CNN poll, Dr. Paul up to 2%

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http://www.pollingreport.com/wh08rep.htm

Rudy Giuliani 30
Fred Thompson 19
John McCain 18
Mitt Romney 9
Newt Gingrich 8
Mike Huckabee 2 down from 3
Ron Paul 2 up from 1
Sam Brownback 1 down from 2
Tom Tancredo 1 down from 2
Tommy Thompson always 1
Jim Gilmore - down from 2
Duncan Hunter - down from 1
 
If Dr. Paul can continue to double his support every month, he'll be up to 256% by the end of the year.:)
 
Good news

I think we're going to start seeing some 3% and 4%'s in coming weeks, and then after the Q2 numbers come out in mid-July it's going to start really rising.

Think of these past weeks and months as RP supporters priming the pump, getting the word out online, winning passionate converts to constitutionalism, honing our arguments. When the breakout comes, we're going to be ready, and the soft support of the paid suits will begin to crumble. ;)
 
That's obviously not a poll indicative of the actual voting population's opinion, but it shows a bit of growth, nonetheless.
 
I have GOT to look into the details of how they are doing these polls. 99.5% of the remarks I see on the internet about Rudy are negative at best and usually venomous. He literally has no significant support anywhere that I look. So who the hell are they polling? People living under rocks or what?

Personally, I think these polls are fixed.
 
I really believe polls are fixed. My best friend used to work for a polling corporation. He told me that they purposely push you into a category or answer by when they give you the answers hoping you don't hear all your choices. They know what they are doing to influence the poll and create false public popularity.

I mean, who wants a Kerry/Edwards bumper sticker on their car? People want to be with the winner so they don't seem like a flip-flopper.
 
I agree with Mike and Patriot One

I think the polls aren't quite "fixed" but are often "slanted." Keep in mind also that a poll's value increases in direct proportion to proximity of the election -- we are still 6 months + from the Iowa caucus, several candidates haven't even entered the race yet, only about 6% of those who respond to these polls say they have definitely made up their mind. And these polls don't find the people who are going to vote very well in this specific case. I suspect RP is really polling around 5% right now. Support for Giuliani, Fred Thompson, and Romney is especially soft.

Ron's numbers are different from any other candidates in that his support is solid.

We're doing real well. :)
 
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I have GOT to look into the details of how they are doing these polls. 99.5% of the remarks I see on the internet about Rudy are negative at best and usually venomous. He literally has no significant support anywhere that I look. So who the hell are they polling? People living under rocks or what?

Personally, I think these polls are fixed.

yes, they must be. wierd that people are voting for him.mister data base ID card
 
Many things surprise me about this poll:

1) that Benito Giuliani does so well among likely Republican voters. They really must not know what he stands for.
2) that McCain is doing as well as it appears considering Ron Paul is at least on par with him for fundraising.
3) that Newt is still being included in the polling. I haven't heard a thing about him in at least a month.

But the main story I'm getting from this poll is that there are two Americas: one that is online, has access to ALL information that can possibly be had, and does not answer telephone polls, and one America that only gets the information that is handed to it, that which is spoon fed. These people apparently answer their phones.
 
That's obviously not a poll indicative of the actual voting population's opinion, but it shows a bit of growth, nonetheless.


agreed, but maybe it shows they are having more trouble fudging him down below 1%
 
I think the polls aren't quite "fixed" but are often "slanted."

The devil is always in the details with polls. I see none of them published the details on how they chose who/where to poll, what the pre-qualifications were to take the poll, etc., etc. They can somewhat effectively cage people from phone surveys these days because of so many resources on the internet to find preferences, etc.

And if we think they won't do it, well, we would be fools. MSM and polls are nothing more than manipulation tools to sell the next Presidential American Idol to the masses.
 
Rudy, Rudy, Rudy

Many things surprise me about this poll:

1) that Benito Giuliani does so well among likely Republican voters. They really must not know what he stands for.


Sheer name recognition and the 9/11 effect. Giuliani is not going to get the Republican nomination, it is just not going to happen, and we're going to look back and wonder why anyone ever thought he would.
 
MSM and polls are nothing more than manipulation tools to sell the next Presidential American Idol to the masses.

Yes.
 
but maybe it shows they are having more trouble fudging him down below 1%

Agreed, and very important. 1% or lower is not good PR, but once you hit 3% (in what is becoming an 11- or 12- or even 13-man race) you're separating yourself from Those Who Will Drop Out Soon.
 
I little about polling

Obviously there are many more major think tanks, and we shall come to most of them in this book. One of the most important areas of cooperation between what think tanks turn out and what becomes government and public policy are the “pollsters.” It is the job of the polling companies to mold and shape public opinion in the way that suits the conspirators. Polls are constantly being taken by CBS-NBC-ABC, the New York Times, the Washington Post. Most of these efforts are coordinated at the National Opinion Research Center where, as much as it will amaze most of us, a psychological profile was developed for the entire nation.


Findings are fed into the computers of Gallup Poll and Yankelovich, Skelley and White for comparative evaluation. Much of what we read in our newspapers or see on television has first been cleared by the polling companies. WHAT WE SEE IS WHAT THE POLLSTERS THINK WE SHOULD SEE.


This is called “public opinion making.” The whole idea behind this bit of social conditioning is to find out how responsive the public is to POLICY DIRECTIVES handed down by the Committee of 300. We are called “targeted population groups” and what is measured by the pollsters is how much resistance is generated to what appears in the “Nightly News.” Later, we shall learn exactly how this deceptive practice got started and who is responsible for it.


It is all part of the elaborate opinion-making process created at, Tavistock. Today our people believe they are well-informed but what they do not realize is that the opinions they believe are their own were in fact created in the research institutions and think tanks of America and that none of us are free to form our own opinions because of the information we are provided with by the media and the pollsters.


Polling was brought to a fine art just before the United States entered the Second World War. Americans, unbeknown to themselves, were conditioned to look upon Germany and Japan as dangerous enemies who had to be stopped. In a sense, this was true, and that makes conditioned thinking all the more dangerous, because based on the INFORMATlON fed to them, the enemy did indeed appear to be Germany and Japan. Just recently we saw how well Tavistock’s conditioning process works when Americans were conditioned to perceive Iraq as a threat and Saddam Hussein as a personal enemy of the United States.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_committee300_03.htm
 
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Many things surprise me about this poll:

1) that Benito Giuliani does so well among likely Republican voters. They really must not know what he stands for.


Sheer name recognition and the 9/11 effect. Giuliani is not going to get the Republican nomination, it is just not going to happen, and we're going to look back and wonder why anyone ever thought he would.

I agree with that. Rudy is burnt toast already and the GOP knows it. That's why they are promo'ing Thompson and trying to see if they can sell that pig with lipstick. All that manufactured buzz about him is nothing more than a commercial (coming to a theater near you soon!) to see if the public bites.
 
Rudy is burnt toast already and the GOP knows it. That's why they are promo'ing Thompson

Yep, but Thompson I don't find very threatening no matter how they prop him up. He's spent 20 years as a lobbyist around his Senate stint, RP spent 20 years delivering babies, often for free because he wouldn't accept Medicare on principle. If it comes down to Paul vs. Fred Thompson we should all grab that matchup with both hands!
 
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