Christians For Ron Paul TIME To Step Up

I am an Evangelical Christian who supports Dr. Ron Paul.

What baffles me the most about evangelicals not supporting Paul is that besides Perry (who will be out soon), Paul is the only Evangelical Christian in the race. There are two Mormons and two Catholics (and very slimy ones at that), and evangelical Christians are supporting them?!?!

I think it should be pointed out that Paul is the only evangelical in the running. Also, most Christians are not aware of the fact that Ron Paul will be, in his own words, the most pro-life President in history. It's also important to point out that by cutting all foreign aid, Paul will be helping Israel, since we currently give more money to Israel's enemies than we give to Israel.

I think EVERY Ron Paul supporter should also be a member of their local Tea Party. I am. I'm amazed that it's more of a prayer group than a political group. They give me a hard time because they know I support Ron Paul. I'm a member of the Tea Party Facebook and we post articles, argue and whatever (like here LOL).

I was rushed, ticked and had just finished reading this thread, so I copied and pasted what you said! (very nice point BTW, I only steal the best stuff LOL)

NOW, a member is asking me all about Ron Paul. Amazed that he can be a Christian and "not support Israel." I told her that Ron Paul DOES support Israel and it's only media lies that says he doesn't. (Guess she's seen enough media lies this election to know that's possible. LOL)

It seems, now that she knows he's a Christian, she's willing to find out more! I'm flabbergasted, but it's a good kind.

I went searching and couldn't find it -- but finally found Ron Paul's "statement of faith" at www.RonPaul2012.com under "issues."

Now, I'm searching for a video of Judge Napolitano talking about Israel and Ron Paul's stance. The Judge said it much better than Ron Paul ever has.

Anyway, God is working through you -- and I wanted you to know. He works through us all -- but this one time -- I give credit to Him through you.
Thanks!
 
Bump...

I think flyers on the cars in church parking lots would be a good thing - but what needs to be targeted to them?
 
"I get to my God through Christ. Christ to me...is a man of peace. He is...he is for peace. He is not for war. He does not justify preemptive declared war. I strongly believe that there is a Christian doctrine of 'just war' and I believe this nation has drifted from that, no matter what the rationals are, we have drifted from that and it is very very dangerous and I see in many ways it un-Christian...and to justify what we do in the name of Christianity I think is very dangerous and not a part of what Christianity is all about. Christ came here for spiritual reasons - not secular war and boundaries and geography. And yet we are now dedicating so much of our aggresive activity in the name of God. But God, he is the Prince of Peace. That is what I see from my God and through Christ. I vote for peace."

-Ron Paul

The video that contains that quote can be found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpW5JhOJA7E
 
Bump...

I think flyers on the cars in church parking lots would be a good thing - but what needs to be targeted to them?

Above I posted an excerpt from one of Ron Paul''s speeches along with a video. Maybe that could be included?

I would like to present some quotes from our founding fathers as well which show that Ron Paul's position on foreign policy is more like them but then I would want to include by contrast quotes from progressives like Woodrow Wilson who the current flock of GOP candidates are more like.

For instance:


John Quincy Adams on U.S. Foreign Policy (1821)
October 2001
And now, friends and countrymen, if the wise and learned philosophers of the elder world, the first observers of mutation and aberration, the discoverers of maddening ether and invisible planets, the inventors of Congreve rockets and Shrapnel shells, should find their hearts disposed to enquire what has America done for the benefit of mankind?
Let our answer be this: America, with the same voice which spoke herself into existence as a nation, proclaimed to mankind the inextinguishable rights of human nature, and the only lawful foundations of government. America, in the assembly of nations, since her admission among them, has invariably, though often fruitlessly, held forth to them the hand of honest friendship, of equal freedom, of generous reciprocity.
She has uniformly spoken among them, though often to heedless and often to disdainful ears, the language of equal liberty, of equal justice, and of equal rights.
She has, in the lapse of nearly half a century, without a single exception, respected the independence of other nations while asserting and maintaining her own.
She has abstained from interference in the concerns of others, even when conflict has been for principles to which she clings, as to the last vital drop that visits the heart.
She has seen that probably for centuries to come, all the contests of that Aceldama the European world, will be contests of inveterate power, and emerging right.
Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and her prayers be.
But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy.
She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all.
She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.
She will commend the general cause by the countenance of her voice, and the benignant sympathy of her example.
She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy, and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom.
The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from liberty to force....
She might become the dictatress of the world. She would be no longer the ruler of her own spirit....
[America's] glory is not dominion, but liberty. Her march is the march of the mind. She has a spear and a shield: but the motto upon her shield is, Freedom, Independence, Peace. This has been her Declaration: this has been, as far as her necessary intercourse with the rest of mankind would permit, her practice.
When John Quincy Adams served as U. S. Secretary of State, he delivered this speech to the U.S. House of Representatives on July 4, 1821, in celebration of American Independence Day.


I have always given it as my decided opinion that no nation had a right to inter-meddle in the internal concerns of another; and that, if this country could, consistent with its engagements, maintain a strict neutrality and thereby preserve peace. George Washington - Letter to James Monroe, August 25, 1796


Observe good faith and justice toward all nations. Cultivate peace and harmony with all. ...The nation which indulges toward another an habitual hatred or an habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest. George Washington - Farewell Address, September 17, 1797

Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none should be our motto. Thomas Jefferson - First Inaugural Address, March 4, 1801

If there be one principle more deeply rooted than any other in the mind of every American, it is that we should have nothing to do with conquest. Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826) Letter to William Short, 1791

We certainly cannot deny to other nations that principle whereon our own government is founded, that every nation has a right to govern itself internally under what forms it pleases, and to change these forms at its own will. Thomas Jefferson - To Thomas Pinckney, December 30, 1792

Europe, by her arms and by her negotiations, by force and by fraud, has extended her dominion over them all, Africa, Asia, an America have successively felt her domination. The superiority she has long maintained has tempted her to plume herself as the Mistress of the World, and to consider the rest of mankind as created for her benefit.*
Alexander Hamilton on Colonialism, The Federalist Papers 1787

My ardent desire is to keep the United States free from political connections with every other country, to see them independent of all and under the influence of none. George Washington (Letter to Patrick Henry, October 9, 1795)
 
I hope for the day that religion is no longer a factor in politics. It's extremely divisive and it often impairs judgement. I hope to never know what a politician's religion is anymore than I know what kind of underwear they prefer.
 
What should be the main points that we incorporate to win the support of Evangelicals over from Romney, Gingrich and Santorum?

My two cents; They ALL say or imply that without the United States Israel could get destroyed by their enemies like Iran, Syria etc. That IS NOT biblical AT ALL. In fact in my opinion it's actually a form of blasphemy and needs to be stopped whether RP wins South Carolina, or not. Christians are being deceived by this line!
 
hey, ya'll... after viewing that Rick Santorum video, Captain Shays is 100% right. even if RP doesn't get elected, we, as Christians need to stomp this idea of "american christian imperialism" into dust.

and i believe that we Christ followers should all stand in agreement on this: in the Name of Jesus Christ, I rebuke Rick Santorum and the evil spewing out of his mouth that reveals the wickedness that lies in his heart!!!

Jesus says in Matthew 15:18 & 19 that "But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man. For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies."

I pray that we Christ followers would guard our own hearts from such evil, and that we would have righteous anger towards those who spew such filth in the name of the Lord, but that we would not let the root of bitterness take plant in our own hearts. That we, like our Creator, would be patient in affliction, but that we would have His boldness to proclaim a wrong for a wrong and that we would be ready in season to give reason for our belief. I pray that we Christ followers would hold each other accountable-- bearing each others burdens in love, exhorting, rebuking and encouraging to build each other up so that we can be wise bearers of the Gospel. Amen.

the days are evil indeed.
 
2 Things that aren't discussed on Fox News:

1. JUST WAR
2. ABORTION

When it comes to the "Why and How War" Ron Paul follows the JUST WAR principle......which when broken down is very much honorable in and line with many Biblical teachings. I've walked through many Christians this principle and after real consideration, completely changed their thinking.

When it comes to the Abortion topic among Christians, I always like to ask what most in the GOP have done on this issue, or WHAT IS the actual plan of the candidate. People are speachless because most of the jokers have no plan. However, RON PAUL does! He essentially would like to overturn ROE vs WADE on the premise that LIFE starts at conception and THEN let each state handle and deal with that issue on a state by state basis. Being that RP has given birth as an OB Doctor, he understands LIFE. What other candidates have a plan to overturn Roe vs Wade? This SHOULD be a BIGGEE issue, but it's not discussed on Fox News.
 
I am a Christain as well. Biggest thing I see in my circles is that folks are worried about us becoming the next Sodom & Gomorrah. They fail to understand that Ron Paul is for limited federal government, and take what they hear on the news as him being for no government period. They assume local government elimination is his plan as well. They have visions of nude bars on every street corner, no zoning, unedited language on every tv channel and radio station, etc. Many Christians in fact want their beliefs manadated onto others so that they don't even have to 'see' that behavior when they are out and about.
 
hey, ya'll... after viewing that Rick Santorum video, Captain Shays is 100% right. even if RP doesn't get elected, we, as Christians need to stomp this idea of "american christian imperialism" into dust.

and i believe that we Christ followers should all stand in agreement on this: in the Name of Jesus Christ, I rebuke Rick Santorum and the evil spewing out of his mouth that reveals the wickedness that lies in his heart!!!

Jesus says in Matthew 15:18 & 19 that "But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man. For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies."

I pray that we Christ followers would guard our own hearts from such evil, and that we would have righteous anger towards those who spew such filth in the name of the Lord, but that we would not let the root of bitterness take plant in our own hearts. That we, like our Creator, would be patient in affliction, but that we would have His boldness to proclaim a wrong for a wrong and that we would be ready in season to give reason for our belief. I pray that we Christ followers would hold each other accountable-- bearing each others burdens in love, exhorting, rebuking and encouraging to build each other up so that we can be wise bearers of the Gospel. Amen.

the days are evil indeed.

Thank you and spot on. To amplify it's so obvious to me that Christians are deceived to the point that we are doing the bidding of the evil one. We're being played by the globalist elites and being lead like we have hooks in our noses right into a one world government that is some day going to kill us en mass
 
Thank you and spot on. To amplify it's so obvious to me that Christians are deceived to the point that we are doing the bidding of the evil one. We're being played by the globalist elites and being lead like we have hooks in our noses right into a one world government that is some day going to kill us en mass

the american exceptionalism imperialistic christianity is very difficult to call out and denounce. it's been so programmed into so many professing christians and is further reinforced by the US government's military might and US fiat currency, credit-based, debt-driven economy that has led to a life of ultra comfort and zero persecution.

the people that refer to themselves as "watchers on the wall" are the ones supporting and encouraging the US interventionist policy. that interventionism has been a tool by which satan has/is using to lead the world into a consolidation of centralized power-- where nations are merely symbolic in nature and there is no sovereignty-- especially that of the individual-- and we WILL be persecuted.

"Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places]. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand." Ephesians 6
 
Yeah. I've also read his book with Schaeffer and seen the video series. http://www.amazon.com/Whatever-Happ...r_1_11?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1326577018&sr=1-11

Yep, I've read it and I saw the film series. I'll tell you how I saw the film series and the How Shall We Then Live film series: on an old reel to reel in one of my college classes:). I studied under Dr. Glenn Martin at Indiana Wesleyan University when he was still alive. He was a Francis Schaeffer devotee.
 
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