CNN cost us Iowa

[SilentBull]

And they will cost us new Hampshire. They won't allow Paul to be 2nd. Mark my words.

 

[Mordan]

the MSN has power because some people listen to them.

 

[WilliamC]

Yet. The fact the campaign has not FULLY addressed this issue, with an OFFICIAL press conference, I think means it will continue to be an issue...it doesn't matter how many times RP will say, "I didn't write them. I don't know who did. I disavow them.". They will beat a dead horse, until there is nothing left to beat.

The newletters are a dead issue, or will be as soon as Ron Paul lets his Press Secretary Gary Howard hold a Press Conference about them.

Wouldn't be too hard for Mr. Howard to make the case that Ron Paul isn't a racist.

 

[nbruno322]

Follow this whole race has been a good educational experience in how the establishment robs this country of real choice and manipulates elections.

And since the older demographic generally gets their information exclusively from the mainstream media and are a key element to winning the election....playing games with a poll (such as not polling independents/dems, having a small sample size and time period) to get the results you want, in this case showing a Santorum "surge" and the parroting of such false trends by other media organs creates a self fulfilling prophecy. Its balatant manipulation...

It was the CNN poll that showed Santorum at 15% when they didn't poll independents and Dems. With those people included, he was closer to 7% and this was confirmed by not one but TWO other polls taken on the same day. Santorum was NOT at 15% when CNN said he was. Not even close.

But every media outlet in the country showed that CNN poll over and over again, using it as an excuse to claim a Santorum surge.

I don't believe it was a conspiracy, just shitty luck.

 

[nbruno322]

True but thats not the point.

The point is that their Borger "interview" and fake poll about the Santorum "surge" set the news agenda....which other outlets picked up. They helped create the bogus narrative...what they did was totally unethical

CNN doesn't have that many viewers, they don't even get a million viewers during the daytime when the Borger interview first aired. CNN's nighttime lineup is rated 3rd behind both Fox News and MSNBC.

 

[Dr_SCN]

I thought it was a coincidence that the MSM waits right up until a few days before election day to basically declare a candidate that "evangelicals" should vote for.

It seems that whoever MSM says is the evangelical's candidate, they will step up to the plate and cast their votes for that candidate, the reason I say this is look at all the past polls until now. Santorum had nowhere near the kind of support he gained until the media told evangelical's who they are supposed to vote for as a demographic. It's sad and I wish that more people would do their homework before heading to the ballot box. That being said, I am a Christian myself, and I wouldn't vote for anyone except Ron Paul.

 

[dante]

It's not the newsletters - its the foreign policy. I think the campaign is moving to correct that - case in point the military speaker RP invited on stage last night during his speech.

I think other people hit the nail on the head about this. We also probably had a contingent of Anti-Romney voters that switched to Santorum.

Santorum has no money or organization. Our momentum will continue. On to NH!

 

[vita3]

CNN cuts off Ron Paul suporter/active soldier, live, saying we need to being troops home & not start another war for Israel.

 

[walt]

stop blaming the media - the big campaign's flawed strategies cost us Iowa and is in denial about the fact they used the wrong channels.

If Ron Paul visited all 99 counties like Santorum, we would have won, other direct channels were not maximized.

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

I wonder how Gary Howard feels about, only one minority in all the RP campaign Ads and that was a REVPAC ad? Would of been nice for Gary to be closer to Ron on stage during the condolence speech, instead way back in the corner last night.

The newletters are a dead issue, or will be as soon as Ron Paul lets his Press Secretary Gary Howard hold a Press Conference about them.

Wouldn't be too hard for Mr. Howard to make the case that Ron Paul isn't a racist.

 

[Southron]

stop blaming the media - the big campaign's flawed strategies cost us Iowa and is in denial about the fact they used the wrong channels.

If Ron Paul visited all 99 counties like Santorum, we would have won, other direct channels were not maximized.

It would have not been easy to do while still being employed in Congress. Santorum had all the time in the world.

 

[fc2008]

And they will cost us new Hampshire. They won't allow Paul to be 2nd. Mark my words.

Huntsman should easily place 2nd with an all-expense paid media barrage by the networks. He's the only one left who hasn't gotten a turn with the presstitutes.

 

[WilliamC]

stop blaming the media - the big campaign's flawed strategies cost us Iowa and is in denial about the fact they used the wrong channels.

If Ron Paul visited all 99 counties like Santorum, we would have won, other direct channels were not maximized.

There is truth here, Santorum more than any other candidate lived in Iowa, and that clearly helped him.

But he cannot use the same strategy Nationwide, and his funding and national campaign organization is almost non-existent, so he will only steal the limelight from Romney and not be able to capitalize on this win going forward.

Ron Paul does need to start heavily spending time in Florida and South Carolina though, IMHO.

 

[walt]

It would have not been easy to do while still being employed in Congress. Santorum had all the time in the world.

It would have been easier if he focused on events with registered Iowa voters (the demographics that matter) instead of trying to build a new generation of people who might vote on colleges. If he met all of these Iowa voters and stated, I want to make America the pleasant middle class place is used to be again in person, the Santorum surge could never have been pulled off.

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

We'll see if Jesse Benton changes Ron's communication methods and targets.

 

[speciallyblend]

The blame is the corrupt media/gop party officials(fox,cnn,msnbc and the gop establishment party officials). I will continue to support Ron Paul 2012. There is no other option! I will be expecting to vote outside of the gop after the lying media/gop! No One But Paul with or without the gop. ps the only way for us to rebound is to Win NH or SC if we do not win either. It will be over. Ron Paul 2012 in the gop or I will be going 3rd party. Not one gop candidate is even close to the republican platform/ ron paul's platform. This is all i have to say about the matter. The gop/media will burn in hell over this.

 

[Ireland4Liberty]

Thank goodness.

Folks, we were attacked 10x worse than every other candidate that polled first, and we took one tenth the damage they did.

Please post this in a new thread to rally the troops. It needs to be heard.

 

[sanssq]

Correct, Republicans don't watch CNN and these are the Republican primaries! Fox got Republicans to vote for Santorum while CNN scared away some of the Independents and youth and got them to stay home because of the newsletters.

On target.

 

[sanssq]

Blame the campaign for that. The Gloria Borger interview was clearly a hit piece, BUT RP should not have walked out like he did. The fact he wasn't prepared in a better way, and the FACT they still have not held a press conference on the issue is really beyond me. Herman Cain was out in FULL defense over his supposedly false "accusations", but the RP campaign basically allowed him to be slandered for 2 full weeks with very little defense...and the difference is the RP campaign SHOULD HAVE KNOWN it would/could be an issue...heck I emailed an adviser BEFORE the Gloria Borger interview, on December 13, letting him know RP better be prepared for ANYTHING in regards to the newsletters issue.

Blame the campaign for that. The Gloria Borger interview was clearly a hit piece, BUT RP should not have walked out like he did. The fact he wasn't prepared in a better way, and the FACT they still have not held a press conference on the issue is really beyond me. Herman Cain was out in FULL defense over his supposedly false "accusations", but the RP campaign basically allowed him to be slandered for 2 full weeks with very little defense...and the difference is the RP campaign SHOULD HAVE KNOWN it would/could be an issue...heck I emailed an adviser BEFORE the Gloria Borger interview, on December 13, letting him know RP better be prepared for ANYTHING in regards to the newsletters issue.

I went through this when I was with the Perot campaign. You NEVER let this kind of thing fester. I, and many others. begged the Ron Paul campaign to respond thoughtfully and effectively. They didn't. Simple as that. The campaign blew it. And yes, it lost Iowa for Paul.

It will be interesting to see how compromised the media is. There is no question, of course, that the media is compromised. Santorum has baggage galore. In theory, they should vet him on his ethics violations and voting record. My guess is they will not. It will be done by the other candidates sooner or later, but the media dream would be a Santorum vs Obama election. The resultant landslide would be hailed as a mandate for more attacks on liberty. Of course, Romney would only be marginally better, but Santorum is the worst Republican candidate on war and states rights. He is a perfect example of a Nationalist/right wing progressive. That's obvious in his constant rant on American exceptionalism.

The truth here is that Paul scares the hell out of the establishment, The cozy arrangement between the two "sides" is upset by Paul. That arrangement keeps the American people in a thrall of supposed ideology. The ideology is, of course, a myth designed to provide a safety valve for the fake democracy the USA has become. There is always the other "side" to vote for when the duplicity of the "side" that is in power is exposed. The media merely has to nudge the public into the pre approved candidates from the "other" party. Both "sides" are controlled by the same exact special interests. And funded by the same interests also.

The powerful in America do not want any changes. Why would they? Rulers never want to lose their control. Things are great for them. That's myopic. The system is running down, and sooner or later something has to break. It's like a metal cable being stretched passed it's limits. When the tension breaks, the ends tear up anything and anybody nearby. We know it's going to break. Just not when.

 

[Johnny Appleseed]

Its always funny on the Simpsons when the citizens of Springfield are so easily swayed but in real life not so funny.

I would much rather attack the media and discredit them than the other candidates.