Chip In to Bail Out Roger Pion

[MelissaWV]

This is easy enough to solve, though.

People critical of the guy's actions should probably just not donate, and reflect on how a few people have a huge axe to grind on this issue one way or another.

People who think this guy is utterly awesome should pony up some money. I see a whole lot of supporters in this thread, but he's only at $600? Instead of arguing, you could promote this cause and spread the word, and put your money into it.

 

[MJU1983]

$943.20 between the two ChipIns which is a decent way to $5,000 (bond).

 

[qh4dotcom]

Not to mention that what you just mentioned is literally impossible. In the history of man, there has always been a demand for substances to abuse. And where there is demand, that is supply. Also, for the vast majority of human history, man could smoke a plant in peace. Only recently has it been determined that smoking a plant is cause for getting thrown in a rape cage.

The prehistoric cavemen smoked plants?

And no, I don't want to pay for imprisoning those who smoke plants. My property taxes are too high already.

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

This is easy enough to solve, though.

People critical of the guy's actions should probably just not donate, and reflect on how a few people have a huge axe to grind on this issue one way or another.

People who think this guy is utterly awesome should pony up some money. I see a whole lot of supporters in this thread, but he's only at $600? Instead of arguing, you could promote this cause and spread the word, and put your money into it.

For the record, I don't think he's awesome. I think he got pushed too far. That doesn't make anyone awesome. It makes them pushed too far.

 

[Expatriate]

The prehistoric cavemen smoked plants?

Heh, there's actually something I read about once called the Stoned Ape Theory that suggests that drug use (magic mushrooms etc) was the main reason for unusual brain development in early humans/hominids. Can't say if it's a good theory or not, but your post made me think of it.

 

[Revolution9]

This is easy enough to solve, though.

People critical of the guy's actions should probably just not donate, and reflect on how a few people have a huge axe to grind on this issue one way or another.

People who think this guy is utterly awesome should pony up some money. I see a whole lot of supporters in this thread, but he's only at $600? Instead of arguing, you could promote this cause and spread the word, and put your money into it.

I am getting two cheques this week. Current cash went to rent and bills. I would want the same done for me. Paying forward is what the term is I believe. Not that i own a tractor or anything..

Rev9

 

[Revolution9]

The prehistoric cavemen smoked plants?

And no, I don't want to pay for imprisoning those who smoke plants. My property taxes are too high already.

So..stop the law. The only way to do that is ignore it. If they press it then they should pay. This has gone on too long and is a deadly game. My cockatoo likes hemp. Wanna jail her too?? This is frikkin' ridiculous. You don't want liberty..you want to protect your bank account... "no more bailouts"..and keep the borg consensus machine manufacturing links to the chains you want us to wear.

Rev9

 

[Revolution9]

Heh, there's actually something I read about once called the Stoned Ape Theory that suggests that drug use (magic mushrooms etc) was the main reason for unusual brain development in early humans/hominids. Can't say if it's a good theory or not, but your post made me think of it.

An analog of THC created by a University of Calgary team was fed to rats and slices of their brain analyzed. They found that it was growing new dendrite trees rapidly. So it is literally mind expanding as it creates a larger and more detailed neural net of dendrite trees for processing sensual and thought data.

Rev9

 

[ShaneEnochs]

You have admitted never smoking it so you have no stance to make a correct judgement.

That's a red herring. Never once did I say smoking pot was wrong. I said it was illegal.

I could care less if the guy smoked pot. Good on him if he did. That's not the issue. The issue is he got caught doing something that is currently illegal (we don't like income taxes either, but we still have to pay them), and then he took inappropriate measures as revenge on those who were enforcing the law.

I know we have some anarchist here, but this country does have laws, and there is a process of repealing them. Running over squad cars in a tractor is not that process.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

No way. I sympathize for his marijuana arrest, but now the taxpayers are going to have to pay for 7 new police cruisers. Face it, he's an idiot. I'd rather give my money to liberty candidates or starving children.

There is that, but at the same time, I don't blame him. Action needs to be taken. It's the government's fault that all this money is being stolen from us to pay for these things. It's a drop in the bucket compared to the debt many PDs have already racked up. How long has Detroit been renting its police cars now?

 

[PaulConventionWV]

I'm not crazy. I'm just sick of "bullshit." Most people I know are sick of this same bullshit. It would be nice for the 75% of people who are sick of bullshit to stand up and say they're sick of bullshit. Now we have a guy who made that statement VERY clearly. Some of us can show some support, and some other people can keep pretending that it's ok if cops arrest a lot of people with bullshit charges about bullshit issues, but lay low and be happy it wasn't them.

If you let people tell you the RP people are "crazy," you're bowing down to the 10% politically active people, and ignoring the 50% who care... but those 50% decided it's useless and there's nothing they can do. Therefore, they don't vote, they don't get politically active in any way, and they just hide from the state and hope they aren't the next target. This could be their chance to throw a few measly dollars at something they believe in.


AND YOU TELL ME....

Why does he not deserve to be out on bond?

Why does he not deserve our support for standing up to oppressive government bullshit?

Do you think those police cars are used to run around the county being friendly to people?

I have a hard time finding anyone who tells me that their police interaction is friendly. If you think this forum is going to attract republicans and democrats who love law enforcement, but find this thread distasteful.... where are they? They've had more than 4 years to show up. Outside of friends in LE, I can't find anyone who supports the current state of LE, and even the ones I know don't. They just want to keep their pathetic jobs.

Funny that you should mention friendly encounters with the police. I just learned that the PDs in my area are having police night out, where police and mundanes hang out to better get to know the people whom protect and serve them, or at least that's what the advert says.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Considering that the tax payers are the ones responsible for his arrest for a victimless crime to begin with... I have zero sympathy for them

How are they responsible? Did they institute a federal ban on marijuana or make it illegal to resist arrest? I didn't think so..

 

[TheTexan]

How are they responsible? Did they institute a federal ban on marijuana or make it illegal to resist arrest? I didn't think so..

Actually, they did.

 

[JK/SEA]

ban tractors.

 

[dannno]

The prehistoric cavemen smoked plants?

I'm guessing they first ingested cannabis and mushrooms, then became enlightened enough to cause and control fires, then they put them in the fire in their cave and smoked them via hotbox.

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

Anyone know what happened today? Didn;t he have a hearing of some sort on the original charge?

There is also an (unconfirmed to me) address for his legal defense as well - to the law office. It still makes more sense to market by paypal/chipin and then send the money there if that is legit.

I have the basic design and working on site right now.

Here are more things I played with earlier today...

 

[pcosmar]

Anyone know what happened today? Didn;t he have a hearing of some sort on the original charge?

Was supposed to,, last I checked,,no news.

 

[TheTexan]

I know we have some anarchist here, but this country does have laws, and there is a process of repealing them. Running over squad cars in a tractor is not that process.

No, I'm fairly sure that is the process of repealing laws.

 

[Origanalist]

No, I'm fairly sure that is the process of repealing laws.

Nullification in it's simplest form.

 

[pcosmar]

Nullification in it's simplest form.

Can you cite examples of it's effectiveness.. (not single case,,but overturned law) ??

Opps,, misread ..
Jury Nullification should be the way bad law is addressed,, but the court system/Police industrial complex makes that unlikely.