Chuck Baldwin Follows the CP

[revolutionman]

Ron Paul goes out of his way to differentiate between his personal beliefs and his political policy.

Dr. Paul says "I don't support abortion, but more importantly i recognize it to be a states rights issue, the citizens of the individual states should be allowed to reach their own consensus. Its not within the Constitutional power of the federal government to dictate to the states how they regard abortion."

Chuck Baldwin says "I will force America to end abortion. if the law I support does not pass, i will stop funding security for abortion clinics. *. Either way abortion will end."

That asterisk symbolizes the implication that Chuck Baldwin intends on unleashing a horde of fanatics to terrorize abortion clinics if he does not get his way.

he's gonna repeal funding for security and the clinics will automatically shut down?

I've seen abortion clinics before, its not like Ancient China with the Mongols beating at the Great Wall. Some times there are some protesters, but nothing serious. So there would need to be a serious catalyst to shut those clinics down, removing funding will not be enough.

 

[Neil Kiernan Stephenson]

When you refer to Homosexuality as a "behavior" and make statements that you will remove laws that designate actions against these people as "hate crimes" because you want to remove restrictions against people voicing their displeasure with homosexuals, that is an indication that you hate them.

Plain and simple, you cannot be "for freedom" and not want equal rights for everyone.

And more specifically, what people decide to do with their own bodies.

 

[jmdrake]

When you refer to Homosexuality as a "behavior" and make statements that you will remove laws that designate actions against these people as "hate crimes" because you want to remove restrictions against people voicing their displeasure with homosexuals, that is an indication that you hate them.

Plain and simple, you cannot be "for freedom" and not want equal rights for everyone.

And more specifically, what people decide to do with their own bodies.

You are engaging in circular reasoning of the worst kind. Ron Paul doesn't support hate crimes laws. Does that mean he hates gays, blacks, Jews etc? Or does it mean that he supports the first amendment? Do YOU support the first amendment?

 

[Christianalwaysg124RP]

I won't to point out that Ron Paul himself is not only against federal funding of aborition, but he was against Nancy Reagan for asking from federal government money for stem cell research. The statements you have quoted of Chuck Baldwin's only show his similarities in policy to Dr. Paul's.



Also, it is up to debate as to whether Baldwin and Paul actually beleive in seperation of church and state. There are so many different definitions of seperation of church and state. As well as different philosophical statements concerning seperation of church. The question remains, what type of seperation. For example, Paul himself is passionate about the Christian doctrine of a "just war." For believing in it, it is subject to debate as to whether he beleives in seperation of church and state. On one hand, he is bringing the bible and Christian tradition into the issue. On the other hand, he is simply saying that he won't put our whole military in immoral wars. Thomas Jefferson(who didn't believe in Christian idea of God, being a deist) stated similar things as congressmen Paul and Baldwin do on Christian rights in the "Virginia Decleration of Religious Freedom."

 

[Neil Kiernan Stephenson]

You are engaging in circular reasoning of the worst kind. Ron Paul doesn't support hate crimes laws. Does that mean he hates gays, blacks, Jews etc? Or does it mean that he supports the first amendment? Do YOU support the first amendment?

Two different reasons.

Ron Paul doesn't want to see hate crime laws because he doesn't want there to be "special" crimes.

The Constitution Party Platform doesn't want to see hate crime laws because they want to be allowed to show hate towards gays.

 

[Kade]

Right. Ron Paul never owned slaves nor fathered children with an underage slave mistress. Also this isn't the "ThomasJeffersonForums.com", sorry to break the news to you.

So, by your logic, Ron Paul has more respect for Blacks because he can't have slaves? Ron Paul may be an intelligent man, but he is no Thomas Jefferson. Sorry again.