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Sure seems that way. Why pray to them if they are not divine, you arent worshipping them or if they are not some type of minor god?
Christian Yoga? It's a Stretch...(Is Yoga Demonic? Yes, it is.)
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Sure seems that way. Why pray to them if they are not divine, you arent worshipping them or if they are not some type of minor god?
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so Hinduism became monotheistic and no one told me.
Who is the supreme God in Hinduism? And what do you make of the other Gods and Goddesses found in Hinduism? What is their value and role?
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We do not pray to them. We only pray to God the Father.
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saints are not Gods.
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We ask saints to pray for us because they are alive in Christ, for He is a God of the living, and though they have passed from this world, they are alive to Christ. It is the same reason why I ask my friend to pray for me. Neither my friend nor the saints are worshipped when we ask for their prayers. There is no difference between asking a friend to pray for us or asking a saint to pray for us, and indeed, the power of the prayers of the saints are quite powerful as has been witnessed by the Church.
I believe that Jesus and the Father are one, yes. But being "one with God" has a different meaning in Hinduism.
I believe that I am following the 1st commandment "Thou shalt have no other gods before me." 100%.
You disagree with that, it seems.
But it doesn't matter if you disagree, it only matters what God thinks of the matter.
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Exactly. Nor do we Catholics pray to saints or worship saints. We worship God, and God alone. We pray with saints and we ask them to pray for us, we ask for their intercession, we ask them to deliver our prayers to God as happens in Revelations 5:8.
We venerate and admire the saints for their faith and we seek to imitate them.
I do not think we disagree on that point. I think you disagree on that point, but I believe there is only one God, and we both worship Him.
Why do you insist on being exclusivist? Does it make you feel good inside to tell other people they are going to hell?
That sounds an awful lot like the Hindu concept of demigods.
I do not worship demigods, though. They are demigods. God is my object of worship.
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Here is a different perspective written by a former Hindu who is now an Orthodox Christian named Dr. Christina Mangala Frost. I personally don't have much of an opinion on the whole matter because I do not practice yoga nor does anyone in my family. Now, had I had someone in my family who is Orthodox Christian and practiced yoga, I might be more inclined in offering these warnings to them, namely, that it is frowned upon by the Church. As for others reading this, YMMV.
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I never said you are going to Hell. That is not for me to decide. But I disagree with you on these points and I'm letting you know and hopefully you will think about them, read Scripture and come to the same conclusion that I did. I hope and will pray that the Holy Spirit opens your eyes and that you come to accept Christ as your Savior. I would never take joy at someone going to Hell and I resent that acusation.
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you understand Christianity pretty well? Yet you seem to believe that all religious paths lead to God. Something that Jesus completely rejected. So in your understanding of Christianity you make Jesus out to be a liar. As he said that he was the only path.
you cannot have it both ways. Either Jesus was lying or he was telling the truth.
Hinduism was monotheistic before Christianity existed. It is just that no one happened to tell you.
It is a little known fact in the West. Maybe someone here wants to hide it, in order to more easily marginalize Hinduism.
There is only one Supreme God in Hinduism, and He has a limitless number of names. But if I were to get into His divine personality, you would not understand it and would reject it flat out, so it does not seem useful to discuss that.
To keep everything simple to understand, it is most accurate to simply state that we worship the same God, and that there is only one.
The demigods in Hinduism are not Gods. They are more like emperors of planets. They are beings that God has empowered for a certain purpose in His divine plan. But they are not God.
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Search for "I said a prayer to Saint" on google. I've heard many catholics say it in real life. clearly many catholics are praying to saints.
Do you believe that I will go to hell unless I worship exactly as you do?
Yeah, you did not state it outright, but where do you think people go if they don't worship God exactly as you think they should: i.e. declaring Jesus your personal savior and such.
I am not going to do that, so if you are saying that knowing I will not do that throughout my life, you think that I will not go to hell... then you're exceptionally awesome and I love you, man. If not, then we have a huuuuge disagreement. Because that would mean you believe I belong in hell.
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You will now say 10 Hail Mary's as penance for that little act of mendacity.
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They clearly do not understand what they are doing then. We do not worship Saints. Read TER's post up above, he explains it well.
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Praying does not mean worshiping. It means to communicate, to implore, to ask. We pray to saints just as I pray to my wife to let me get away with not doing the dishes tonight.
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