Christian Yoga? It's a Stretch...(Is Yoga Demonic? Yes, it is.)

[dannno]

How do you live like and follow Him without believing in Him?

Probably the same way I follow Ron Paul's political philosophy without believing he is God. By example.

 

[eduardo89]

Probably the same way I follow Ron Paul's political philosophy without believing he is God. By example.

Unless you accept Him you are not following Him.

 

[dannno]

Unless you accept Him you are not following Him.

Ron Paul?

 

[Noble Savage]

What about gluttony? Smorgasbords were made for Baptist and Pentecostals.

 

[wrestlingwes_8]

Lol @ whoever thinks yoga is demonic...seriously people, just ignore these fools that spew their pompous Christian teachings. I would hardly take advice from a group that uses a man nailed to a cross as their prime symbol. Symbols, along with everything else in this world that we interpret as "real", carry certain energies; and that particular one certainly doesn't portray love and understanding. Only suffering and horrific imagery. Jesus would be ashamed at how his message has been twisted and skewed for the benefit of a few power hungry people. This plague isn't specific to one religion, however; nearly every religion has been stripped of it's original meanings.

 

[hard@work]

Ugh. Fortunately I think He has forgiven the lot of ya. And at any rate I'd stretch and break bread with any one of you. Peacefully, lovingly, hopefully, and knowingly. And again, I hope you treat the body that He has given you as it so much deserves. You are but a vessel for something much more. If you are going to berate one another over the conditioning and refinement of the clay you're made of? It better be some very well tended clay.

My advice? Eat better today, go for a walk, and pray.

 

[Simple]

I don’t think one can "believe" in Christ and still be Master of his or her own life. A heart that is centered in Christ tries to do the Will of the Father.

As Jesus pointed out in Matthew 7:21 ""Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven."

John 14:15 “If you love me, you will keep my commandments."

The verse speaks to those who proclaim Christ. Yet reject him by their life and actions.

Sounds like you follow the Yoga tradition to me:
Isvara pranidhana -- Surrender of the self to God. Acknowledgement that there is a higher principle in the universe than one's own small self.

 

[Yieu]

I find it funny people with your attitude. You want to believe in an all-powerful God that can by definition do anything it wants; yet want to constrain God to your own pitiful human thinking within the bounds of earthly logic.

If an all-powerful God wanted to make 2+2=4 and at the exact same time make 2+2=5, he could. Stop thinking so limitedly.

It's worth quoting.. Damn right.


I always find it hilarious to hear about the god that I often do. The god who was obviously invented or restricted by man's ridiculously rigid understanding of the universe.


The real god of this universe is beyond your comprehension.. He is not a guy up there shaking his fist at you with threats.

And now to back that up with scripture.

These are the last few verses from the chapter titled "The Opulence of the Absolute", in which God attempts to describe in human terms His all-powerful greatness.

Chapter 10, Verse 40.
O mighty conqueror of enemies, there is no end to My divine manifestations. What I have spoken to you is but a mere indication of My infinite opulences.

Chapter 10, Verse 41.
Know that all beautiful, glorious, and mighty creations spring from but a spark of My splendor.

Chapter 10, Verse 42.
But what need is there, Arjuna, for all this detailed knowledge? With a single fragment of Myself I pervade and support this entire universe.

From Chapter 7, titled "Knowledge of the Absolute", the Lord explains how well us mortal humans know Him:

Chapter 7, Verse 3.
Out of many thousands among men, one may endeavor for perfection, and of those who have achieved perfection, hardly one knows Me in truth.

Chapter 7, Verse 7.
O conqueror of wealth [Arjuna], there is no Truth superior to Me. Everything rests upon Me, as pearls are strung on a thread.

I mean this dude rules everything. You can't box Him into our limited human understanding.

 

[Yieu]

The title of this thread is quite curious, considering that under the true definition of Yoga, Christianity IS Yoga.

Yoga means having a relationship with God.

 

[Yieu]

I very much like that quote. . It reminds me of the God I worship. I never said there were not truths to be found in the Bhagadva Gita. I am only saying that God came once down to earth as the Lamb of God in the Person of Jesus Christ, and that only through Him are we saved and are raised from the dead.

Thank you. I think it might remind you of God because God spoke those words.

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On an unrelated note... so as to avoid making another consecutive post, I am editing this one:

There is no such thing as "My God" and "Your God". This is something I have heard some refer to in the past.

There is only one God. And He is Lord over all of us.

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Another edit... I'm catching up here:

It can be condensced into two sentences

Matthew 4:10, "You shall worship the Lord your God and Him only shall you serve."

John 14:6, "Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

As I understand these verses, the first one says to worship and serve God. That is good, I do that.

The second one, Jesus states that he is a way to go to God... that he is a mediator between humans and God.

I believe that he is what he claims to be, but I don't believe a merciful God would ever leave only one path to Himself, if he wanted us to come to Him, and He does.

 

[Simple]

The title of this thread is quite curious, considering that under the true definition of Yoga, Christianity IS Yoga.

Yoga means having a relationship with God.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Yieu again =\ I love your outlook.

 

[Yieu]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Yieu again =\ I love your outlook.

Thanks. But it's not just my outlook -- it's reality. Yoga is not stretches or exercises.

Yoga is a Sanskrit word which translates to "having a relationship with God".

Christians have a relationship with God.

Thus, being Christian means actively practicing Yoga, if you understand the correct definition of the word.

 

[MRoCkEd]

The second one, Jesus states that he is a way to go to God... that he is a mediator between humans and God.

I believe that he is what he claims to be, but I don't believe a merciful God would ever leave only one path to Himself, if he wanted us to come to Him, and He does.

John 14:6, "Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

He does not say he is a way. He says that he is the only way. If you disagree with this, that means you don't believe he is what he claims to be.

 

[Yieu]

John 14:6, "Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

He does not say he is a way. He says that he is the only way. If you disagree with this, that means you don't believe he is what he claims to be.

You are free to believe that, though I disagree with your assessment.

 

[specsaregood]

John 14:6, "Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

He does not say he is a way. He says that he is the only way. If you disagree with this, that means you don't believe he is what he claims to be.

And if you believe that Jesus is but one manifestation of God; then "me" is not limited to just that lone physical representation of Christ but rather all manifestations of God.

 

[Yieu]

And if you believe that Jesus is but one manifestation of God; then "me" is not limited to just that lone physical representation of Christ but rather all manifestations of God.

Thank you. I honestly do believe that Jesus could take me to God, if I chose that path. I do love and respect Jesus and his divinity. I just desire a slightly different relationship with God.

In the Bhakti-rasāmṛta-sindhu it is explained that ultimately, everyone has an individual relationship with God, and that there are several different "rasas" or "tastes/desires/preferences" for how one has their relationship with the Lord. But I won't get too far into that at this time, that is a rather esoteric text and concept and there is much to understand before this point.

 

[Yieu]

If you disagree with this, that means you don't believe he is what he claims to be.

I will further clarify what I meant in the post you are quoting.

I said:

The second one, Jesus states that he is a way to go to God... that he is a mediator between humans and God.

I believe that he is what he claims to be, but I don't believe a merciful God would ever leave only one path to Himself, if he wanted us to come to Him, and He does.

I was stating that I believe the verse states that he is a mediator between humans and God, and in the next sentence note that I agree that he is.

 

[eduardo89]

I was stating that I believe the verse states that he is a mediator between humans and God, and in the next sentence note that I agree that he is.

He is not claiming to be a mediator. He is saying that he is the mediator.

 

[Yieu]

He is not claiming to be a mediator. He is saying that he is the mediator.

I understand that is how you read it.

 

[Kotin]

He is not claiming to be a mediator. He is saying that he is the mediator.

No I'm sorry.. You are claiming that.

Do not, ever, assume to speak for Jesus..