Fair and Balanced" has disenfranchised these individuals from having their preferred candidate participate in this forum!

The supporters of Ron Paul are peaceful, non-violent, and law abiding. They desire to live peacefully with their fellow man and respect the rights of others. However, when they see injustice occurring (such as a corporation or network attempting to control the outcome of an election) they will peacefully use their first amendment right to speak up boldly and loudly. I urge you to please allow Ron Paul to participate in this upcoming forum of Republican candidates. There is zero reason to exclude him and every reason to include him! He has a growing campaign, supporters across the nation, and has a huge chest of funds to support his campaign! However, if you do not include him in this upcoming forum you can expect the supporters of Ron Paul to continue speaking up peacefully, boldly, and loudly about your unfair decision. This message will only be one of tens of thousands of additional messages from concerned citizens across the nation.

We know what your network is up to by excluding Ron Paul. Until you include him in this forum we will use our first amendment rights to proclaim far and wide (in a peaceful, non-violent, and completely law abiding manner)...

"WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!"

Sincerely,
(Insert name here.)

Very good letter. Please correct the opening sentence as follows: "It has come to my attention..." Thank you!

 

[faisal]

Dear Fox News,

It has came to my attention that you have decided to exclude Ron Paul from your "forum" of Republican candidates to be broadcast on January 6, 2007. This is completely unacceptable and demonstrates that you are actively trying to control the outcome of this election. By excluding a candidate with a constantly growing support base, that has almost certainly raised more money than any other candidate this quarter, has had tens of thousands of new contributors in the past month, and on Dec. 16th broke the one day fund raising record demonstrates that you have an agenda to marginalize anyone who dares challenge the authority of the neo-conservatives who have taken over the Republican Party.

By excluding Ron Paul from this debate it is now crystal clear that the message of reducing the size of government, getting it out of our lives, and restoring our rights and freedoms is one that you do not want people to hear! However, this is the message that a LARGE segment of the AMERICAN PEOPLE deeply desire to hear! This has been proven by Ron Paul's extraordinary support base of people who care about freedom, respect the constitution, and desire for politicians to end wars instead of starting them. Countless citizens across the USA are extremely angry about the soaring national debt, the endless printing of money that leads to inflation, and the constant erosion of our freedoms and privacy. These true patriots have demonstrated their support of Ron Paul with their hard earned dollars. It is truly revolting and sickening that the network that claims to be "Fair and Balanced" has disenfranchised these individuals from having their preferred candidate participate in this forum!

The supporters of Ron Paul are peaceful, non-violent, and law abiding. They desire to live peacefully with their fellow man and respect the rights of others. However, when they see injustice occurring (such as a corporation or network attempting to control the outcome of an election) they will peacefully use their first amendment right to speak up boldly and loudly. I urge you to please allow Ron Paul to participate in this upcoming forum of Republican candidates. There is zero reason to exclude him and every reason to include him! He has a growing campaign, supporters across the nation, and has a huge chest of funds to support his campaign! However, if you do not include him in this upcoming forum you can expect the supporters of Ron Paul to continue speaking up peacefully, boldly, and loudly about your unfair decision. This message will only be one of tens of thousands of additional messages from concerned citizens across the nation.

We know what your network is up to by excluding Ron Paul. Until you include him in this forum we will use our first amendment rights to proclaim far and wide (in a peaceful, non-violent, and completely law abiding manner)...

"WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!"

Sincerely,
(Insert name here.)

Maybe you should also include how Ron Paul is doing better than some of the candidates that did get invited, which makes Ron Paul's exclusion even more angering!

 

[Elantara]

Go to www.DownsizeDC.org and send your petition letter to Chris Wallace at FOX. And good luck!

 

[industria]

Is this disinfo... or was the previous reporting disinfo?

Ron Paul NOT excluded from Fox debate
by William Westmiller (Libertarian)
http://www.nolanchart.com/article797.html

Some sloppy reporting, instant web indignation, and holiday vacations produced a surge of hysteria that might have been avoided.

One of the hazards of instant mass communication is that incorrect stories can get distributed immediately. A particular hazard during holiday vacations.

There is NO NH DEBATE on January 6th. Ron Paul was NOT EXCLUDED. That event was canceled three weeks ago.

Ron WILL participate in the January 5th ABC/WMUR GOP debate in New Hampshire.

So, what happened?

Months ago, NH GOP chairman Fergus Cullen had been in touch with FoxNews about a possible forum on January 6th. He had even contacted all the GOP candidates to see whether they were available. However, plans for the ABC debate were finalized with all candidates early in December and Cullen "threw in the towel." See "OUTFOXED" in the NH Union Leader of December 16th.

At that time, Cullen had not received a response from Ron Paul, who had committed to a conflicting luncheon at the Liberty Forum at the same time.

Skip ahead to December 27th, when the Union Leader reported that all candidates had agreed to the ABC/WMUR debate and reporter GARRY RAYNO added a confusing paragraph about Giuliani finally agreeing to the (canceled) January 6th forum, which had already been converted into a simple state GOP brunch.

Due to the timing of this article, there was no way to confirm who will or won't attend the brunch, but it is not a broadcast debate and has nothing to do with FoxNews. Nevertheless, a blog in Washington picked up the story, scrambled it and their "BHDC Staff" reported a list of the candidates who would be attending, which did not include Ron Paul (he hadn't officially confirmed, due to the conflict).

That story was picked up by the AP Newswire, which added some information that it had from a month earlier about the format being discussed.

Finally, the AP article was picked up by Lew Rockwell and passed along to DailyPaul.com, with all the errors intact. Of course, a firestorm ensued on all the Ron Paul nets before the information could be verified. Immediately, thousands of messages went to FoxNews and the NH GOP protesting the exclusion.

Unfortunately, the Ron Paul campaign didn't sort out the facts before sending out a news release blasting Fox for their "outrageous" conduct, even if they did note that the information had not been confirmed. From there, the report spread into dozens of blogs and news commentaries.

An unfortunate false alarm. Lesson: Fast news is sometimes "bad" news. Look before you leap.

 

[faisal]

Everyone is getting confused from the blog! AHHH! Please look at the thread that says "Ron Paul IS Excluded"

 

[jblosser]

Is this disinfo... or was the previous reporting disinfo?

Well, we have the official campaign, the Paul family, the NH GOP, and NH meetup people talking about Ron being excluded.

Meanwhile he's citing no 1st party sources, but his own theories based on what he thinks he pieced together from some articles. And confuses whether we're talking about a cancelled debate or the Forum his own "sources" do confirm is happening and doesn't include Ron Paul.

We report, you decide.

 

[ChooseLiberty]

Is the Fox "forum" really a brunch? And while Dr. Paul is speaking at an entirely different event - the Liberty Forum.


http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071230/NEWS08/527052503/-1/news

SUNDAY, Jan. 6

• The New Hampshire Republican Party hosts "First in the Nation Presidential Brunch" at Hampshire Hills Sports & Fitness Club, Milford. 11 a.m. Several candidates are expected to attend. Tickets are $125. For tickets or more information, call 225-9341.

• U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, speaks at closing ceremony of the 2008 New Hampshire Liberty Forum at the Crowne Plaza, Nashua. Noon. For more information, visit www.freestateproject.org/libertyforum.

 

[dustup]

There's dozens of threads on this already but some are still (wisely) looking for an official "release the hounds" from the campaign. As one of the area organizers who can contact "certain people" directly, I'll say you're probably not going to get it, because the campaign doesn't tell the grassroots what to do. But it's a fact that the exclusion has been confirmed at the highest levels, and it's time for the grassroots to do what we do best: take charge and be the change we want to see in the world.


The best target if you want to write letters or emails or send phone calls and faxes is probably Fox, their local affiliates, and their advertisers. Extensive address compilations are available already in other threads on this forum.


DO NOT CONTACT THE NH GOP. They are reportedly trying to help us out on this, but our calls have already taken their phones offline so they can't do anything. THIS IS NOT USEFUL. Fox is the current problem, not the NH GOP.


The campaign will continue to try to resolve this with Fox and if all else fails will most likely schedule an alternate event. PLAN NOW TO ATTEND. The MSM will go out of their way to ignore us no matter what, and we need to make sure we are seen whether they point their cameras at us or not so that they don't succeed in keeping the NH voters from hearing the liberty message. We need to be visible from space and audible from Boston. It's on a Sunday so people should be able to do it without losing valuable local canvassing time on Saturday.


More details coming as they are released to us...

I can't forgive the New Hampshire GOP! They could have refused FOX's ultimatum and supported ALL their Republican candidates including Ron Paul.....The NH GOP sacrificed Ron Paul for TV coverage, if they Truly wish to show their support all they have to do is publicly denounce FOX's plan!
The idea that the NH GOP's hands are tied doesn't fly with me! I've been a Republican for 30+years and have banged my head with too many neocon bigots in the GOP local, state and national orgs that causes me to believe they have an exclusion agenda when it comes to Ron Paul. I didn't, haven't nor will I contact them because they will just ignore anyone that doesn't agree with their neoconish agenda!

 

[ChooseLiberty]

So far - no further credible source confirmation that the Faux "forum" even exists.

The real New Hampshire DEBATE is scheduled on ABC and Dr. Paul will be attending.

Lots of recently registered new posters seem to be jumping in on this with unconfirmed "inside information".

Very strange.

 

[jblosser]

Just got through to the Paul family member who I was talking to all weekend who was with them when they were trying to sort this out. He was sitting by Ron while I talked to him. He confirms (again) that they spoke directly to the NH GOP before issuing that press release, and the NH GOP confirmed there was an event scheduled on the 6th that Fox was intending to carry and that 5 invitations went out to candidates, but Ron Paul was excluded.

He's now trying to call those people to get place/time/etc. information and I'll post that if he gets it.

He also reiterates that THEY NEED MORE PEOPLE IN NH REGARDLESS, we need more boots on the ground there if we want to win. If you're waiting to buy a plane ticket on this info, buy the ticket and canvas there regardless.

 

[phoenixrising]

Just got through to the Paul family member who I was talking to all weekend who was with them when they were trying to sort this out. He was sitting by Ron while I talked to him. He confirms (again) that they spoke directly to the NH GOP before issuing that press release, and the NH GOP confirmed there was an event scheduled on the 6th that Fox was intending to carry and that 5 invitations went out to candidates, but Ron Paul was excluded.

He's now trying to call those people to get place/time/etc. information and I'll post that if he gets it.

He also reiterates that THEY NEED MORE PEOPLE IN NH REGARDLESS, we need more boots on the ground there if we want to win. If you're waiting to buy a plane ticket on this info, buy the ticket and canvas there regardless.

did they confirm this part to be factual??

-------
The 2008 New Hampshire Liberty Forum
Moving Liberty Forward

Thursday January 3 to Sunday January 6, 2008 in Nashua, New Hampshire



Watch scenes from the 2007 Liberty Forum
Speakers

Friday keynote speaker
Bernard von NotHaus, currency architect and creator of the Liberty Dollar, will speak at Friday's dinner.

Saturday keynote speaker
United States Senator John Sununu will speak at Saturday's dinner. Sometimes called "America's most Libertarian Senator", Mr. Sununu scores highly on the Republican Liberty Caucus Index.

Sunday closing ceremony speaker
United States Congressman and Presidential candidate Ron Paul will speak at Sunday's closing ceremony.

 

[fedup100]

You know what....whether it was or wasn't will go down as something that cannot be proven for sure, much like 911.

We will know the truth by January the 7 or 8th 08, but sadly it will be to late at that time to help our man .

 

[jblosser]

Alright the family chased stuff down for us and called me back. Carol Paul was in the room and helping to clarify what they know.

They talked to Jesse Benton who confirms that Jared Chicoine, the official campaign's NH coordinator, spoke to the NH GOP as recently as last evening and the word the official campaign is still getting from the NH GOP is that:

1) There is a NH forum on the 6th
2) Fox controls who is going to be invited
3) Other candidates have been invited, but Ron Paul has not been and will not be

There are still reportedly "games being played" and details may not all be final and this is the reason we don't have this thing listed anywhere concretely. But our campaign IS getting their info verified before they announce it, and they are definitely being told by the NH GOP that this is the situation. People suspect Fox is playing a game here to make the campaign look bad but so far think the NH GOP is helping us and not hurting us.


MOVING ON, the campaign is not currently planning any kind of counter rally, though they are working on something which I will call "bigger" but can't talk about yet. However, people should not plan to fly to NH just to attend a counter rally; Jesse's phrase was "spend your money smarter ways". That having been said they confirm they definitely need more boots on the ground in NH and if you have the time and money to get there and help campaign, DO IT.