Charlottesville Antifa Steamrolled By Car

[dannno]

Now the source of the news doesn't matter? When did that change for you?

Because the NYT and CNN usually just says a bunch of horseshit made up by deep state tools sorta like what you do, whereas the site I linked to had a compilation of actual original documentation of the incident.

Can't tell if unintentionally or intentionally hilarious. Either way, hilarious.

Can you explain why it is funny?

 

[Ender]

Because the NYT and CNN usually just says a bunch of horse$#@! made up by deep state tools sorta like what you do, whereas the site I linked to had a compilation of actual original documentation of the incident.




Can you explain why it is funny?

Come on dannno- people who question the favored narrative here are ALWAYS called out for the news source, no matter what the evidence shows in an article.

I have been several times, even when it was an "accepted" source, if it didn't fit some forum member's narrative.

If a Trump-lover posts, it doesn't matter what the source; if a Trump-questioner posts, they are always called out for the source, no matter who/what it is- even if it's Ron Paul.

 

[dannno]

Come on dannno- people who question the favored narrative here are ALWAYS called out for the news source, no matter what the evidence shows in an article.

Even if the evidence is paid for by George Soros

 

[dannno]

So in discussing this topic on a different site, apparently the reason this guy isn't getting a speedy trial is because....... wait for it......... capitalism Speedy trials aren't as profitable...

 

[Valli6]

James Alex Fields - When is the trial?

James Alex Fields - I'd totally forgotten the name.

When does this guy's trial happen? Must be soon, but I can't find ANY info on it.
Google apparently censoring info because an advanced search of his name only links to old stories from last summer even though I specify I want links within the last month or week.

Even StartPage advanced search offers few recent links about Charlottesville. Did find the following:

Oct 16, 2017

The Central District Office of the Chief Medical Examiner in Richmond has released the cause of death for the woman killed in the August 12 car attack following the Unite the Right Rally in downtown Charlottesville.

According to our partners at the Daily Progress, the medical examiner ruled her death to be due to blunt force injury.

Heather Heyer was one of dozens who was injured after police say James Alex Fields Jr. of Ohio rammed a car into a crowd of pedestrians gathered at the intersection of 4th and Water streets.

Fields is facing charges of second-degree murder as well as multiple counts of malicious wounding.
He is being held at the Albemarle-Charlottesville Regional Jail.
http://www.nbc29.com/story/36610772/medical-examiner-rules-heyer-died-from-blunt-force-injury

Oct. 23, 2017

10 suspects wanted in assault day of Charlottesville rally

CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. (AP) — Charlottesville police are searching for 10 suspects wanted in connection with an assault in downtown on the day a white nationalist rally erupted in violence.

Police issued a news release Monday asking for the public’s assistance identifying two female and eight male suspects.

Det. Brady Kirby says an adult reported being assaulted Aug. 12, the day the “Unite the Right” rally erupted into chaos and violent confrontations between attendees and counter-protesters.

Kirby says police have video of the incident. He says it shows the victim being assaulted “in one way or another” over several minutes. Police released photos of the suspects taken from video.

Kirby says he can’t comment on whether the suspects or victim, who wasn’t further identified, were attending the rally.

He says the victim suffered minor injuries.
https://www.apnews.com/59fbefa6f2eb...anted-in-assault-day-of-Charlottesville-rally

Thu 12:04 PM, Nov 09, 2017 Cantwell - two of three charges dropped

ALBEMARLE COUNTY, Va. (CBS19 NEWS) -- The white nationalist who was facing three felony charges stemming from the August 11 torch rally on the University of Virginia Grounds is now facing only one charge.

Christopher Cantwell was initially charged with illegal use of a gas, illegal use of a gas with malice, and unlawful injury by means of a toxic substance.

After a six-hour preliminary hearing that included testimony from Cantwell's two accusers and Cantwell himself, Judge William Barkley dismissed the bodily injury and malicious use of gas charges. He cited a change in witness testimony and a lack of evidence showing that Cantwell acted with malice…

…The single charge will now be sent to a grand jury. Cantwell remains at the Albemarle Charlottesville Regional Jail.

http://www.newsplex.com/content/new...earing-on-pepper-spray-charges-456403683.html

 

[Madison320]

James Alex Fields - I'd totally forgotten the name.

When does this guy's trial happen? Must be soon, but I can't find ANY info on it.
Google apparently censoring info because an advanced search of his name only links to old stories from last summer even though I specify I want links within the last month or week.

Even StartPage advanced search offers few recent links about Charlottesville. Did find the following:

Oct 16, 2017


Oct. 23, 2017



Thu 12:04 PM, Nov 09, 2017 Cantwell - two of three charges dropped

Yeah, I've been following this story also and it's really weird. The last article I found was on the local news site a couple weeks after the incident. The article said his next court date was rescheduled to Dec 15. And that's been it. Not a peep anywhere after that.

 

[ChristianAnarchist]

Yeah, I've been following this story also and it's really weird. The last article I found was on the local news site a couple weeks after the incident. The article said his next court date was rescheduled to Dec 15. And that's been it. Not a peep anywhere after that.

and down the memory hole it goes. Make you wonder about the brain cells in humans these days. We don't have any memory to speak of. Our "logic" centers seem to be completely haywire. Maybe it's been the flouride all along...

 

[enhanced_deficit]

Historically the socialists and nationalists have worked together

If this is factual, history is just full of mind boggling things.

Had read somewhere during Iraqi freedom that historically US gov and extremist violent Jihadis had worked together.

 

[devil21]

Yeah, I've been following this story also and it's really weird. The last article I found was on the local news site a couple weeks after the incident. The article said his next court date was rescheduled to Dec 15. And that's been it. Not a peep anywhere after that.

and down the memory hole it goes. Make you wonder about the brain cells in humans these days. We don't have any memory to speak of. Our "logic" centers seem to be completely haywire. Maybe it's been the flouride all along...

According to VA courts online website, Fields case is currently in Charlottesville District Court, next court date is Dec 14 1pm, presumably for a preliminary/evidentiary hearing. It's been continued a few times, hence why no news. His court appointed attorney, Denise Lunsford has an interesting and rather sordid history. The 14th is also the day before fed.gov runs up against the debt ceiling again (15th)...

(eta: for some reason the debt ceiling date is being reported as Dec 8th. It definitely was the 15th before. Not sure why the change.)

 

[Valli6]

"Independent Review" of Charlottesville Protest

INDEPENDENT REVIEW OF THE 2017 PROTEST EVENTS IN CHARLOTTESVILLE, VIRGINIA
Download Report: http://www.charlottesville.org/home/showdocument?id=59615

On December 1, 2017, former US Attorney Timothy Heaphy and his team released the final report of the Independent Review of the 2017 Protest Events in Charlottesville, Virginia. It is available by clicking here, on the website of Mr. Heaphy's law firm, Hunton & Williams and at the independent review website established by the review team.
http://www.charlottesville.org/home

Timothy J. Heaphy (born 1964) is a white-collar criminal defense attorney, law professor and a former United States Attorney for the Western District of Virginia... Appointed by Barack Obama... https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Timothy_J._Heaphy

James Alex Fields' trial coming up soon.

update: Apparently there was a press conference about this yesterday, Friday Dec 1 - but I haven't found the video.

Video snippet of press conference:

Investigator: Some officials resisted Charlottesville review
CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. (AP) — An independent report that found serious police and government failures in responding to violence at a white nationalist rally in Charlottesville this...

...Heaphy's report was sharply critical of Thomas' response as the violence began to escalate that day.

According to the report, as brawling first broke out, Thomas said, "Let them fight, it will make it easier to declare an unlawful assembly."

Thomas did not recall making that statement, which was cited in accounts by two other police employees, though he confirmed he waited to "see how things played out" before declaring an unlawful assembly, the report said.

"Chief Thomas' slow-footed response to violence put the safety of all at risk and created indelible images of this chaotic event," it said.

The report also said Thomas initially tried to limit access to certain information by directing subordinates not to answer certain questions. And it said Thomas and other Charlottesville police command staff deleted text messages relevant to the investigation.

Kevin Martingayle, an attorney for Thomas, said the chief disputes that...

...State police allowed Heaphy's team to interview the agency's leader and two troopers not present the day of the rally. But the report said state police refused requests to interview four others "important to our evaluation" and turned over just one document...

...Virginia's Secretary of Public Safety and Homeland Security Brian Moran was initially willing to cooperate with Heaphy's investigation, the report says, but Moran's office later invoked executive privilege over certain information amid concerns about possible litigation against the state...

http://www.cetusnews.com/news/Inves...sisted-Charlottesville-review.Bymy-p1lZM.html
https://www.apnews.com/19ada56664ca...ome-officials-resisted-Charlottesville-review

Some reports:






deleted some incorrect info

 

[Valli6]

Of interest...

A little clarification on some issues.

Charlottesville Cops Pulled Squad Car From Intersection Used By James Fields After Officer Said She Felt ‘Unsafe’
PETER HASSON - Associate Editor -12/01/2017

...“In the face of the Market Street skirmishes that broke out after the unlawful-assembly declaration, Officer Shiflett felt unsafe and radioed for assistance. She was soon reassigned, and she moved her vehicle away from that intersection,” the report states.

“After Officer Shiflett departed, all that remained at that crucial intersection was a wooden sawhorse barricade. Lieutenant Steve Knick, the traffic supervisor, was not aware that Officer Shiflett had been reassigned. No one in the Command Center thought to replace Officer Shiflett with other officers, or install any additional barricades. The lack of protection of that intersection left it vulnerable to vehicle traffic southbound on 4th Street, across the Downtown Mall,” it continues.

“The sawhorse barricade blocking 4th Street was moved by unknown persons, and several vehicles were able to travel southbound across the Downtown Mall. James Fields exploited this vulnerability when he drove his Dodge Challenger southbound along 4th Street into a crowd of counter-protesters, causing the death of Heather Heyer.”...

http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/01/c...es-fields-after-officer-said-she-felt-unsafe/

Report: ‘Counter-Protester’ Started Infamous Charlottesville Parking Garage Fight
LIAM CLANCY - Media Reporter - 12/01/2017

A new independent report released Friday claims that it was a counter-protester, not white nationalists, who started the parking garage fight at the Unite The Right rally in Charlottesville, Va., in which a black man, Deandre Harris, was severely beaten.

According to the report, review of the “open source video footage” of the parking garage confrontation shows that “a counter-protester attempted to yank a flag away from a Unite The Right demonstrator who resisted and fought back… During that struggle, a second counter-protester named Deandre Harris rushed in and used a club—possibly a Maglite flashlight—to strike the Alt-Right demonstrator’s head or shoulder.”

The report notes that Harris was then pushed to the ground when the group of white nationalists began to fight back, “which left him defenseless against a mob of angry Alt-Right demonstrators that descended upon him with flagsticks, shields, and pieces of wood.” ...

http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/01/r...infamous-charlottesville-parking-garage-fight

Officer Tammy Shitlett:

http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/l...cle_dada64f1-8b66-589d-9323-2f763f800133.html

 

[sparebulb]

I thought Officer Shiflett was the d1ckhead cop from Newhart.

I didn't like his character because he acted like a real cop.

 

[Valli6]

James Fields' preliminary hearing is December 14th at 1:00 PM

for the sake of accuracy:

James Alex Fields' preliminary hearing is December 14th at 1:00 PM, next Thursday at Charlottesville Circuit Court.
http://www.newsleader.com/story/new...ing-friday-charlottesville-suspect/598190001/
http://www.newsplex.com/content/new...responds-to-independent-review-461526453.html

The charges include:

- second-degree murder
- two counts of malicious wounding
- three counts of aggravated malicious wounding
- three counts malicious wounding & failure to stop for an accident causing death​

..."Attached is the motion to continue in the matter of Commonwealth of Virginia v. James Fields, Jr. Per this motion, there will be no hearing tomorrow, the hearing has been set for December 14, 2017," read a release from Miriam Dickler...

http://www.newsleader.com/story/new...ring-friday-charlottesville-suspect/598190001

 

[Madison320]

Charlottesville Cops Pulled Squad Car From Intersection Used By James Fields After Officer Said She Felt ‘Unsafe’

If she felt unsafe maybe James Fields felt unsafe after his car was struck?

 

[RonPaulMall]

If she felt unsafe maybe James Fields felt unsafe after his car was struck?

Yeah, and how insane is the "failure to stop" charge? Was he expected to stop in the middle of the mob after the accident and get torn to shreds? He drove of to a save distance and then pulled over and waited for authorities. To hit him with an additional charge for that demonstrates the bad faith of the Prosecution.

 

[Valli6]

If she felt unsafe maybe James Fields felt unsafe after his car was struck?

Yeah, and how insane is the "failure to stop" charge? Was he expected to stop in the middle of the mob after the accident and get torn to shreds? He drove of to a save distance and then pulled over and waited for authorities. To hit him with an additional charge for that demonstrates the bad faith of the Prosecution.

Exactly. I'm no lawyer, but it's hard to believe they can do anything other than drop all these charges. Then they'll have another riot on their hands.

- second-degree murder
- two counts of malicious wounding
- three counts of aggravated malicious wounding
- three counts malicious wounding & failure to stop for an accident causing death

 

[Madison320]

Exactly. I'm no lawyer, but it's hard to believe they can do anything other than drop all these charges. Then they'll have another riot on their hands.

- second-degree murder
- two counts of malicious wounding
- three counts of aggravated malicious wounding
- three counts malicious wounding & failure to stop for an accident causing death

Yeah, I think that's why they delayed the trial for so long. So people would forget about it. I'm guessing the prosecutors are desperately hoping Fields will quietly plead guilty to a lesser offense and maybe do 6 months in jail or something. I have a feeling the last thing they want is for this to go to trial.

 

[RJB]

If his lawyer has a half a brain, Fields will walk. It will just cost a few tens of thousands of dollars in lawyers fees to be granted justice.

 

[Madison320]

for the sake of accuracy:

James Alex Fields' preliminary hearing is December 14th at 1:00 PM, next Thursday at Charlottesville Circuit Court.
http://www.newsleader.com/story/new...ing-friday-charlottesville-suspect/598190001/
http://www.newsplex.com/content/new...responds-to-independent-review-461526453.html

The charges include:

- second-degree murder
- two counts of malicious wounding
- three counts of aggravated malicious wounding
- three counts malicious wounding & failure to stop for an accident causing death​

The hearing is tomorrow. Some news came out finally:

http://www.nbc12.com/story/37059592/charlottesville-murder-suspect-to-make-next-court-appearance

This was interesting. Apparently the antifa don't want to appear in court as witnesses. I would think if you're going to refuse to testify you can't blame the state for not convicting the driver.


http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/local/activists-urge-unite-the-right-counter-protesters-to-resist-grand/article_eea3e56e-e027-11e7-9378-4b03961fa529.html

 

[dannno]

The hearing is tomorrow. Some news came out finally:

http://www.nbc12.com/story/37059592/charlottesville-murder-suspect-to-make-next-court-appearance

This was interesting. Apparently the antifa don't want to appear in court as witnesses. I would think if you're going to refuse to testify you can't blame the state for not convicting the driver.


http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/l...cle_eea3e56e-e027-11e7-9378-4b03961fa529.html

[FONT=&quot]A blogpost from the anti-fascism website It's Going Down referenced in flyers promoting Wednesday’s protest, says people should be wary of trusting federal prosecutors.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]“The same law enforcement who rely on the violence and white supremacy of the state can never be relied upon to serve justice against white supremacists. It is vital to look at this situation from this perspective,” the blog post says.
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[FONT=&quot]It goes on to say that non-cooperation is the “strongest and safest option” for activists. “We want to acknowledge that all of us deeply wish to see justice for Heather Heyer. We want to see justice for those injured by James Fields and other white supremacists on Aug. 11 and 12. But, how can we ever trust the state to deliver that to us?”

O.....k......

We've been burned by torches, pepper-sprayed and run over.”

They burned them with the torches??
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