College Debt

[mello]

 

[2young2vote]

Do you think the mindset of these people is...

A. Why wasn't my education free or why won't the government help pay for it,

or

B. Why is education so expensive in the first place? Maybe if we got the cost to go down we could afford it without massive amounts of debt.

 

[willwash]

Do you think the mindset of these people is...

A. Why wasn't my education free or why won't the government help pay for it,

or

B. Why is education so expensive in the first place? Maybe if we got the cost to go down we could afford it without massive amounts of debt.

I like to think (B), but I'm sure in at least some of them there's an element of (a)

 

[MelissaWV]

Technically I would have had a negative in front of mine if I'd bothered to graduate. I had scholarships, and I worked during college. Unfortunately it was boring, and I wanted a better job, so I left and don't intend on finishing.

 

[seraphson]

Do you think the mindset of these people is...

A. Why wasn't my education free or why won't the government help pay for it,

or

B. Why is education so expensive in the first place? Maybe if we got the cost to go down we could afford it without massive amounts of debt.

I like this point because it extends to other problem areas. An example would be welfare. Instead of arguing about whether or not to expand welfare why not get to the root of the issue and target the shitty economy that perpetuates and even creates circumstances that would otherwise be non issues? After all, why would people need three shopping carts full of food (note their repulsive obesity and the parent and three kids all wielding iPhones [*yes, I know, not always the case]) at the first of every month if we had a healthy economy that allows the people to support self sustainability? Instead of fixing the problem we create shitty workarounds that eventually exacerbate the problem further.

And for my bullshit probably anecdotal analysis of why education is so expensive? I believe it comes down to an old fashioned supply/demand issue. With loans being handed out like cake at a five year old's birthday party the market is set on a false signal to support unjustified high demand. High demand equals high prices. Of course the whole "liberal" mentality that views that everyone's equal, everyone's a winner, everyone's a little bundle of sunshine doesn't help because god forbid you work a "menial, non-college degree bearing, blue collared" job. Also, (and I maybe totally wrong here and willing to accept that) I don't really see the price mechanism being allowed to work at colleges. Is it me or does it seem like any degree costs roughly the same as any other degree given that it's acquired from the same college (BA-MA level)? If people were to see that degree X is fairly cheap to acquire would that not be a suggestion that it's in low demand and so allow them to adjust their expectations? I suppose the point I'm trying to make is that the whole bullshit pipe dream you're sold as a kid that if you get a degree you're guaranteed, short of a meteor landing on your face, to get the big house, fancy car, etc. is still being played on repeat despite the market telling us otherwise.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

I like this point because it extends to other problem areas. An example would be welfare. Instead of arguing about whether or not to expand welfare why not get to the root of the issue and target the shitty economy that perpetuates and even creates circumstances that would otherwise be non issues? After all, why would people need three shopping carts full of food (note their repulsive obesity and the parent and three kids all wielding iPhones [*yes, I know, not always the case]) at the first of every month if we had a healthy economy that allows the people to support self sustainability? Instead of fixing the problem we create shitty workarounds that eventually exacerbate the problem further.

And for my bullshit probably anecdotal analysis of why education is so expensive? I believe it comes down to an old fashioned supply/demand issue. With loans being handed out like cake at a five year old's birthday party the market is set on a false signal to support unjustified high demand. High demand equals high prices. Of course the whole "liberal" mentality that views that everyone's equal, everyone's a winner, everyone's a little bundle of sunshine doesn't help because god forbid you work a "menial, non-college degree bearing, blue collared" job. Also, (and I maybe totally wrong here and willing to accept that) I don't really see the price mechanism being allowed to work at colleges. Is it me or does it seem like any degree costs roughly the same as any other degree given that it's acquired from the same college (BA-MA level)? If people were to see that degree X is fairly cheap to acquire would that not be a suggestion that it's in low demand and so allow them to adjust their expectations? I suppose the point I'm trying to make is that the whole bullshit pipe dream you're sold as a kid that if you get a degree you're guaranteed, short of a meteor landing on your face, to get the big house, fancy car, etc. is still being played on repeat despite the market telling us otherwise.

Another thing artificially inflating "higher education" (I use "education" here loosely, as my experience tells me it's not all that "high") is the various anti-discrimination laws that prohibit employers from insisting that prospective employees have a certain IQ. The end-run around that was to make a degree requisite to be considered for many jobs. So, one has to spend thousands of dollars to get a degree in something when in reality a competency or IQ test would be sufficient.

 

[RJB]

So, one has to spend thousands of dollars to get a degree in something when in reality a competency or IQ test would be sufficient.

No kidding. I know semi-retards with degrees.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

No kidding. I know semi-retards with degrees.

lol The likes of GW Bush, John Kerry, and loads of other barely functional dumbasses have ivy league degrees.

 

[RJB]

lol The likes of GW Bush, John Kerry, and loads of other barely functional dumbasses have ivy league degrees.

Don't forget Obama.

 

[Schifference]

IQ Facts and IQ of Famous People
http://academictips.org/interesting-facts/iq-facts-and-iq-of-famous-people/