Comedian Jim Norton comments on Ron Paul

[dawnbt]

It just blows my mind that to be told that we were created by and in the image of a loving creator strikes such an angry cord in some, but tell them they were created by sludge which formed into a flea ridden ape and "That's cool! I like that!"

 

[emr1028]

It just blows my mind that to be told that we were created by and in the image of a loving creator strikes such an angry cord in some, but tell them they were created by sludge which formed into a flea ridden ape and "That's cool! I like that!"

"Be humble for you are made of earth. Be noble for you are made of stars"

 

[dawnbt]

Nope. No stars here.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Ok, well first of all I didn't say that if you don't believe in evolution than you must be stupid and uneducated. I said it makes you look silly and uneducated. I think it's perfectly acceptable to have room for doubt, however at the same time the evidence for evolution is so goddamn overwhelming that honestly, you have to be pretty senseless to entirely reject the theory. You have to be even more senseless to reject it in favor of a book of myths that claims an invisible sky fairy created the universe 6,000 years ago. I don't think that you personally believe that, but at some point the people who do are going to have to come to terms with the fact that what they believe just isn't true, so that we as a species and as a society can move on.

And yes, we have observed evolution through each evolutionary mechanism.

And for the record, I've actually spent quite a bit of time (both in classes and in my spare time) reading about evolutionary theory. I honestly just don't understand how people can deny that given everything we know and understand about the universe and this planet, how people can honestly reject evolution altogether. I'm fairly convinced that a vast majority of people who reject evolution either don't understand it or don't want to understand it.

So why is it that you see it as acceptable to insult my intelligence like you are, and I don't do the same thing? Could it be that your worldview is more dogmatic than mine? Also, I guess I was right that I have more education than you on the subject. How do you then acknowledge this and still get on your high horse?

Let me give you a little lesson. This is very basic stuff:

I acknowledge that species change over time. We have genetic drift and Mendel's pea plant experiments. We have mutations. However, almost all the mutations are harmful rather than helpful. I acknowledge that we observe genetic changes over a few generations. This, however, does not mean we can extrapolate and "fill in the blanks" with our imagination and say it happened progressively over millions of years. Everywhere in nature, you see that there are limits to genetic changes. Why make an exception for evolution? There are limits. There are many holes in the theory of evolution, such as how you get the information to go from non-life to life, or from protein to cell. There is no basis in genetics for believing something this dramatic can occur in the genetic code. I don't expect you to change your mind, but at least acknowledge that evolution can be reasonably doubted. The evidence is not overwhelming. What you're doing now is called DOGMA. Do you know what that means?

 

[certaindeath4]

I wonder, why is it that creationists spending their time refuting holes in the story of evolution, saying it isn't proven "enough", when, confronted by the same question, they offer no evidence of their own? Talk about a double standard. And yes, context is everything, because we are talking about what should be taught in SCIENCE classes, not philosophy. Evolution may be incomplete, and there may be some teachers who push it too far without enforcing the responsibility of the individual to search for evidence to back up their claims, however, it is the best "science" we have to explain the origins of man, and it should continue to be taught until it is disproved. Same goes for the theory of gravity, relativity etc etc.

 

[kuckfeynes]

None of this really matters. There is so much misunderstanding on both sides that they each only attack the extremes.

Most creationists I know do not reject evolution completely, they just reject it as proof against a creator.

Most science geeks I know do not try to use evolution as evidence against a creator, just evidence against the literal accuracy of Genesis and other religions' creation stories.

What matters is this: If a group of parents want to send their kids to a privately funded school that values dogma over science, that's their choice. I went to a school like that, academically it was better than the public school (no thanks to my parents' tax dollars), and yes eventually I did learn about evolution.

No one should have the right to force anyone to teach their kids anything. And no one should have the right to forcibly confiscate their wealth to subsidize schools that contradict their beliefs, however illogical they may seem.

 

[rawful]

Norton just said he's officially a Ron Paul guy and hope he wins. Send him some supportive tweets!

 

[yokna7]

I love Opie and Anthony. Lil' Jimmy Norton is on board I think, but Anthony is a neo-con. We'll work on it.