Common Core teaching thug life

[better-dead-than-fed]

He's being ridiculous.

No, LibertyEagle, you are just being old-school conservative.

Of course, it's horrible. Common Core needs to be thrown out, just like No Child Left Behind, Outcome-based education, School-to-Work, Goals 2000, and all the rest of the UN-proposed government school brainwashing programs.

Yes, all government-regulation of education is horrible and should be thrown out; but no, music about pimps and hoes is not horrible, and only bad people think it is.

 

[RockEnds]

So many reasons, I don't know where to begin. I would explain to them that when they grow up they will need to get jobs, and that if they are willing to rap about drugs, pimps, and hoes, then indignant cultural conservatives will give them lots of attention for free, thereby promoting their product and making them rich. It's a way to own cultural conservatives and have them work for you, but it's not slavery because the cultural conservatives want to be owned this way.

I'd also explain that some 4th graders across town are being sheltered by their culturally conservative parents for the time being, and as a result, the sheltered 4th graders will make great customers for this kind of music when they grow old enough to decide which music they want to pay money for.

I know this may come as a shock to you, but not everyone's child grows to be a wannabe street punk.

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

Christmas 2008,I was playing Trivial Pursuit with my niece who was a fourth grade teacher at the time.

A question came up about Tupac Shakur and east coast-west coast rappers.I guessed he was east coast because all I knew about him was that his parents were east coast terrorists and my niece corrected me and gave me chapter and verse about the Crips-Bloods~east coast-west coast rapper wars.

It was part of the fourth grade curriculum she taught,so this is at least 5 years old,in VA, anyway.

You don't know nothin about Tupac. His parents were Black Panthers. His aunt was:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assata_Shakur

"Assata Shakur was involved in a shootout on the New Jersey Turnpike, during which [a] New Jersey State Trooper... [was] killed...."

They claim that I'm violent, just cause I refuse to be silent
These hypocrites are having fits, cause I'm not buying it
Defying it, envious because I will rebel against
Any oppressor, and this is known as self defense
I show no mercy, they claim that I'm the lunatic
But when the shit gets thick, I'm the one you go and get
Don't look confused, the truth is so plain to see
Cause I'm the nigga that you sell-outs are ashamed to be
In every Jeep and every car, brothers stomp this
I'm never ignorant, getting goals accomplished
The underground railroad on an uprise
This time the truth's gettin told, heard enough lies
I told em fight back, attack on society
If this is violence, then violent's what I gotta be
If you investigate you'll find out where it's comin from
Look through our history, America's the violent one
Unlock my brain, break the chains of your misery
It's time for payback for evil shit you did to me
They call me militant, racist cause I will resist
You wanna censor somethin, motherfucker censor this.
My words are weapons, and I'm steppin to the silent
Wakin up the masses, but you, claim that I'm violent

The cops can't stand me, but they can't touch me
Call me a dope man, cause I rock dope beats
Jacked by the police, didn't have my ID
I said, "Excuse me, why you trying to rob me?"
He had the nerve to say I had a curfew
"Get out the car... or I'll hurt you."
So here I go, I better make my mind up
Pick my nine up, or hit the line-up
I chose B, stepped into the streets
The first cop grabbed me, the other ripped my seat
They grabbed my homie and they threw him to the concrete
("What you doin man?") They tried to frame me
They tried to say I had some dope in the back seat
But I'm a rap fiend, not a crack fiend
My homie panicked, he tried to run
I heard a bullet fire from the cop's gun
My homie dropped so, I hit the cop
I kept swingin, yo, I couldn't stop
Before I knew it, I was beatin the cop senseless
The other cop dropped his gun, he was defenseless
Now I'm against this cop who was racist
Given him a taste, of trading places
And all this, cause this peckerwood was tryin this
Frame up, but I came up
Now they claimin that I'm violent

As I was beatin on the cop, I heard a gun click
Then the gun shot, but I wasn't hit
I turned around it was my homie with the gun in hand
He shot the cop, now he's a dead man
I said, come on, it's time for us to get away
They called for backup, and they'll be on their way
Jumped in the car, and tried to get away quick
The car wouldn't start, we in deep shit
So we jumped out (C'mon let's take the cop's car)
We drove a little ways thinkin that we got far
But I looked up, and all I saw was blue lights
If I die tonight, I'm dying in a gunfight
I grabbed the AK, my homie took the 12 gauge
Load em up quick, it's time for us to spray
We'll shoot em up with they own fuckin weapons
And when we through sprayin, then we steppin

This is a lesson, to the rednecks and crooked cops
You fuck with real niggas, get your fuckin ass dropped
So here we go, the police against us
Dark as dusk, waitin for the guns to bust
What's next, I don't know and I don't care
One things for sure, tomorrow I won't be here
But if I go, I'm takin all these punks with me
Pass me a clip, G, now come and get me

You wanna sweat me, never get me to be silent
Giving them a reason, to claim that I'm violent

 

[LibertyEagle]

You have to start at the community level and a per school effort. Can be done. The problem is that you need leaders in the community who understand education in it's current state (meaning curriculum) and where it's headed...which requires an understanding of infrastructure.

Teachers themselves (at least in my experience) hate it.But at the same time the unfortunate reality is that most parents really are clueless and so the teachers don't get relevant/useful support from these parents in dealing with it.

I think it takes a couple of very persistent people who are willing to educate themselves about this program in detail, gather the documentation and fight it all the way up the line. My Mother, along with another lady, got outcomes-based education thrown out of their state. So, I KNOW that it can be done.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Yes, all government-regulation of education is horrible and should be thrown out; but no, music about pimps and hoes is not horrible, and only bad people think it is.

I don't care what music you like. Whatever floats your boat. The issue is that "pimps and hoes" are not exactly suitable curriculum for young children. Our kids are graduating without knowing how to read, write and do arithmetic. I hardly think it is old school to believe that our children should focus on the basics instead of gangster rap.

 

[mad cow]

You don't know nothin about Tupac. His parents were Black Panthers. His aunt was:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assata_Shakur

"Assata Shakur was involved in a shootout on the New Jersey Turnpike, during which [a] New Jersey State Trooper... [was] killed...."

Hey,one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

The issue is that "pimps and hoes" are not exactly suitable curriculum for young children.

Maybe not in your house or your church, but keep your morals off of me unless you want problems.

Our kids are graduating without knowing how to read, write and do arithmetic. I hardly think it is old school to believe that our children should focus on the basics instead of gangster rap.

It sounds like you have lost track of which kids belong to you.

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

Hey,one man's alleged terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

She claims she was denied a fair trial, and I have to give her the benefit of the doubt, having seen firsthand how the government administers those things. And even if she was guilty, you are exactly right about freedom fighters.

 

[Natural Citizen]

I think it takes a couple of very persistent people who are willing to educate themselves about this program in detail, gather the documentation and fight it all the way up the line. My Mother, along with another lady, got outcomes-based education thrown out of their state. So, I KNOW that it can be done.

By the time I had finished typing a response the site logged me out. I suppose it was a rather long response. This really annoys me when this happens.

But I agree with you. I'm not typing why I agree with you all over again though. I started a thread elsewhere that should suffice. Down the road, that is. Of course, you being a paleo may not accept what I intend to eventually add there but judging by your other post I'll accept that as diverse synergy should opposing visions come up.

 

[mad cow]

Meanwhile,more rappers die at the hands of other rappers,rather than at the hands of cops or "rednecks and peckerwoods"to quote Tupac.

But they're all heroes to be emulated according to the Department of Education.

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

Meanwhile,more rappers die at the hands of other rappers,rather than at the hands of cops or "rednecks and peckerwoods"to quote Tupac.

So now all black people are rappers, and all rappers are black people, and you have left reality altogether?

But they're all heroes to be emulated according to the Department of Education.

According to your unreasonably creative interpretation of the original post. Most of the article in the original post is about one gun-hating woman's crusade against references to "machine guns".

 

[Natural Citizen]

BDTF...I don't know if you know it but you seem to be the shining example of useful idiot for the very people who have been delegated to apply this infrastructure. Take it from someone who has sat in the same room with them many, many times. See, you're down on the bottom end of the totem pole trying to place others who may not understand the issue in scope into a position of useful idiot with things that are only relative to the distance of your own sight/perception/immediate goals in all of this. I promise you that you are so far out of your league that it's laughable. But by all means...keep it up.

 

[mad cow]

So now all black people are rappers, and all rappers are black people, and you have left reality altogether.

Where did I say all black people are rappers.I said more rappers are killed by other rappers than by cops.rednecks or peckerwoods.

Dispute that.



According to your unreasonably creative interpretation of the original post. Most of the article in the original post is about one gun-hating woman's crusade against references to "machine guns".

My complaint is with the Department of Education glorifying rappers in the fourth grade.

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

BDTF...I don't know if you know it but you seem to be the shining example of useful idiot for the very people who have been delegated to apply this infrastructure. Take it from someone who has sat in the same room with them many, many times. See, you're down on the bottom end of the totem pole trying to place others who may not understand the issue in scope into a position of useful idiot with things that are only relative to the distance of your own sight/perception/immediate goals in all of this. I promise you that you are so far out of your league that it's laughable. But by all means...keep it up.

Yes, you do have wood for me; as you've already declared about 100 times. Keep crying it out?

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

My complaint is with the Department of Education glorifying rappers in the fourth grade.

I want the Department of Education abolished as much as you do. As for "rappers", cultural conservatives flipped out in the 50's when Elvis Presley moved his hips around. Just another chapter in the cultural conservatives' campaign to promote entertainers who do things not allowed in church.

more rappers are killed by other rappers than by cops.rednecks or peckerwoods.

Evidence?

 

[mad cow]

Here is just one link to the deaths of Tupac and Biggie.

http://www.laweekly.com/2011-10-06/...uge-knight-ordered-tupac-and-biggie-killings/

That's two.Now you show me links to two rappers killed by cops,rednecks or peckerwoods and we'll be even and go on from there.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Is one question on one worksheet in an entire ciriculum promoting a "gangstah lifestyle"?

Puyau says the worksheet has already been pulled and will not be used again.

 

[KAYA]

I am reminded of this well known quote:

“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”

― George Carlin

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

I am reminded of this well known quote:

Says the person who thinks he knows what's best for other people's children.

 

[KAYA]

Says the person who thinks she knows what's best for other people's children.

I am a father of two elementary aged children and if I want to expose what I see as flaws with the Common Core curriculum (in whole or in part) I have that right. I am speaking on behalf of MY children.

Btw, since you are so wise why did you assume me to be female?