Chick-fil-A Vandalized in Torrance, CA ("Tastes Like Hate")

I like antiques. They are often much more beautiful and well crafted for long term use than all this modern crap.

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Antique clocks, clothes, toys are better than gay marriage. I want shark attacks on the news now. Better yet, why can't everybody just have sex. its summer time in the city.
 
The gay lobby have some of the most intolerant and hypocritical people out there.

That's true, but they also contain some of my friends who enjoyed tasty Chick Fil-A sandwiches on Wednesday, because they are not blinded by the idiocy of people like the graffiti artist.
 
But you don't object to civil unions? Right? Gays should be afforded that right? Just want to be sure you're on the right logical course here.

I don't care what people do in their personal lives. But marriage should be a sacred bonding of two hearts, and husband and wife should serve each other according to principles laid out in the Bible. Unfortunately marriage has been hijacked and redefined over and over. Rarely do people allow the true definition of marriage to guide them. It is no wonder that half of all marriages fail.

It's like Christmas. Originally a celebration of Christ's birth. Then came saint nick. Now your liberals freak out if a business says "merry Christmas" instead of "happy holidays!" you see? I guess that marriage and Christmas just seemed too fun, and the other kids on the playground had to come take the ball..
 
I don't care what people do in their personal lives. But marriage should be a sacred bonding of two hearts, and husband and wife should serve each other according to principles laid out in the Bible. Unfortunately marriage has been hijacked and redefined over and over. Rarely do people allow the true definition of marriage to guide them. It is no wonder that half of all marriages fail.

It's like Christmas. Originally a celebration of Christ's birth. Then came saint nick. Now your liberals freak out if a business says "merry Christmas" instead of "happy holidays!" you see? I guess that marriage and Christmas just seemed too fun, and the other kids on the playground had to come take the ball..

It's the equivalent to telling pigs that they have wings and that they can fly. I say humor them. It doesn't hurt you or I. That's why it doesn't really bother me whether they can be married or not. What I don't like is all the indoctrination that comes with this thrust. However, the gay marriage issue by itself really doesn't bother me.
 
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Here are some real issues

Drug War
The Fed
NATO and UN security council encroachments
Preserving american Sovereignty
Cutting Spending
HR 495
Liberty in out lifetime
Anaheim Martial law
Honest Money
Iran Sanction
Gun Rights
NOT
9/11 Mosque
Gay Marriage
"civil" rights

Pretty good list, although I'm not sure what you mean by "out" lifetime. ;) Of course everyone's lifetime needs liberty, no matter who they are. :)

That's true, but they also contain some of my friends who enjoyed tasty Chick Fil-A sandwiches on Wednesday, because they are not blinded by the idiocy of people like the graffiti artist.

 
Since when is the Family Research Council a "hate group?" Disagree with a homosexual, black, Jew, or Muslim and all of a sudden you're a fucking hate group; get real.

You forgot us right wing militia extremists, and I'm now offended by that :)
 
That's what the SPLC says. Then again the SPLC was a likely minor accomplice in the OKC bombing. LOL So they have little to no credibility.
Those people claim I am dangerous , they could be right about that .... but , not if they leave me the fuck alone ...
 
I don't care what people do in their personal lives. But marriage should be a sacred bonding of two hearts, and husband and wife should serve each other according to principles laid out in the Bible. Unfortunately marriage has been hijacked and redefined over and over. Rarely do people allow the true definition of marriage to guide them. It is no wonder that half of all marriages fail.

It's like Christmas. Originally a celebration of Christ's birth. Then came saint nick. Now your liberals freak out if a business says "merry Christmas" instead of "happy holidays!" you see? I guess that marriage and Christmas just seemed too fun, and the other kids on the playground had to come take the ball..

I think people have the right to do whatever makes them happy and have the right to marry whomever they want if someone will do it. Just as long as the state or federal government is not involved in anyway, I could care less who marries them and how they live out their marriage.

And the christians hijacked christmas from the pagans.
 
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Since when is the Family Research Council a "hate group?" Disagree with a homosexual, black, Jew, or Muslim and all of a sudden you're a fucking hate group; get real.

Since they support legislating morality, including criminalizing divorce and pornography. Since they support the FCC banning programs that are "inappropriate". They also fully support marriage amendments and throwing people in rape cages for ingesting the wrong plant. And they completely support our extremely anti-family values foreign policy - and worse, they use the bible to justify it. Wrapped in the flag, carrying a cross, indeed.

http://www.frc.org/op-eds/marriage-protection

If, as they say, "marriage is a uniquely important institution that unites mothers and fathers to their children," then it is worth not only a unique name, but a unique set of benefits.

Society gives benefits to marriage because marriage benefits society.

Oh, and surprise! They oppose the Muslim community center in New York.

They don't want less government. They worship the state, and want government that supports them and their causes and jails those who don't. FRC and their ilk are fucking disgusting.
 
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this. The protesters were vastly outnumbered by diners when I drove by the one in Hollywood, and if that was true in HOLLYWOOD, Torrence, which is much more conservative, would have had to have been the same. The revenge was because they couldn't muster numbers to demonstrate personal outrage of a CEO who doesn't even own the franchise, having personal opinions they disagree with.

People can boycott, people can protest (if they don't harrass) and people can attend in droves. But mayors forbidding permits based on the religious or political beliefs of the owner, and vandalism, are the evils here.

You know what this reminds me of? When people didn't want a permit given to that community center with a Muslim community room in the old Brookfield coat factory several blocks from where the twin towers were attacked. That was sort of in your face, imho, given the guy behind it, but even so, that is not the proper role of the state.
Hey i heard that exact same talking point on fox news.

Same old crap different day, you guys are all the same.
 
Christians who use government violence to "spread"(force) the word of God provided the very example that is now being used by the "oppressed minorities" to "spread" (force) the acceptability of certain life choices.

Both of these groups are interested in power, not the end of discrimination. Homosexuals and Christians share similar vision: they are both seeking to remove the ability to discriminate from the other while retaining the exclusive right to wield it via government violence.

This is actually quite true for many people. The public is totally engaged in this battle. However, the Christian libertarians on this board are not interested in government power from what I know. At least, I'm not and from what I've heard, no Christian on this thread or similar threads has ever argued such a thing. Many of the people advocating gay marriage on this and similar threads, however, are arguing for more government force because they want to add the power of the government to license marriage. Either advocate for getting rid of marriage licenses, or admit you are just a big government person. It's as simple as that. There is no way to get from here to less government power by adding government power. That's the antithesis of liberty.
 
Wouldn't that be accurate? (Not trying to start a fight. It's not really the offensive term it has come to be these days)

Bigot is defined as somebody with strong opinions, especially on politics, religion, or ethnicity, who refuses to accept different views

That would make all of us bigots. Welcome to the club, gay "rights" advocates.
 
I don't even know what Kos is. Never been on the website before. I simply Googled "Chick-Fil-A Family Research Council Hate" to see if I could find out why people call FRC a hate group, and this was one of the first links that came up.

But if you insist on labeling me, you should know that I think abortion is murder, people should be free to pray on the steps of a public courthouse if they choose to, affirmative action is wrong, and disliking Obama does not make me racist. But I do think gay people should be allowed to get married if they want to.

And I think atheists who think we should remove "In God We Trust" from our money are overboard zealots who have too much time on their hands and give other atheists a bad name.

Am I still a Liberal? I could use your help here because I am confused as to what collective group I should be lumped in with.

Gay people can get married. They just can't get a government license. Instead of "allowing" gay people to get a government license, which will raise taxes and lower freedom, how about we just get rid of government licenses for heterosexual couples. Sound good to you?
 
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Why the hell do we care wtf stance a fast food joint has on gay marriage. Seems like this is blown all out of proportion.

It really is. Dan Cathy, of course, is a significant person because he is successful, but that doesn't justify all the attention this is getting. It's such a non-issue, just like it would be if it were some Joseph Blough on the street who said it.
 
Do you personally know anyone who is gay and who has ever expressed a desire to get married? A friend, family member, even just a friend of a friend? Have you ever had a detailed conversation with anyone in that situation and heard their story, and their feelings about this issue?

As someone who has more than one friend and family member in that situation, as well as several family members who are on the "keep gay marriage illegal" side of the debate, I'm guessing I'm probably far more informed on this issue than you are. (Maybe I'm wrong and you do know people personally who simply want the same thing the rest of us take for granted. Do you?)

You don't get informed by listening to your family members arguing about it. Most people have very one-sided views. Having "real life experience" just doesn't fly around here.
 
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