[CNN] "I don't know, so I'm an atheist libertarian." - Penn Jillette

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http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/08/16/jillette.atheist.libertarian/

I try to claim that I was friends with the genius Richard Feynman. He came to our show a few times and was very complimentary, and I had dinner with him a couple times, and we chatted on the phone several times. I'd call him to get quick tutoring on physics so I could pretend to read his books.

No matter how much I want to brag, it's overstating it to call him a friend. I would never have called him to help me move a couch. I did, however, call him once to ask how we could score some liquid nitrogen for a Letterman spot we wanted to do. He was the only physicist I knew at the time. He explained patiently that he didn't know. He was a theoretical physicist and I needed a hands-on guy, but he'd try to find one for me.

About a half-hour later a physics teacher from a community college in Brooklyn called me and said, "I don't know what kind of practical joke this is, but a Nobel Prize-winning scientist just called me here at the community college, gave me this number, and told me to call Penn of Penn & Teller to help with a Letterman appearance."
I guess that's close to a friend.

My friend Richard Feynman said, "I don't know." I heard him say it several times. He said it just like Harold, the mentally handicapped dishwasher I worked with when I was a young man making minimum wage at Famous Bill's Restaurant in Greenfield, Massachusetts.

"I don't know" is not an apology. There's no shame. It's a simple statement of fact. When Richard Feynman didn't know, he often worked harder than anyone else to find out, but while he didn't know, he said, "I don't know."

I don't believe the majority always knows what's best for everyone. I like to think I fit in somewhere between my friends Harold and Richard. I don't know. I try to remember to say "I don't know" just the way they both did, as a simple statement of fact. It doesn't always work, but I try.

Last week I was interviewed for Piers Morgan's show (which used to be Larry King's show). Piers beat me up a bit for being an atheist (that's his job) and then beat me up a bit for being a libertarian (also his job). He did this by asking me impossible questions, questions that none of us, Harold, Richard, me, (or Piers), could ever answer.

He started with "How did you get here?" and I started talking about my road to showbiz and atheism and he interrupted and said he meant how the universe was created. I said, "I don't know."

He said, "God," an answer that meant Piers didn't know either, but he had a word for it that was supposed to make me feel left out of his enlightened club.

Then he asked me what we could do to help poor people. I said I donated money, food, medical care, and services and he said, "No," he meant, what could society do to solve the problem of poor people. Again, I was stumped.

He said the government had to do it, which I interpreted as another way of saying he didn't know, but he thought that made me look mean ... even though I do care and do try to help.

What makes me libertarian is what makes me an atheist -- I don't know. If I don't know, I don't believe. I don't know exactly how we got here, and I don't think anyone else does, either. We have some of the pieces of the puzzle and we'll get more, but I'm not going to use faith to fill in the gaps. I'm not going to believe things that TV hosts state without proof. I'll wait for real evidence and then I'll believe.

And I don't think anyone really knows how to help everyone. I don't even know what's best for me. Take my uncertainty about what's best for me and multiply that by every combination of the over 300 million people in the United States and I have no idea what the government should do.

President Obama sure looks and acts way smarter than me, but no one is 2 to the 300 millionth power times smarter than me. No one is even 2 to the 300 millionth times smarter than a squirrel. I sure don't know what to do about an AA+ rating and if we should live beyond our means and about compromise and sacrifice. I have no idea. I'm scared to death of being in debt. I was a street juggler and carny trash -- I couldn't get my debt limit raised, I couldn't even get a debt limit -- my only choice was to live within my means. That's all I understand from my experience, and that's not much.

It's amazing to me how many people think that voting to have the government give poor people money is compassion. Helping poor and suffering people is compassion. Voting for our government to use guns to give money to help poor and suffering people is immoral self-righteous bullying laziness.

People need to be fed, medicated, educated, clothed, and sheltered, and if we're compassionate we'll help them, but you get no moral credit for forcing other people to do what you think is right. There is great joy in helping people, but no joy in doing it at gunpoint.

People try to argue that government isn't really force. You believe that? Try not paying your taxes. (This is only a thought experiment -- suggesting on CNN.com that someone not pay his or her taxes is probably a federal offense, and I'm a nut, but I'm not crazy.). When they come to get you for not paying your taxes, try not going to court. Guns will be drawn. Government is force -- literally, not figuratively.

I don't believe the majority always knows what's best for everyone. The fact that the majority thinks they have a way to get something good does not give them the right to use force on the minority that don't want to pay for it. If you have to use a gun, I don't believe you really know jack. Democracy without respect for individual rights sucks. It's just ganging up against the weird kid, and I'm always the weird kid.
How did we get here and how do we save everyone? I don't know, but I'm doing the best I can. Sorry Piers, that's all I got.
 
Of anyone who gets any attention politically i think i am most closely aligned to Penn.
 
I've noticed that every time someone mentions something about not paying taxes that they always advise people to pay them. Its as if theres a speech police threatening to kill people such as Penn if they don't advise people to pay ("This is only a thought experiment.") Think about it: Has anyone gave a compelling argument such as Penn on TV or a major radio program and said "OK everyone, lets be free! Don't pay your taxes. There's more of us than them!"
 
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I've noticed that every time someone mentions something about not paying taxes that they always advise people to pay them.

Its as if theres a speech police threatening to kill people such as Penn if they don't advise people to pay.

For one they are protecting themselves since they do not want to be liable in civil court by the person whose life is turned upside down and prosecuted for the advice not to pay their taxes. If you are having a conversation with someone isn't that really the best advice to avoid the government completely destroying that persons life.

Think about it: Has anyone gave a compelling argument such as Penn on TV or a major radio program and said "OK everyone, lets be free! Don't pay your taxes. There's more of us than them!"

I replied before you added that. That is a scary proposition for a TV host whom may fear the same end result with no one following along. It would have to be someone that can bring thousands to rallies, has at least partial support from the media and willing to risk his career and fortune.
 
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I've noticed that every time someone mentions something about not paying taxes that they always advise people to pay them. Its as if theres a speech police threatening to kill people such as Penn if they don't advise people to pay ("This is only a thought experiment.") Think about it: Has anyone gave a compelling argument such as Penn on TV or a major radio program and said "OK everyone, lets be free! Don't pay your taxes. There's more of us than them!"

see Irwin Schiff.
 
Of anyone who gets any attention politically i think i am most closely aligned to Penn.

I'm not making a comment directed at you personally, but more about the forum as a whole.

From watching Penn's stuff, I'd somehow doubt he'd like all the cop hating and 911 truthing that goes on in this forum.

I think that the celebrity who would fit in most in this forum would be Jessie Ventura
 
I'm not making a comment directed at you personally, but more about the forum as a whole.

From watching Penn's stuff, I'd somehow doubt he'd like all the cop hating and 911 truthing that goes on in this forum.

I think that the celebrity who would fit in most in this forum would be Jessie Ventura

Appeal to "authority." Try arguing your case without making major and obvious debate errors.
 
Appeal to "authority." Try arguing your case without making major and obvious debate errors.

Not to mention that I'd say nowhere near the majority on this forum are 911 truthers.

Cop haters? Meh. Agents to 'protect and serve' *the State*, mostly. This has been established by Supreme Courts, BTW.

But I digress.
 
"I don't believe the majority always knows what's best for everyone. I like to think I fit in somewhere between my friends Harold and Richard. I don't know. I try to remember to say "I don't know" just the way they both did, as a simple statement of fact. It doesn't always work, but I try."

I like that.
 
Not to mention that I'd say nowhere near the majority on this forum are 911 truthers.

Cop haters? Meh. Agents to 'protect and serve' *the State*, mostly. This has been established by Supreme Courts, BTW.

But I digress
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qft. The cops have no legal obligation to help anyone, ever. (I forget the SCOTUS case about this, but it has made it that far)
 
see Irwin Schiff.

This. Until there's more of us that would resort to violence than them, pay your taxes. How many IRS agents are there again? Add to that the local, state, federal and other secret police forces and that's a pretty big number with the executive, legislature, courts and the majority of sheeple's support.

Not saying it's impossible, but that day is a long way off.
 
If they do, of course. Why would you ask me such a silly question? And I wasn't "implying" that you made a debate error, I flat-out stated it.

Well I'd try to declare that you made some unnamed debate error, but you really haven't actually made debate.
 
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