Colbert on Morning Joe: endorses (in all seriousness) Ron Paul

The joke was awesome! It was kinda deep once you think about it, but, even on the surface, it was hilarious!

It was a good joke, but you need implicit knowledge of the two things he was indirectly referencing, Rumpelstiltskin and the Gold standard. Some of those talking heads probably didn't get either of those aspects of the joke.

Did anyone notice how the air was sucked out of that room when he said he would choose Ron Paul? It's like all of them froze. There's quite a powerful "conditioning" effect going on right now.
 
Those of you saying he was joking about it and it wasn't an endorsement -- ok, it wasn't an OFFICIAL endorsement. But it seemed to be an endorsement of his consistency. Yes, he made a joke before -- but that's what he's there for. To make jokes. It would have been weird if he didn't make a joke and then praise Paul...
 
Wikipedia entry on plot...

"In order to make himself appear more important, a miller lied to a king, telling him that his daughter could spin straw into gold. The king called for the girl, shut her in a tower room with straw and a spinning wheel, and demanded that she spin the straw into gold by morning, for three nights, or be executed (other versions have the king threatening to lock her up in a dungeon forever). She had given up all hope, when an impish creature appeared in the room and spun straw into gold for her in return for her necklace, then again the following night for her ring. On the third night, when she had nothing with which to reward him, the strange creature spun straw into gold for a promise that the girl's first-born child would become his.
The king was so impressed that he married the miller's daughter, but when their first child was born, the imp returned to claim his payment: "Now give me what you promised". The queen was frightened and offered him all the wealth she had if she could keep the child. The imp refused but finally agreed to give up his claim to the child if the queen could guess his name in three days. At first she failed, but before the final night, her messenger discovered the imp's remote mountain cottage and, unseen, overheard the imp hopping about his fire and singing. While there are many variations in this song, the 1886 translation by Lucy Crane reads:
Today do I bake, to-morrow I brew,The day after that the queen's child comes in;And oh! I am glad that nobody knewThat the name I am called is Rumpelstiltskin!"[SUP][1]"
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So it was clever in that it called them out on not "knowing his name". And that if they did he would teach them how to spin fiat "hay" into real "gold"..i.e..if he became President there would be a gold standard of sound money but they have to speak his name...The first born child is the nomination and subsequent Presidency, so within the joke is subtle sarcasm, a strike at the panelists, an evocative image of RP as an imp who can turn hay into gold as well as their narrative into pwnage and is a major cognitive loaded truth bomb. The laughs were the results of that cognitive dissonance taking many new tangents in their constructs and they couldn't contain the neurological overload. Great stuff.

Rev9

+rep

You went to the bottom of the ocean on that one (read: that was deep).
 
There's a difference between respect and an endorsement. Like Stewart, Colbert may genuinely respect Paul, but he's going to vote for Obama.
 
South Carolina Republicans do not watch MSNBC.

And people do not take Colbert seriously.
c'mon man. the young folk watch Colbert, democrats do, i do. youtube is good, and this is really good.

he's gone after Parry (with an A), Gingrich, Romney... bet they're just waiting to release a big healthy batch of Santorum when it's needed.
 
Brilliant slam at the media. They along with all the other MSM shows gave Ron Paul yet another blackout after a great debate night, and he calls them out on it and makes them laugh at the joke that was on them.
 
There's a difference between respect and an endorsement. Like Stewart, Colbert may genuinely respect Paul, but he's going to vote for Obama.

I think you are wrong. Colbert is conservative. I read experts from his book when my daughter was reading it. He has very conservative views.
 
It's on Reddit if anyone wants to upvote (or downvote) it.

BUT, I disagree with everyone. I think the reddit title is better. I don't think it's an endorsement. I think he, like Stewart, respect Paul... but very much disagree with him. They'll be on Obama mode in the next couple months.

The Super Pac thing makes it pretty clear that they're very much on the opposite side of the issue.

The gold joke, though, was brilliant.

- Darin
Since we're all just giving our opinions, here's mine. At my own peril, I pretty much take the opposite view of the above.

Initially, I didn't understand the joke and I still don't really get it. Despite the clarification as a reference to the Rumpelstiltskin character and even when associated with Ron's connection to the gold standard, I found it to be a bit too 'off-the-wall' and too obscure to be really funny.
I think to be truly funny, the premise has to be clear, and I think any clarity here existed largely inside Colbert's head. Despite the laughs from Joe and others, I think the basis for the "joke" was lost on most, myself included. In essence, it lacked context. I'm not sure I know where he was coming from, or where he was going with it. Had it been preceded by some discussion of the media ignoring Ron, perhaps it might have had resonated better. As it stood, it was, at best, an arcane inside joke. I just think having to analyze it, interpret it, or provide conjecture on its origins or intent, doesn't say much about its innate comedic value.
(Yes, I know, overthought and at odds with the way this thread is headed, but, still, just my .02.) ;)

As to his later out-of-character "endorsement", I think it was pretty much just that. Not an endorsement for the presidency (Obama has that), but for the Republican nomination. He gave a serious answer to a very specific question as to who he would favor or support out of the four men on stage. And he didn't say "I like Paul's consistency, but...(and then choose someone else)". He clarified why he named Paul, and it was a definitive and reasonable (if limited) assessment. No, he would not agree with much of Ron's domestic policy positions, but he would not do so for any of the other GOP contenders either. For the GOP field, it was an endorsement.
 
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Sorry people but get back on the ground. I remember people saying "Mark my words Ron will win Iowa." How that went? Today polls (if done by professionals) are really really accurate. Third place is best we can do if we consider the reality of MSM and GOP establishment....
 
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At least Colbert shows that Ron Paul should be considered honorable for his consistancy. You would think voters would find that highly appealing and important since no one candidate is consistant.
 
I think you are wrong. Colbert is conservative. I read experts from his book when my daughter was reading it. He has very conservative views.

He pretends to be conservative it is part of his act. Colbert the actual person is progressive.
 
Colbert is a conservative libertarian, a counterpoint to his friend Stewart being a liberal libertarian. Colbert's on-stage persona is a parody of a neo-con.
 
and of course the rest of the puppets on stage just glaze right over it and on to next subject...they have a Ron Paul default mode built into their tiny puppet brains
 
and of course the rest of the puppets on stage just glaze right over it and on to next subject...they have a Ron Paul default mode built into their tiny puppet brains

Exactly. When he comes out of character and makes a statement like that about a supposed "fringe" candidate, you would think there would be a single followup question. Instead, they quickly move on lest they lose their jobs.
 
I think he was serious too. The response of the others on the show, no laughter, no joking.
 
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