"charter cities" in Honduras offer potential libertarian living places

[emazur]

First of, note that this author is a left winger complaining about the very concept b/c it is an affront to "democracy" (all the more reason to take an interest in it):
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/07/2012711121224166933.html

"In a nutshell, the Honduran government wants to create what amounts to internal start-ups - quasi-independent city-states that begin with a clean slate and are then overseen by outside experts. They will have their own government, write their own laws, manage their own currency and, eventually, hold their own elections."

I'm not saying there aren't any red flags (overseen by outside experts...) but thought this might be of interest to people here

 

[risk_reward]

This has been posted before:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...Romer-s-Charter-Cities&highlight=charter+city

 

[emazur]

I've watched a little bit and will watch the rest later, though I'm thinking it doesn't have anything to do specifically w/ Honduras

 

[MJU1983]

I'd stay out of mainland Honduras, just for personal safety. Roatán Island is safe though.

 

[hazek]

It seems like something we should look forward to trying and it seems like it might be a way to achieve real freedom but actually it's a non solution because you are still being controlled by the host country: "..and are then overseen by outside experts.."

And not only that but the government is the same type as everywhere else, with a monopoly on violence and making up arbitrary rules enforced through violence and anyone intelligent can tell how that is going to turn out eventually.

I initially thought about taking up an interest in this idea but after a little bit of research I quickly saw for what it was and decided to forget about it.

 

[MikeStanart]

Anyone who can afford to move to Honduras to start their own government is probably painting a big target on their back by moving there.

 

[BSWPaulsen]

Get people to move there, become successful, and then tax the shit out of them. Overseen by experts indeed. It's an appeal to ambitious libertarians to feed their government with resources they wouldn't have otherwise.

As if they'd honestly leave the city-states alone. That city-state better be able to arm themselves to the teeth, or their autonomy won't last long.

 

[LibForestPaul]

Honduras is nothing. Its government is nothing. They can not make promises because whoever buys the politician of the day makes the laws. Let me know when this charter cities can buy some nukes. Because without them, some rich nation-state, run by super elites, can and will take what is yours, or destroy what is yours, whenever they choose..

 

[Elwar]

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-09-04-21-45-18

Honduras signs deal to create private cities

 

[Demigod]

I am planing to moving to Angola in a few years.They pay my profession a lot more than were I work now.Apartments and houses are a lot cheaper as well ( always wanted to live by the sea ) and the temperature is great.

And unless you live in the capital you will rarely have the government on your ass.

It is not a libertarian dream but it is good enough.

 

[Mundane]

I'd stay out of mainland Honduras, just for personal safety.

Agreed. I couldn't wait to get out there when I went.

 

[emazur]

As long as this topic has been bumped with updated news, here's something semi-related that I saw recently:
Report: Greece May Sell Islands to Raise Capital

 

[FSP-Rebel]

Update article from HP

Archive of Free Talk Live's Monday night interview with the CEO of MGK Group, Michael Strong, who is behind this private cities effort. It's the first 5 segments on Monday night's show and has some very good insights about what is going on down there. The CEO has a pretty impressive resume in the liberty movement and he addresses many of Ian and Mark's questions regarding the feasibility of this unique idea.

 

[emazur]

Came here to post an updated article:

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/09/11/private-city-in-honduras-will-have-minimal-taxes-government/

will check out that FTL interview

 

[AlexAmore]

I can't listen to the interview right now. I agree that Honduras is shaky ground. I'm very interested in the security measures. How interesting would it be if they turned into the next Hong Kong, then overthrew Honduras?