About the divisive nature of these forums!
Guys, people have been distracting from the Ron Paul Revolution a lot lately. I'm kind of tired of coming to these forums lately and hearing the rants against Christians. Apparently if the internets are true, I'm a moral policeman who wants to turn America into a theocracy and make everyone be a Christian.
Well, look, we aren't all like that. You guys that rant about Christians have scared away Christian supporters. I know two or three fellow Christians that have been scared away by the actions of a few of the supporters, not necessarily here. Why are you guys doing this? Its almost like you are trying to sabotage Ron Paul's campaign, and insult the very religion that Ron Paul is a part of.
If you are a non-Christian, and you feel that you cannot trust yourself enough to not rant about how stupid Christian people are, don't even think about hitting reply in a topic. Don't talk to that Christian person in real life about Ron Paul.
Maybe if you took the time to explain to these Christian people what a liberty-minded Christian would do in terms of government you could win them over. That'd certainly be a lot better than sitting here on the forums angsting over how the "Christian sheep" have stolen the election.
First of all, I'm kind of wary of us trying to get the federal government to do our job for us. Thats sort of what I feel like we as Christians are really doing in government as of lately. I'm not talking about voting against what you believe, and things like that. Definitely, vote for the candidate that fits your ideals the closest. However, we really push Congress and the Judiciary to enforce our morals.
I have a problem with this. First off, I think we should be careful about the way we go about bringing morality to this nation. Doing it with the iron first of the Federal government is a scary road to turn down. Just think of the abuses the government could get away with if they had not only the power but the moral high ground to do it as well!
Also, consider how non-Christians perceive us. If they are REQUIRED to act in the same fashion as we are, how are we any different from they are? Obviously we know the difference, but a non-Christian person would feel no compulsion to make any commitment, and they'd see no real reason.
It really goes back to the Pharisees and their desire to live a holy life by doing it themselves. Sure, if we had a law against lying, people wouldn't lie. But think about it, does that really make them more holy? Only the desire to live a life like Christ's life and your belief in Him saves you. So when we force our ideals on people, you've got to think, is that man trying to live holy..or is he trying to not get arrested/fined?
In any case, I've been rather unhappy with the Federal government's decisions on social issues. I mean, look at Roe vs. Wade. Do we really want something like THAT case on the books for all the things we hold dear to us as Christians?
We should be shining God's love, not trying to force the Federal govt to do so.
Guys, people have been distracting from the Ron Paul Revolution a lot lately. I'm kind of tired of coming to these forums lately and hearing the rants against Christians. Apparently if the internets are true, I'm a moral policeman who wants to turn America into a theocracy and make everyone be a Christian.
Well, look, we aren't all like that. You guys that rant about Christians have scared away Christian supporters. I know two or three fellow Christians that have been scared away by the actions of a few of the supporters, not necessarily here. Why are you guys doing this? Its almost like you are trying to sabotage Ron Paul's campaign, and insult the very religion that Ron Paul is a part of.
If you are a non-Christian, and you feel that you cannot trust yourself enough to not rant about how stupid Christian people are, don't even think about hitting reply in a topic. Don't talk to that Christian person in real life about Ron Paul.
Maybe if you took the time to explain to these Christian people what a liberty-minded Christian would do in terms of government you could win them over. That'd certainly be a lot better than sitting here on the forums angsting over how the "Christian sheep" have stolen the election.
First of all, I'm kind of wary of us trying to get the federal government to do our job for us. Thats sort of what I feel like we as Christians are really doing in government as of lately. I'm not talking about voting against what you believe, and things like that. Definitely, vote for the candidate that fits your ideals the closest. However, we really push Congress and the Judiciary to enforce our morals.
I have a problem with this. First off, I think we should be careful about the way we go about bringing morality to this nation. Doing it with the iron first of the Federal government is a scary road to turn down. Just think of the abuses the government could get away with if they had not only the power but the moral high ground to do it as well!
Also, consider how non-Christians perceive us. If they are REQUIRED to act in the same fashion as we are, how are we any different from they are? Obviously we know the difference, but a non-Christian person would feel no compulsion to make any commitment, and they'd see no real reason.
It really goes back to the Pharisees and their desire to live a holy life by doing it themselves. Sure, if we had a law against lying, people wouldn't lie. But think about it, does that really make them more holy? Only the desire to live a life like Christ's life and your belief in Him saves you. So when we force our ideals on people, you've got to think, is that man trying to live holy..or is he trying to not get arrested/fined?
In any case, I've been rather unhappy with the Federal government's decisions on social issues. I mean, look at Roe vs. Wade. Do we really want something like THAT case on the books for all the things we hold dear to us as Christians?
We should be shining God's love, not trying to force the Federal govt to do so.
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