I have followed and read this thread and others from the beginning. Maybe I missed something. I seem to have come to the conclusion that the pro statue protestors for lack of a better name, obtained a permit to gather in the park after the cities objection to grant the permit was overruled. Two other groups that did not obtain a permit came to protest the group that did obtain the permit. The two opposing groups claim the first group is racist and hate driven. Police stood down and diverted the groups into each other and violence ensued. Then at some point a person got into a car and drove it into a crowd of people and killed a woman and injured 19 others. In another incident a helicopter crashed a couple of miles away.
I have seen looped video's of brawls and saw people with bats hitting the car after he struck the crowd. Yes I saw one person in a slow motion video that appeared to strike the vehicle with something.
Is there any video of the beginning of the the protest? Did the first group ever get together and peaceably speak or spew their hatred? Is there any video of the first act of violence?
The left wants Trump to call people out by name. I noticed he did not call out BLM or Antifa. I guess they were "other hateful groups" whose names would not be politically correct to name.
Anyway if anyone could post a video of the first punch or the beginning of the violence, I would like to watch it. I am not being lazy. I have followed countless threads and viewed many sources. I would like to see where it all started.
Thanks.
I have followed and read this thread and others from the beginning. Maybe I missed something. I seem to have come to the conclusion that the pro statue protestors for lack of a better name, obtained a permit to gather in the park after the cities objection to grant the permit was overruled. Two other groups that did not obtain a permit came to protest the group that did obtain the permit. The two opposing groups claim the first group is racist and hate driven. Police stood down and diverted the groups into each other and violence ensued. Then at some point a person got into a car and drove it into a crowd of people and killed a woman and injured 19 others. In another incident a helicopter crashed a couple of miles away.
I have seen looped video's of brawls and saw people with bats hitting the car after he struck the crowd. Yes I saw one person in a slow motion video that appeared to strike the vehicle with something.
Is there any video of the beginning of the the protest? Did the first group ever get together and peaceably speak or spew their hatred? Is there any video of the first act of violence?
The left wants Trump to call people out by name. I noticed he did not call out BLM or Antifa. I guess they were "other hateful groups" whose names would not be politically correct to name.
Anyway if anyone could post a video of the first punch or the beginning of the violence, I would like to watch it. I am not being lazy. I have followed countless threads and viewed many sources. I would like to see where it all started.
Thanks.
This is all hearsay. With everyone having phones and taking video, you would think there would be video showing a peaceful demonstration being disrupted by violence.
Did you read my post about what happened? There was no chance to have a peaceful demonstration. There was no way to get to Lee Park except through Antifa and BLM.
This is all hearsay. With everyone having phones and taking video, you would think there would be video showing a peaceful demonstration being disrupted by violence.
They forced them into AntiFa and then left when the violence began, they knew exactly what they were doing.I'm probably in a minority of one but I don't think it was a conspiracy. I think the govt and police are just stupid. I think it's more likely that they had no idea what they were doing.
Thanks for laying out the facts.
I would also like to request a link to the unedited footage of the person striking the car prior to it striking the crowd. It's difficult for me to tell whether or not the car was already accelerating or if the car accelerated after being struck.
They forced them into AntiFa and then left when the violence began, they knew exactly what they were doing.
I'm probably in a minority of one but I don't think it was a conspiracy. I think the govt and police are just stupid. I think it's more likely that they had no idea what they were doing.
They forced them into AntiFa and then left when the violence began, they knew exactly what they were doing.
This is all hearsay. With everyone having phones and taking video, you would think there would be video showing a peaceful demonstration being disrupted by violence.
The slow-mo video in the tweet it was hard to tell, but you could more clearly see the guy hitting the car.
In the link posted previous to that, you could see the car speeding off after the strike.
It also seems as though they were on him pretty quick after he stopped which leads me to believe they might've already been chasing him although I can't see that in the video.
Thanks!
Damn, Now I'm changing my mind a little. I saw the rear view video at normal speed and he was going too fast considering it was a street full of people. He wasn't at ramming speed but it was too fast. I think he deserves some type of manslaughter charge, for approaching a crowd that fast. I think his speed angered the protestors and they attacked, then he either retaliated or got scared. So it was the initial speed that started the chain of events. At least that's my latest theory.![]()