China is erasing its border with Hong Kong

[oyarde]

HK would flourish if china collapsed first but I doubt it works out , if china is collapsing they would probably invade and loot what they could. The entire country is only 8 decades removed from all being murderous looters . My guess is it kicks back in pretty quick .

 

[Swordsmyth]

HK would flourish if china collapsed first but I doubt it works out , if china is collapsing they would probably invade and loot what they could. The entire country is only 8 decades removed from all being murderous looters . My guess is it kicks back in pretty quick .

You are probably right.

HK is doomed and really has been since the handover, the brits should have given them to Taiwan or granted them independence instead of giving them to the ChiComs but the brits were following globalist orders.

 

[Swordsmyth]

The situation in Hong Kong is rapidly deteriorating, with violence breaking out in seven locations Monday afternoon as the citywide strike crippled transportation.

What were supposed to be peaceful sit-ins in different districts turned into riots, "with Wong Tai Sin and Harcourt Road seeing the most intense confrontations as protesters kneel instead of flee, to shield themselves while tear gas rounds and sponge grenades rain on them," according to SCMP.

VIDEO: ���� Hong Kong police launch rounds of tear gas and try to clear pro-democracy protesters who had gathered near a police dormitory in the working-class district of #WongTaiSin #HongKongProtests pic.twitter.com/GkuCBM0DCV
— AFP news agency (@AFP) August 5, 2019​

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Protesters threw a suspected gasoline bomb at police after first being attacked by bricks.

20:00 A suspected gasoline bomb was thrown by protesters to the police who were resting on Tai Po Tai Wo road near the crossroad with Nam Wan Rd. The police were attacked suddenly first by bricks from the protesters and then the bomb. #antiELAB pic.twitter.com/hyv8YLhKxH
— Karen Zhang (@karenised) August 5, 2019​

Riot police used crowd control measures in at least five locations - targeting those filing the streets. 82 people were arrested for offences including rioting, unlawful assembly, assaulting a police officer, obstructing police and possession of offensive weapons.

Tear gas in Admiralty #anyielab pic.twitter.com/zSWxuV87lm
— Neil Taylor (@mrneiltaylor) August 5, 2019​

Fighting broke out between protesters and local residents, while reports of 'white shirted' men believed to be triad gang members began beating protesters as the evening devolved.

#LIVE: A group of white-shirted men brandishing rods are attacking protesters in North Point https://t.co/4zOXMH4fU9 #HongKongProtests pic.twitter.com/ipmIct6zXV
— SCMP News (@SCMPNews) August 5, 2019​

BREAKING - Fighting has broken out at North Point between Protesters and local residents. #HongKongProtests #HongKong pic.twitter.com/6MarDFjeAP
— Michael Zhang 張雨軒 (@YuxuanMichael) August 5, 2019​

Here's the aftermath. Protesters chased the men with sticks up the hill and broke the windows of a residential building. To clarify, unclear if men with sticks are residents. Overheard some speaking in Cantonese and some speaking Mandarin. #HongKong pic.twitter.com/aN0bFZoaHH
— Michael Zhang 張雨軒 (@YuxuanMichael) August 5, 2019​

Via CNN Protesters also started a fire at the Tuen Mun police station after spray painting its wall with profanities:

#LIVE: Protesters set fires at and besiege police stations, throw national flag into water as chaos reigns across Hong Kong https://t.co/4zOXMH4fU9 #HongKongProtests pic.twitter.com/lVesmONDUt
— SCMP News (@SCMPNews) August 5, 2019​

One woman was paraded through the streets after her underwear had been either removed or fallen off during her arrest.

In response to the unrest, Cathay Pacific airlines canceled over 150 flights and urged passengers to postpone non-essential travel according to CNN.

More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019...-police-stations-set-fire-and-triads-are-back

 

[Swordsmyth]

Conservative commentator Kurt Schlichter pointed out one very sobering detail about these protests:
“Note that HK citizens have no guns. Watch what happens to them. It’s coming. And I expect the Chinese will combine it with this trade war business to take the sanctions hit all at once.”

Note that HK citizens have no guns. Watch what happens to them. It’s coming. And I expect the Chinese will combine it with this trade war business to take the sanctions hit all at once.@thomasbsauer https://t.co/e3OMwXdOUh
— Kurt Schlichter (@KurtSchlichter) August 5, 2019
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Then a poster followed up on Schlichter’s tweet thread with an image of a Hong Kong protestor holding a sign saying, “We need the 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] Amendment.”

Spotted at a protest in HK pic.twitter.com/NyZx3IAIoQ
— Vincent LaGuardia Gambini (@v_laguardia) August 5, 2019
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This demonstrates how lucky Americans are compared to other people around the world.
Although gun laws at the federal level still need work, Americans enjoy strong gun freedoms globally speaking.
In the Hong Kong case, this could be a matter of life or death, considering the Chinese government’s repressive nature.
The Tiananmen Square massacre of 1989 conjures up lurid imagery of the what the Chinese government is capable of doing to its citizens when it’s pressed against the wall.

More at: https://bigleaguepolitics.com/hong-kong-protestor-pictured-with-a-pro-second-amendment-sign/

 

[eleganz]

You are probably right.

HK is doomed and really has been since the handover, the brits should have given them to Taiwan or granted them independence instead of giving them to the ChiComs but the brits were following globalist orders.

In my mind, HK is already gone.

Yes if China collapsed, I suppose HK could still last but it really is just a matter of time. When does the SAR status end, 2047? only 27 years away.

In my last trip to China, I discussed with one of my friends who is also quite the businessman (also very pro-CCP), he thought China would leave HK as a special administrative region even after the grace period is over.

Really the only way is for HK'ers to stand up and refuse China at all costs and hope they back off. HK isn't a situation like Taiwan where HK still claims independence. UK gave HK away so there really is no talk of independence there. Maybe if HK'ers took over the gov and joined Taiwan in rebellion but even Taiwan is going to be welcoming a pro-Taiwan (but also supposedly secretly pro-Beijing) President (han guo yu) in the next election.

I don't think China would invade HK but they are communists and they are desperate, so who knows what could happen...

 

[Pauls' Revere]

Bet that the US strengthens its treaties with Taiwan asap and a fresh round of arms sales.

OMG, I searched this topic after I posted. I had no idea there is an arms deal in the works and China is upset about it. Demands the US cancel it.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...EBDCFF93BAE48E682060EBDCFF93BAE48E6&FORM=VIRE

https://www.dtnpf.com/agriculture/w...rticle/2019/07/13/taiwan-defends-us-arms-deal


Taiwan Defends US Arms Deal
Taiwan Defends US Arms Deal
7/13/2019 | 10:41 AM CDT
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TAIPEI, Taiwan (AP) -- Taiwan on Saturday defended a proposal to purchase $2.2 billion in arms from the U.S., following a Chinese announcement that it would sanction any American companies involved in the deal.

U.S. weapons help strengthen Taiwan's self-defense in the face of a growing military threat from China, the defense ministry said.

"The national army will continue to strengthen its key defense forces, ensure national security, protect its homeland and ensure that the fruits of freedom and democracy won't be attacked," the ministry said in a statement.

China announced late Friday that it would impose sanctions on any U.S. enterprises involved in the deal, saying it "undermines China's sovereignty and national security."

 

[Swordsmyth]

In my mind, HK is already gone.

Yes if China collapsed, I suppose HK could still last but it really is just a matter of time. When does the SAR status end, 2047? only 27 years away.

In my last trip to China, I discussed with one of my friends who is also quite the businessman (also very pro-CCP), he thought China would leave HK as a special administrative region even after the grace period is over.

Really the only way is for HK'ers to stand up and refuse China at all costs and hope they back off. HK isn't a situation like Taiwan where HK still claims independence. UK gave HK away so there really is no talk of independence there. Maybe if HK'ers took over the gov and joined Taiwan in rebellion but even Taiwan is going to be welcoming a pro-Taiwan (but also supposedly secretly pro-Beijing) President (han guo yu) in the next election.

I don't think China would invade HK but they are communists and they are desperate, so who knows what could happen...

I think China is cornered and wounded and likely to lash out violently in almost any direction.

The only chance HK has is if China collapses very soon and so rapidly that they can't deal with HK.

 

[eleganz]

Bet that the US strengthens its treaties with Taiwan asap and a fresh round of arms sales.

OMG, I searched this topic after I posted. I had no idea there is an arms deal in the works and China is upset about it. Demands the US cancel it.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...EBDCFF93BAE48E682060EBDCFF93BAE48E6&FORM=VIRE

https://www.dtnpf.com/agriculture/w...rticle/2019/07/13/taiwan-defends-us-arms-deal


Taiwan Defends US Arms Deal
Taiwan Defends US Arms Deal
7/13/2019 | 10:41 AM CDT
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TAIPEI, Taiwan (AP) -- Taiwan on Saturday defended a proposal to purchase $2.2 billion in arms from the U.S., following a Chinese announcement that it would sanction any American companies involved in the deal.

U.S. weapons help strengthen Taiwan's self-defense in the face of a growing military threat from China, the defense ministry said.

"The national army will continue to strengthen its key defense forces, ensure national security, protect its homeland and ensure that the fruits of freedom and democracy won't be attacked," the ministry said in a statement.

China announced late Friday that it would impose sanctions on any U.S. enterprises involved in the deal, saying it "undermines China's sovereignty and national security."

We really do live in interesting times.

The US v China; tug o war over Taiwan without going into physical confrontations.

Seems like the only peaceful solution is to just keep kicking the bucket down the road and Taiwan being left alone but never fully independent.

 

[Danke]

You were travelling to Hong Kong without being asked to show a Passport as recently as this year? I had no idea that was possible.

I think it depends on which country you come from. As being part of a Crew, no passport needed. But I suspect regular passengers need to show one. And I know if you are from countries like the Philippines, a visa. The Philippine workers there regularly have to fly back to the Philippines to renew their Visas as they are only for a short duration. Everyone speaks English for the most part. Some of the bars give me a crew discount.

If you are into charity, a lot of the domestic workers are kicked out of the homes they work in on Sunday, as the families that employ them want that day to themselves. So rather than letting them spend that night on the streets (they are all over the place usually in groups) you can offer one or more a nice clean 5 star hotel room to spend the night in...so I have heard...

 

[Danke]

While the world is transfixed by the fireworks unleashed by the plunge in China's yen to a record low, the real geopolitical hotspot for China remains Hong Kong, and there things are getting progressively uglier following Monday morning's press conference by Karrie Lam who once again said she will not resign, and warned that "some people" have put Hong Kong in a very dangerous situation as protesters' actions challenge the "one country, two systems" model and threaten prosperity by seeking to ruin the city by calling for "revolution" or the "liberation of Hong Kong."

Hong Kong leader Carrie Lam on why she will not resign: "I don't think at this point in time resignation of myself or some of my colleagues will provide a better solution." https://t.co/mADFNtmUa3 pic.twitter.com/C3KHxf2Aen
— Bloomberg Next China (@next_china) August 5, 2019​

In a press conference in which Lam was flanked by eight top officials, including chief secretary, chiefs of finance, commerce, transport, security, health and civil service as well as home affairs undersecretary, she said she is taking responsibility by staying on to serve, arguing that resignations by her or others won't help (several million protesters would beg to differ). Her solution: "Upholding the rule of law is the way out", by which she means the people conceding to Beijing's demands.
"Such extensive disruptions in the name of certain demands or uncooperative movement have seriously undermined Hong Kong’s law and order, pushing our city, the city we all love and many of us helped to build, to the verge of a very dangerous situation,” Carrie Lam says.
"The government will be resolute in maintaining law and order of Hong Kong and restoring confidence" she said, adding that "we all love Hong Kong and have made various contributions to its stability and prosperity ... it’s time to say no to chaos and violence."
The only problem is that the only ones who are eager to say "no to chaos and violence" are various Triad-linked thugs, and of course, the Chinese People's Liberation Army, which according to report is massing on the Hong Kong border, just waiting for the green light to, well, "liberate."
Additionally, Lam said that protests have already deviated from the original demand, Lam said. She didn't say much on calls for an independent inquiry into police action and recent events. The General Chamber of Commerce has joined protesters in calling for an inquiry.
In a surprising reversal from prior periods when China would sternly ignore the events in Hong Kong, today even the People's Daily tweeted account has been following every twist in the much anticipated Lam presser, quoting her verbatim as mainland China's attention is now squarely focused on how Beijing will quell the Hong Kong rebellion.

#HongKong is on the verge of a very dangerous situation; HK govt respects protestors’ rights to express opinions but they should also respect others’ rights, HK Chief Executive Carrie Lam said Mon, adding that an emergency mechanism has been put in place to deal with Mon strikes. pic.twitter.com/mZu1BmqYuf
— People's Daily, China (@PDChina) August 5, 2019​

Meanwhile, financial Secretary Paul Chan warned Hong Kong risks a recession on protests and outside factors like trade.
He may be on to something: on Monday, a paralysing citywide strike as part of the escalating anti-government protests forced Hong Kong airport authorities to cancel some 230 flights on Monday morning. Air traffic controllers have called in sick en masse, echoing the actions of an estimated 500,000 Hongkongers from more than 20 business sectors.
The number of flights that can take off, or land, has been affected as a result, and authorities said only one of the two runways would be in operation from midday on Monday until 6am on Tuesday. Only 34 flights would be permitted per hour during that, instead of up to the 68 per hour that normally take off from the city’s international airport, according to SCMP, with flights across Asia bearing the brunt of the cancellations.
Trains and planes are also being disrupted, with multiple subway lines suspended or delayed and hundreds of flights canceled.

More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019...-protesters-creating-very-dangerous-situation

Just flew out of there Monday, August 5. Only delay we had was for a runway change. The subways were shut down by protestors, but we got to the airport, no problem.

We left right around noon, it might have been a problem for later flights.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Just flew out of there Monday. Only delay we had was for a runway change. The subways were shut down by protestors, but we got to the airport, no problem.

We left right around noon, it might have been a problem for later flights.

You must have gotten out just in time.

 

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https://twitter.com/ELINTNews/status/1160588729288941568

 

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https://twitter.com/joshuawongcf/status/1160577125570637825

 

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https://twitter.com/HongKongFP/status/1160530055849635840

 

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https://twitter.com/rhokilpatrick/status/1160586187498651653

 

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https://twitter.com/wilfredchan/status/1160573386231181313

 

[Swordsmyth]

https://twitter.com/wilfredchan/status/1160573386231181313

https://twitter.com/HongKongFP/status/1160653633039376384

 

[RJB]

No borders! No walls! No Hong Kong at all!

How dare those people demand a destiny different from the Chi-coms.