Civil War Breaks Out in L.A. County GOP btwn Neocons and RP supporters

That would be a viable third party. Starting a party from the ground up doesn't work. There would need to be a reason to do this as well. Like Republicans post-2012 would have to vote for bailouts, ignoring the 'Tea Party' wing of the party.

Haven't the Republicans already alienated the "Tea Party Wing?" Why should the Tea Party Wing wait until post 2012?
 
Haven't the Republicans already alienated the "Tea Party Wing?" Why should the Tea Party Wing wait until post 2012?

Because the tea partiers have a chance to get some good conservatives in the Congress for 2010. If the party fails them again then there could be a huge uproar.
 
Because the tea partiers have a chance to get some good conservatives in the Congress for 2010. If the party fails them again then there could be a huge uproar.

If we fail in 2010 and 2012 there won't be a Union left. This is both good and bad, more bad.
 
If we give up, they've fucked us. The two-party system is stacked against any other kind of candidate. I can't believe you're willing to just throw in the towel at the first sign of resistance. Who thought this was going to be easy? I'm glad we're actually at the point where they have to fight us.

not in colorado it isn't , depends on your state, all politics is local, so what happens outside of colorado does not apply to colorado. not one person said we are throwing in the towel. the fact is the gop are the ones throwing the game...
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note i am still a registered republican but i will vote against any neo-con republican no matter what lies they say. they(gop) have 0 credibility. they better start asking Ron Paul or the gop is screwed by themselves. like i have said the gop will alienate themselves and are doing a grade A job at doing it..
 
That would be a viable third party. Starting a party from the ground up doesn't work. There would need to be a reason to do this as well. Like Republicans post-2012 would have to vote for bailouts, ignoring the 'Tea Party' wing of the party.

it wouldn't be a new party per say. it would be a new coalition that included all the 3rd parties and ron paul republicans and tp/lp/cp and indys etc etc. the new party would be a new brandname made up of a uniting platform aka ron pauls platform.

if we formed the proper political coalition, if the gop refuses to change. then the gop will become a marginalized 3rd party overnight as a new brandname and platform unites the greens/lp/cp/tp/indys/ron paul dems/ron paul republicans and various other supporters. starting a party from the ground up works, ask the republican party. you keep trying to imply it cannot be done ,but if that was the case. their would never have been a republican party, never say never. if the gop doesn't shape up, they will be shipped out asap(like the whigs) as they should be!!!!!

Ron Paul 2012 or ELSE!!!
 
The argument for reforming the Republican Party is the same as saying that the Founding Fathers (and Mothers) were wrong in their actions to form a new country because they should have tried harder to reform the British Government. I think that no one would agree that they showed a "belly up" attitude to just "running away" from the British Empire.

They understood two key things, Entrenchment and Power. Those who have power will always do whatever is in their power to keep it. The republican establishment that controls the GOP will never give up their control of it, they would rather kill it than see it returned to their rightful owners.

Also, 1/3rd of the actively voting public identifies themselves as GOP. A large chunk of those voters vote GOP for the same reason they may go to Church every sunday (which is not a bad thing), that's just the way it is. They vote republican because they just do, they always have, everyone they know and are related to has, and it is an immutable force of reality against which no assault by reason or logic or heart can ever change. Those are the entrenched who will never change. There are the same number, roughly, maybe a bit more, on the Democratic side as well.

The rest of the voters are feeling around in the dark. We liberty minded folk have gotten their attention, they have perked their heads up in the dark, stopped grasping for a few seconds, and are hearing us call out from a distance "freedom!" But the "bright lights" of the two halves of the Federalist party still shine like close suns. To these lost, changeable folks, we do not appear to be serious yet. We will have to mimic the structure of a serious, united party, without the inherent ideological corruption, before we will ever be able to guide these lost and misinformed Americans back to shore again.
 
If you would like to save this country and restore what we have lost. you need to be willing to give up what you hold dearest. Your Life,liberty and property.

Only then will you really be in the fight !!
 
As I've said around here for a while. The GOP doesn't want us. If we haven't made any headway by 2012 it's time to turn Independant.

That would give the the third party too much power, sort of like the king maker party. I'm down with that idea, more than ever almost half of America is fed up with both major parties' manipulations.
 
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