Chinese navy begins US economic zone patrols

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The Chinese military has started operating within the US’s exclusive economic zone (EEZ), a move that could transform the dynamic between the dominant Pacific naval power and its main challenger.
Admiral Samuel Locklear, commander of US forces in the Pacific, on Sunday confirmed the revelation from a Chinese military delegate at the Shangri-La Dialogue, a high-level defence forum in Singapore, that the People’s Liberation Army Navy had started “reciprocating” the US Navy’s habit of sending ships and aircraft into the 200 nautical mile zone off China’s coast.


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Under international law, each country has the exclusive right to the economic resources inside a 200 nautical mile zone off its coast, a zone different from coastal states’ 12-mile national waters.

The US and most other countries interpret international law to allow a right of free passage for military vessels through the EEZ, but China disagrees and has long chided the US practice of frequent surveillance missions along the Chinese coast.

“They are, and we encourage their ability to do that,” said Adm Locklear about China’s claim that its military was making forays into the US EEZ. He added that, as the exclusive economic zones of all coastal states account for about one-third of the world’s oceans, attempts to hinder or block free passage through them would cripple military operations.

Adm Locklear declined to confirm how far exactly Chinese military vessels had come. But delegates said that, from what is known about the usual movements of the People’s Liberation Army Navy, it was most likely that it had extended its radius of patrols and exercises to near Guam rather than Hawaii or the US mainland.

The disagreement between Beijing and Washington over the “rules of the road” inside the EEZ has triggered two incidents that have severely shaken bilateral relations in the past.

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[HOLLYWOOD]

Gotta show off that newly refurbished aircraft carrier... Hand it to the Chinese, they DO KNOW HOW to conduct foreign relations and trade with countries around the world. Peaceful trade and barter... Whereas the US government creates false flags and crisis to overthrow sovereign nations and governments, all for their natural resources, installing geographical puppet dictator regimes and laundering US tax dollars to their crony campaign donors.

Funny US can go around the world flexing military might, but when another nation wants to defend their waters and region.... LOOK OUT, those bad guys are invading! Odd, how I've never seen/heard of even one Al-CIAda terrorist attacking Tienanmen Square or flying a planes into the 'Great Wall of China' or Beijing... why is it always the US? Hmmm... oh yeah, because Rudy Ghouliani says, "They Hate U.S. because We're Free!" you know, 'The 3 Felonies a day, POLICE STATE, Open-Air Prison Free'.

 

[Czolgosz]

Gotta show off that newly refurbished aircraft carrier... Hand it to the Chinese, they DO KNOW HOW to conduct foreign relations and trade with countries around the world. Peaceful trade and barter... Whereas the US government creates false flags and crisis to overthrow sovereign nations and governments, all for their natural resources, installing geographical puppet dictator regimes and laundering US tax dollars to their crony campaign donors.

Funny US can go around the world flexing military might, but when another nation wants to defend their waters and region.... LOOK OUT, those bad guys are invading! Odd, how I've never seen/heard of even one Al-CIAda terrorist attacking Tienanmen Square or flying a planes into the 'Great Wall of China' or Beijing... why is it always the US? Hmmm... oh yeah, because Rudy Ghouliani says, "They Hate U.S. because We're Free!" you know, 'The 3 Felonies a day, POLICE STATE, Open-Air Prison Free'.

Exactly.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Annnnndddd this goes right here:

The uninvited guest: Chinese sub pops up in middle of U.S. Navy exercise, leaving military chiefs red-faced

By MATTHEW HICKLEY

Last updated at 00:13 10 November 2007

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ercise-leaving-military-chiefs-red-faced.html

When the U.S. Navy deploys a battle fleet on exercises, it takes the security of its aircraft carriers very seriously indeed.

At least a dozen warships provide a physical guard while the technical wizardry of the world's only military superpower offers an invisible shield to detect and deter any intruders.

That is the theory. Or, rather, was the theory.

American military chiefs have been left dumbstruck by an undetected Chinese submarine popping up at the heart of a recent Pacific exercise and close to the vast U.S.S. Kitty Hawk - a 1,000ft supercarrier with 4,500 personnel on board.

By the time it surfaced the 160ft Song Class diesel-electric attack submarine is understood to have sailed within viable range for launching torpedoes or missiles at the carrier.

According to senior Nato officials the incident caused consternation in the U.S. Navy.

The Americans had no idea China's fast-growing submarine fleet had reached such a level of sophistication, or that it posed such a threat.

One Nato figure said the effect was "as big a shock as the Russians launching Sputnik" - a reference to the Soviet Union's first orbiting satellite in 1957 which marked the start of the space age.

The incident, which took place in the ocean between southern Japan and Taiwan, is a major embarrassment for the Pentagon.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

While US has spent last decade playing whack-a-mole with AlQeda/rebels etc all around the globe and spent Trillions in the process, China has been quietly building its military power with future super power aspirations.

 

[Demigod]

...

 

[Occam's Banana]

File under "TROLLS OF TRULY EPIC PROPORTION" ...

On a serious note, though: this is just firms up my suspicion that 90% of America's alleged military might is composed of equal parts smug arrogance and self-satisfied ignorance.

Annnnndddd this goes right here:

The uninvited guest: Chinese sub pops up in middle of U.S. Navy exercise, leaving military chiefs red-faced

By MATTHEW HICKLEY

Last updated at 00:13 10 November 2007

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ercise-leaving-military-chiefs-red-faced.html

When the U.S. Navy deploys a battle fleet on exercises, it takes the security of its aircraft carriers very seriously indeed.

At least a dozen warships provide a physical guard while the technical wizardry of the world's only military superpower offers an invisible shield to detect and deter any intruders.

That is the theory. Or, rather, was the theory.

American military chiefs have been left dumbstruck by an undetected Chinese submarine popping up at the heart of a recent Pacific exercise and close to the vast U.S.S. Kitty Hawk - a 1,000ft supercarrier with 4,500 personnel on board.

By the time it surfaced the 160ft Song Class diesel-electric attack submarine is understood to have sailed within viable range for launching torpedoes or missiles at the carrier.

According to senior Nato officials the incident caused consternation in the U.S. Navy.

The Americans had no idea China's fast-growing submarine fleet had reached such a level of sophistication, or that it posed such a threat.

One Nato figure said the effect was "as big a shock as the Russians launching Sputnik" - a reference to the Soviet Union's first orbiting satellite in 1957 which marked the start of the space age.

The incident, which took place in the ocean between southern Japan and Taiwan, is a major embarrassment for the Pentagon.

 

[Anti Federalist]

File under "TROLLS OF TRULY EPIC PROPORTION" ...

On a serious note, though: this is just firms up my suspicion that 90% of America's alleged military might is composed of equal parts smug arrogance and self-satisfied ignorance.

ROFL...yah, somebody with Shop Skills needs to shop a "trollface" on that sub.

"Hah Hah gweilos, we see you, fuckers."

 

[sailingaway]

While US has spent last decade playing whack-a-mole with AlQeda/rebels etc all around the globe and spent Trillions in the process, China has been quietly building its military power with future super power aspirations.

this. Our government assholes couldn't even conserve resource and public will for when actual threats might occur. Instead of enhancing our standing world wide, we merely overextended, spent too much, and ran through public trust and patience -- and funds. It is power IN RESERVE that counts.

 

[Henry Rogue]

US has spent last decade playing whack-a-mole with AlQeda/rebels

That's a great line. Hope you don't mind if i use it.

 

[LibertyEagle]

While US has spent last decade playing whack-a-mole with AlQeda/rebels etc all around the globe and spent Trillions in the process, China has been quietly building its military power with future super power aspirations.

Sad, but true.

 

[Anti Federalist]

While US has spent last decade playing whack-a-mole with AlQeda/rebels etc all around the globe and spent Trillions in the process, China has been quietly building its military power with future super power aspirations.

With our industrial base and currency, handed to Chairman Mao on a silver platter by Kissinger and Nixon in 1971.

Talk about "Epic Trolls".

 

[PaulC]

I remember hearing about this sub thing, but had forgotten. Makes you wonder if the US military has the ability to go up against anyone more high-tech than 3rd world countries.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Oh yeah, almost forgot:

Powered by diesel fuel refined from Iraqi crude.

Trololololololol...

 

[PaulC]

Oh yeah, almost forgot:

Powered by diesel fuel refined from Iraqi crude.

Trololololololol...

LOL ;-)

 

[FSP-Rebel]

While US has spent last decade playing whack-a-mole with AlQeda/rebels etc all around the globe and spent Trillions in the process, China has been quietly building its military power with future super power aspirations.

Thx, I'll be incorporating that into my arsenal to help conservatives that care about safety to realize the error of their past ways. By all means, let's send more arms and money to play in the Syria sandbox when China has our number. McCain, you smelly, pugnacious fart, you!

 

[enhanced_deficit]

That's a great line. Hope you don't mind if i use it.

Not at all, use it as you like

Thx, I'll be incorporating that into my arsenal to help conservatives that care about safety to realize the error of their past ways. By all means, let's send more arms and money to play in the Syria sandbox when China has our number. McCain, you smelly, pugnacious fart, you!

I am tempted to add a youtube clip of whack-a-mole game to illustrate our foreign policy of last decade, not much in return of all the trillions spent other than a false sense of satisfaction from hammering something, exhaustion and futility.