FreedomProsperityPeace
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CNN wonders where Ron Paul's vote will go after he drops out
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Yeah they better not change. If someone else wins it will have to be without our delegates.
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Brian in Maryland
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I will be writing Ron Paul's name in.
I hope you find someone “conservative”.There are actually only two philosophies here; individualism and collectivism. Right, left, Democrat, Republican, liberal, conservative, etc. have lost all meaning. And, the founders spoke against political parties. It is about the individual not a group.
Also, Dr. Paul keeps saying he will be in the race as long as we keep him there.
Instead of being "pragmatic" are you doing everything you can toward that end?
https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate/
My wife and I donated $60 today and will be donating every week and $100 on MLK day http://www.freeatlast2008.com/
The other candidates are running out of money.
We can and will do this!
Thomas Paine
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I'm voting for Ron Paul as a write in at the general election, too! Normally I would rally behind any GOP nominee but McCain and the rest of the neocon thugs have been so snarky toward Ron Paul that I will be damned if I am going to cast a vote for any other GOP nominee.
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They just don't get it. If Ron doesn't get the GOP nomination, the GOP loses all Ron's supporters, plain and simple.
As if we'd vote for McCain because the media likes to call him a "maverick" whatever the hell that's supposed to mean.
As if we'd vote for McCain because the media likes to call him a "maverick" whatever the hell that's supposed to mean.
Honestly, while I fully support the message and have for my entire adult life, I am not convinced that the messenger is the best man for the job this time out.
While Paul may stay in the race, this does not neccessarily mean he will be in contention for the nomination by the time my primary comes around. There is a huge difference between the being in the race and being in contention for the nomination. Keyes for instance is still in the race, though he has zero chance of winning.
I ran a poll earlier tonight regarding this. Granted it wasn't a huge sample and hardly scientific, but when asked "If Ron Paul had not of run for the nomination would you have..." only 7% said they would have voted in the GOP primary. The rest would have voted in the Dem primary (18%) or not have participated at all (74%).
If these results mirror the actual Paul support nationwide, the loss to the GOP is an extremely small percentage of voters.
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RevolutionSD
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Don't you guys get it?
They're trying to persuade RP voters to join another camp and make him drop out!
Won't work, we don't pay attention to what MSM pundits say.
Truth is, we've got THEM by the balls!
This thing has just begun. We are in the building stage. We will have 15% support or more by convention time. RP will take us to another party OR force the GOP to change OR force them to nominate him. If they refuse and we pull out of the GOP, the Republican party is TOAST.
I'm telling you, we ARE winning, right now. Just keep building this thing and good things will come!
They're trying to persuade RP voters to join another camp and make him drop out!
Won't work, we don't pay attention to what MSM pundits say.
Truth is, we've got THEM by the balls!
This thing has just begun. We are in the building stage. We will have 15% support or more by convention time. RP will take us to another party OR force the GOP to change OR force them to nominate him. If they refuse and we pull out of the GOP, the Republican party is TOAST.
I'm telling you, we ARE winning, right now. Just keep building this thing and good things will come!
See I don't know if this is neccessarily true or something the GOP is the least bit concerned about. If the Paul base is made up primarily of people who wouldnt have voted GOP in the first place, then what are they really losing? People I have talked with that are closer to things that most, don't seem to be the least it concerned with losing Paul's base.
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it'll be a cold day in hell before ANYONE else gets my vote.
But if the Paul campaign never existed would you have voted for the eventual GOP nominee?
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This is what happens.
Notice how they only target Ron Paul supporters and smear them? They divide up the types of supporters and try to get Ron to tell them to quit supporting him.
That is just media trying to play games because Ron Paul has alot of supporters who like him and did their research.
They are trying to promote infighting and make us silence the types of supporters the media go after. It's an old trick.
Notice how they only target Ron Paul supporters and smear them? They divide up the types of supporters and try to get Ron to tell them to quit supporting him.
That is just media trying to play games because Ron Paul has alot of supporters who like him and did their research.
They are trying to promote infighting and make us silence the types of supporters the media go after. It's an old trick.
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You're comparing apples with oranges. The 18% that would have voted in the Dem Primary and the 74% that would not have participated in the Primaries at all WOULD vote in the General Election for the Republican nominee (and probably ticket) if that nominee was Ron Paul. These are voters that any neocon nominee is not going to get in the General Election. If a neocon candidate wins the GOP nomination but loses in the General Election by five percent (5%), then that neocon candidate better think hard and long about all the Ron Paul supporters who either chose not to participate in the General Election or cast write in votes for Ron Paul because of the crappy way Ron Paul was treated by the neocon hijackers of the Republican Party.
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See but I don't think the GOP is seeing it in that way. They see the RP base being made up of primarily voters who they wouldnt have had in the first place. In other words they arent losing anyone because they never had them in the first place. Since most of Paul's supporters are voting third party anyway ( I bet it's in that 70% range). So it's not like Paul's supporters are adding to Dem totals, they are in essence being removed from the process entirely, and never were there to begin with.
Buchanan was different, his base was made up primarily of average GOP voters. They made a firm stand in the primaries and to bring them back into the party they gave Buchanan a spot at the convention.
Let me put in another way. If 90% of Paul's base was diehard GOP voters who were fed up with the party and threatened to bolt, the GOP would be concerned. But since the large majority likely were third party people anyway, it's like they don't even exist.
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Yeah it does not matter anyway if Paul has 10%-15% support in the Republican vote. See even if that only means they actually lose a mere 2%-4% in the general election, that gives the dems a certain victory since the elections are usually decided by only a few percent either way, and that few percent is mostly already heading democratic because of the war anyway.
And there is no way I will vote for anyone else. Paul has inspired me and given me my hope back. No one will take that away from me again the rest of my life because Paul has taught me something more important than anything relating to politics, which is that all it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. I don't have to just go choose the lesser of two evils, and I refuse to do so, and thats why I would rather see Paul run on a 3rd party in an almost impossible to win fight than I would want to vote for some fascist republican nominee like McCain. And a communist like obama or clinton is out too.
And there is no way I will vote for anyone else. Paul has inspired me and given me my hope back. No one will take that away from me again the rest of my life because Paul has taught me something more important than anything relating to politics, which is that all it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. I don't have to just go choose the lesser of two evils, and I refuse to do so, and thats why I would rather see Paul run on a 3rd party in an almost impossible to win fight than I would want to vote for some fascist republican nominee like McCain. And a communist like obama or clinton is out too.
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