CNN cost us Iowa

[Publicani]

Please, it's not just CNN, it's CNN, its FOX it's 50,000 jerk offs in iowa who voted for more war.

Hannity (Fox) started it and finished it in the last hour before caucuses. "Let me play, Rand, the newsletter bit for you to show I've been fair to your father."

 

[MrTudo]

In communist Vietnam there's obviously only 1 party. However it's mandatory that you vote and they actually have 2 seemingly different candidates running for office like a real election but of course it's all b/s, they are both "party" members and what the party says is all important. There is no individualism although there's the make believe 2 candidates. And during the christmas holidays, I shit you not, there's "holiday" lights in some places. I was living in Vungtau at the time and while motoring down the street I saw the lights but my Wife said look close and tell me what you see, so I did and there were little hammer and sickles with little festive holiday lights around them.

We're not quite there yet but we are definitely seeing similar strong arm tactics by the republican party and the press. VERY similar attitudes , republican hierarchy-communist hierarchy. VERY. It reminds me why I left the republican party in 1997 to join the LP and how difficult it was to even consider rejoining for the purpose of voting in the Fla primarys for Dr Paul. NO OTHER REASON. The republican party disgusts me as much as the democrat and everybit as much as the communist party although if I were to pin a medal signifying who is more truthful, I'd have to hand it to the communists. There you know the deal. The republicans lead the same way as the communists but say something different. It's not.

Income taxes in communist Vietnam are a couple of percentage points higher than the highest tax rate here. It's less in communist china.

Can't wait to vote for Dr Paul in a couple weeks here in Fla and immediately change the registration back to libertarian party and take a long hot shower afterwards.

 

[itsnobody]

All that tells me (and you, if you thought about it) is that MSNBC focused on your demographic. Other media outlets focused on other demographics. All worked in unison to thwart Ron Paul.

I watched all three flipping in between stations and MSNBC claimed that Ron Paul was just too far left and far right to be nominated (they mentioned the Civil Rights Act and many other things).

 

[Deborah K]

stop blaming the media - the big campaign's flawed strategies cost us Iowa and is in denial about the fact they used the wrong channels.

If Ron Paul visited all 99 counties like Santorum, we would have won, other direct channels were not maximized.

Then why were his polls down until the media started pumping him up?

 

[MrTudo]

Hannity (Fox) started it and finished it in the last hour before caucuses. "Let me play, Rand, the newsletter bit for you to show I've been fair to your father."

Hannity is a scumbag and he and oreily would fit in very nicely in communist countries. They really dig that authoritarian rule.

 

[ord33]

I think it is a combination of a few things.

First, the Bob Vander Plaats/Family Leader endorsement of Santorum did a lot more than people here realize. It separated the support of either Bachmann or Santorum to almost strictly Santorum along with the help of religious leaders gaining more of a consensus on a candidate. Especially after the Sorenson defection to the Paul camp fiasco. This solidified Santorum's standing some. Enough to increase him a little bit in the polls when he started taking away from Bachmann/Perry. So then the CNN poll happened and it inflated his numbers even more it was like a flood dam opening. Then all the media was talking about the Santorum surge while at the same time all the media outlets MSNBC, CNN, Fox, all the "Conservative" radio hosts all piled on Ron Paul and attacked him nearly nonstop.

As far as Romney's numbers increasing? I really don't have a good rationale for that. Other than the establishment staying with him and him obtaining virtually the same number of voters as in 2008.

 

[NorfolkPCSolutions]

I could not find a viable stream for Fox News, but could for CNN. Therefore, I subjected myself to their coverage almost exclusively - my time was shared between CNN and CSPAN.

Though I was caring for my infant son, I was still able to devote plenty of mental CPU cycles to the process of digesting the bias I witnessed against Ron Paul, and for Frothy Mixture.

That said, I wholeheartedly agree with OP. My comfort lies in the fact that our delegate count is tied at seven with Frothy and Flip Flopney. Who agrees with me that a request be put out across the forums for video evidence of bias in the coverage presented by CNN/FOX/MSNBC? I recall the general consensus that the BTO MB enjoyed such success due to the "get-one-back-on-'em" factor; America still loves her underdogs.

Besides, once we're done with Frothy, he will go back to being what he really is: a failed one-term senator from Pennsylvania whose constituents attuned their noses to his brand of bullshit in short order. I look forward to doing my part to accelerate that process nationwide!

So, who would like to help me make a video? PM me, and I will do all I can to help!

 

[jcarcinogen]

I could not find a viable stream for Fox News, but could for CNN. Therefore, I subjected myself to their coverage almost exclusively - my time was shared between CNN and CSPAN.

Though I was caring for my infant son, I was still able to devote plenty of mental CPU cycles to the process of digesting the bias I witnessed against Ron Paul, and for Frothy Mixture.

That said, I wholeheartedly agree with OP. My comfort lies in the fact that our delegate count is tied at seven with Frothy and Flip Flopney. Who agrees with me that a request be put out across the forums for video evidence of bias in the coverage presented by CNN/FOX/MSNBC? I recall the general consensus that the BTO MB enjoyed such success due to the "get-one-back-on-'em" factor; America still loves her underdogs.

Besides, once we're done with Frothy, he will go back to being what he really is: a failed one-term senator from Pennsylvania whose constituents attuned their noses to his brand of bullshit in short order. I look forward to doing my part to accelerate that process nationwide!

So, who would like to help me make a video? PM me, and I will do all I can to help!

EDIT: also for a 2008-2012 IOWA example.

 

[MrTudo]

Wow, what country is this again? Good G-d we are the only ones left.

 

[Kevin Smyth]

Information about CNN reporter Dana Bash:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dana_Bash

 

[kaberUSA]

As much as we shouldn't make excuses about coming in 3rd, I think you're right. Ron was doing very well, polling around 25% on average and on the upswing until CNN decided to character assassinate him. I haven't seen as relentless and blatant an attack since Rand won his state primary and msnbc did nothing but smear him for an entire weekend. And to add salt to the wounds they immediately turned around and pumped up Santorum with a misleading poll which spread like wildfire and basically called him the Second Coming which could do no harm.

Up to these last few weeks, I had always believed that CNN was the most reasonable of all the 24 hour news channels, but they just lost all of my respect after what they did to Ron. Forget the Taliban, forget Iran, if people want to know who the true enemies of this country are, look no further than those who own and operate the major news media outlets. These guys will do and say anything to make money even if it means selling out the truth.

Yup.. Massive smear job on CNN

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Wow, what country is this again? Good G-d we are the only ones left.

Just about. Fortunately, our power is forcing them to expose themselves. The more they expose themselves the stronger we go. We are now at a unique and peculiar point in history, where everything they do makes us stronger and makes them weaker, so they are desperately seeking a new angle. Desperation leads to even more outrageous behavior that leads to even more exposure that leads to even more people waking up.

The ratcheting process has started. It's all a matter of how quickly it ratchets up now. The endgame is finally inevitable.

 

[affa]

Just about. Fortunately, our power is forcing them to expose themselves. The more they expose themselves the stronger we go. We are now at a unique and peculiar point in history, where everything they do makes us stronger and makes them weaker, so they are desperately seeking a new angle. Desperation leads to even more outrageous behavior that leads to even more exposure that leads to even more people waking up.

The ratcheting process has started. It's all a matter of how quickly it ratchets up now. The endgame is finally inevitable.

This.

 

[MrTudo]

Yup.. Massive smear job on CNN

The taliban couldn't even dream of the kind of damage that's being inflicted here. There's no doubt that Ron would have won Iowa, and won by a large margin even without support from the republican party. This type of damage seeks to keep the status quo in place at all costs and that is scary. If they can do this, change the future of the country and do so in such a dishonest way, well the damage is incalculable.

And any reasonable thinking person has to agree that even if the salting of votes the republican party was said to be ready to do towards the end, quote end quote: Ron Paul Will Not Win The Iowa Caucus. And they meant it, didn't happen, just the constant hit after hit after hit, NEVER examining ANY of the economics of Dr Paul's plan such as cutting a trillion dollars. Not even a smart mouth "how ya gonna do dat huh" sarcastic question was asked, never showing the Doctors LIFE, the good things he's done, the constance of his defence of the Constitution, the fact he has been a catalyst to millions of new voters and older voters alike coming together for one cause and that's to bring this country to fiscal sanity and begin focusing on defending America rather than sending troops to so many countries. But they asked what he thought of gingrich or bachman or any of the other establishment candidates, never ever giving credibility of any kind and then towards the end a virtual free for all of disrespect from the republican party to a short poa and her communist boyfriend on CNN incredibly doing and saying what they did. It is mind boggling. I shall vote for Dr Paul in the fla primary and then promptly switch to the libertarian party.

 

[Kevin Smyth]

Fox News had Dick Morris on last week calling Ron Paul the biggest leftist candidate to run for president in the last 50 years, I think people here underestimate how much damage that made. Trying to blame CNN (which Republicans do not watch) for Paul losing Iowa is missing the mark.

 

[Aratus]

we can still win the GOP nomination for Doctor Ron Paul despite what CNN has done!

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Blame the campaign for that. The Gloria Borger interview was clearly a hit piece, BUT RP should not have walked out like he did. The fact he wasn't prepared in a better way, and the FACT they still have not held a press conference on the issue is really beyond me. Herman Cain was out in FULL defense over his supposedly false "accusations", but the RP campaign basically allowed him to be slandered for 2 full weeks with very little defense...and the difference is the RP campaign SHOULD HAVE KNOWN it would/could be an issue...heck I emailed an adviser BEFORE the Gloria Borger interview, on December 13, letting him know RP better be prepared for ANYTHING in regards to the newsletters issue.

Of course, it's ALWAYS the campaign because there's nobody else to blame.

Here's a thought. Maybe the campaign KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING by not making it a big issue? Did you ever stop to think that they do some things and not others for a reason? How can you possibly use Herman Cain as an example? He's out of the race, last time I checked.

You always just use your own preconceived notions of what is an appropriate action and never consider the possibility that you could be wrong and the campaign right. You see something you perceive as a flaw, and the debate is over. It's just mind-numbing how much opposition the campaign gets from its own grassroots organization over the little nit-picking self-acclaimed experts at campaigning and fund management.

 

[jmdrake]

I don't think the Gloria interview had anything to do with it. We were rising during that period and continued to rise after they smeared.

We lost momentum. Indies and dems didn't come out as much as projected. We dropped from 1st to 3rd place. There's no question that it hurt us.

 

[jmdrake]

It's too little too late now on the newsletter issue. That'll have to wait until after the GOP primaries.

(Gather all the documents, publish them online, and sit Paul down for a one-on-one interview with Wolf Blitzer to discuss the issues in-depth for 30-60 minutes. Add that video to the site hosting the documents, and let that be it.)

I disagree. If this isn't handled sooner rather than later we might not get through the republican primaries. If Ron loses the nomination, what's the point of him going on Wolf Blitzer for 30 to 60 minutes?

That said the "Compassion" ad is the best thing I've seen to counter this. That and what Ron Paul said in 2008 at the Tavis Smiley debate. Those clearly were not the words of a racist.



The above video should be contrasted with what Obama is doing in the "war on drugs". While blacks are still disproportionately being put in prison for minor drug crimes, Obama has U.S. troops in Afghanistan guarding the opium crop.