Civilized society is very skin deep... News crew attacked in broad daylight for no reason

[Tal]

It is collectivist. It is seeing people as groups rather than as individuals, and it is against the rules.

I dont view blacks as a collective sharing certain traits, I view blacks as individuals that range greatly in personality and behavior, it just so happens that I believe certain personality types are more common among black people than white people.

Edit: and that isnt viewing things collectively, that is being scientific.

 

[Danke]

I dont view blacks as a collective sharing certain traits, I view blacks as individuals that range greatly in personality and behavior, it just so happens that I believe certain personality types are more common among black people than white people.

I suppose next you're gonna say most blacks are better dancers than most Asians or Caucasians?

Do you mean to say there might be some cultural traits associated with certain groups of people in this world?

 

[Pistis]

I dont view blacks as a collective sharing certain traits, I view blacks as individuals that range greatly in personality and behavior, it just so happens that I believe certain personality types are more common among black people than white people.

Edit: and that isnt viewing things collectively, that is being scientific.

Is that the kind of science that allowed the Nazis to justify murdering ethnic minorities, the disabled and mentally retarded because of certain personality traits common among these groups.

And while we're at it, is it fair to say that a certain murderous personality type was common among white German males living in the 1935-45 era, hmmm? <sarcasm>

 

[pcosmar]

and violence is never the answer --

Violence is not an answer. Violence is a Reality. Violence is a response. (one of several possible)
No, it is not the answer, but ignoring the reality does not make it go away.

and walking up to a crowd of angry, and upset people is inviting a negative response. Especially for a propaganda outlet like Fox.

 

[teacherone]

oooohhh ohhhh.

i love playing who can say the most ignorant collectivist statement?

my turn "white people are continuously conquering nations and building empires which are doomed to fail.

ergo---they are violent... and stupid!"

what do i win?

 

[Yieu]

Violence is not an answer. Violence is a Reality. Violence is a response. (one of several possible)
No, it is not the answer, but ignoring the reality does not make it go away.

and walking up to a crowd of angry, and upset people is inviting a negative response. Especially for a propaganda outlet like Fox.

Well, what strikes me as odd is that other news organizations walked up to them, were told they didn't want to be filmed, and the crowd allowed them to leave. But then out of nowhere the crowd didn't let these last two reporters leave. Fox certainly is propaganda, but I'm a big fan of non-violent resistance.

 

[Yieu]

oooohhh ohhhh.

i love playing who can say the most ignorant collectivist statement.

my turn "white people are continuously conquering nations and building empires which are doomed to fail.

ergo---they are violent... and stupid!"

what do i win?

I love it! Brilliant, beautiful, sarcasm.

That gets a +Rep. So does everyone else that called it out. A round of Rep for all who call such things out as they happen in the future sounds like a good policy.

 

[eOs]

You don't fuck with people when one of their family members was just murdered. You especially don't show up with giant camera gear. From both videos you can tell they rolled up on the family already taking footage and trying to ask questions. The correct response would of been to walk over and ask them if they wanted to talk without the gear. I think when people see you filming them mourning without their permission they can become offended.

 

[Cowlesy]

I cant say I was surprised when I saw it was a group of black people attacking them.

We don't do racial collectivism here. This forum is dedicated to grassroots activity reflective of Dr. Paul's ideas. He is not a racial collectivist. In fact, this forum is naturally, instead of by force of the State, is a diverse forum, ethnically.

+ Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans strictly as members of groups rather than individuals. It will not be tolerated here.

Consider yourself advised of the forum guideline.

 

[fisharmor]

I dont view blacks as a collective sharing certain traits, I view blacks as individuals that range greatly in personality and behavior, it just so happens that I believe certain personality types are more common among black people than white people.

Edit: and that isnt viewing things collectively, that is being scientific.

How many black people are in the whole of Denmark, exactly?
I work with a black guy from Jamaica, three black guys from Sierra Leone, a black guy from Botswana, and a black woman from America.
They're all pretty even tempered... but more to the point, they're from all over the world, and from various different socioeconomic backgrounds.
What you and I are doing in our assessments might be empirical, but I wouldn't go so far as to say "scientific".

I do hope you reconsider your position.

 

[Yieu]

You don't fuck with people when one of their family members was just murdered. You especially don't show up with giant camera gear. From both videos you can tell they rolled up on the family already taking footage and trying to ask questions. The correct response would of been to walk over and ask them if they wanted to talk without the gear. I think when people see you filming them mourning without their permission they can become offended.

True, it would have been wiser to have the equipment off in the first place, then ask if they want to speak. I don't believe violence is an appropriate response, but it was rude to have walked up already filming. The filming after the attack was wise though, because at that point they were filming assault, which is video evidence.

 

[Yieu]

How many black people are in the whole of Denmark, exactly?
I work with a black guy from Jamaica, three black guys from Sierra Leone, a black guy from Botswana, and a black woman from America.
They're all pretty even tempered... but more to the point, they're from all over the world, and from various different socioeconomic backgrounds.
What you and I are doing in our assessments might be empirical, but I wouldn't go so far as to say "scientific".

I do hope you reconsider your position.

We don't do racial collectivism here. This forum is dedicated to grassroots activity reflective of Dr. Paul's ideas. He is not a racial collectivist. In fact, this forum is naturally, instead of by force of the State, is a diverse forum, ethnically.

+ Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans strictly as members of groups rather than individuals. It will not be tolerated here.

Consider yourself advised of the forum guideline.

Aaand, all out of Rep for today from just this thread, for the posts that were defending Dr. Paul's dignity and good name here on our forum.

 

[Tal]

I suppose next you're gonna say most blacks are better dancers than most Asians or Caucasians?

Well I dunno about dancing but yes in general I think the percentage of blacks that are athletically gifted is higher among blacks than whites or asians, I dont think its a coincidence that 70% of NFL players are black or that 80% of NBL players are black also.

That saying ''White men cant jump'' might be said in jest but I think there is some truth to it.

Do you mean to say there might be some cultural traits associated with certain groups of people in this world?

Yes I believe that alot of black families tend to value athletic performance over for example intellectual performance and I guess you can call that culture.

Is that the kind of science that allowed the Nazis to justify murdering ethnic minorities, the disabled and mentally retarded because of certain personality traits common among these groups.

First of all the Nazi beliefs when it came to race where incredibly crude and erronous (they were collectivist unlike me) and second of all just because I believe in some theory doesnt mean I wanna kill anyone or discriminate against anyone, im a very tolerant and friendly person in general.

Its not like this theory is that uncommon, I mean my approach to races is the accepted mainstream scientific theory when it comes to classifying and describing dog races for example, but because people want to be politically correct they are willing to sacrifice science and truth on the altar of political correctness.

And while we're at it, is it fair to say that a certain murderous personality type was common among white German males living in the 1935-45 era, hmmm? <sarcasm>

I wouldnt call it murderous but yeah I think alot Germans (and Russians and Chinese and alot of other ethnic groups) tend to have more of an inclination towards collectivism and this collectivism and totallitarianism was what got people killed in Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia for example.

I dont think im one of the people with this inclination though since my grandfather was one of roughly a thousand danish police officers that got sent to Buchenwald concentration camp because they were hostile towards the Nazi occupiers and I have never been a fan of collectivism either myself.

 

[fisharmor]

Well I dunno about dancing but yes in general I think the percentage of blacks that are athletically gifted is higher among blacks than whites or asians, I dont think its a coincidence that 70% of NFL players are black or that 80% of NBL players are black also.

How many black olympic-class swimmers can you name?
Yet is that not athletic?
How is it that Latinos and Asians dominate lighter weight boxing?
Ice Hockey, anyone?

 

[BamaAla]

There are certain subcultures in this country that feel that violence is an appropriate answer to many situations, so this doesn't surprise me in the least.

 

[fisharmor]

There are certain subcultures in this country that feel that violence is an appropriate answer to many situations, so this doesn't surprise me in the least.

You know, if I wasn't at work I'd find the video of Geraldo when he was interviewing some guy in the KKK, where Geraldo is the one who started throwing punches, and the Klansmen were the ones who broke it up.

 

[BamaAla]

You know, if I wasn't at work I'd find the video of Geraldo when he was interviewing some guy in the KKK, where Geraldo is the one who started throwing punches, and the Klansmen were the ones who broke it up.

Absolutely. It isn't racial; its cultural. I grew up in one of the more violent cultures in the country (poor-southern-rural.)

 

[daviddee]

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[Captain Shays]

On the same token, the friends and family could have said "look. we're grieving the loss of our loved one and we don't want to be filmed or interviewed right now. If you insist on doing a story on this, could you please do it from across the street like the other media outlet over there"?.
That's what we did when my step son was shot and killed and the media respected it and went about 100 yards away. They still filmed it and put in on TV but they didn't get in our faces.
No one from our family got in their face right away and shouted "So Wutchya gonna doo bitch"

 

[specsaregood]

On the same token, the friends and family could have said "look. we're grieving the loss of our loved one and we don't want to be filmed or interviewed right now. If you insist on doing a story on this, could you please do it from across the street like the other media outlet over there"?

So what you are saying is that members of the media are lacking in normal inter-personal relationship skills, not famililiar with normal human emotions and instead must be treated like little kids and trained on proper behavior in such circumstances?

I'd wager this crew thinks twice next time they are in a similar situation.