Charlottesville Antifa Steamrolled By Car

[phill4paul]

Convicted in the same town that the mayor ordered police to "stand down" once rioting started? Sounds legit.

 

[Madison320]

Fields' attorney is friends with Antifa leaders on facebook.

Fields was found guilty.

The whole case was bizarre. The judge ordered the first attorney for Fields to recuse himself because that attorney was protesting the removal of the statues in Charlottesville. I don't get that. Wouldn't you want an attorney that wanted to find you innocent? So if what you said is true about Field's attorney the judge basically removed an attorney that had incentive to find him innocent and replaced him with a flakey attorney that has incentive to find him guilty. My sister's son just recently got charged with a felony for making pot brownies in his dorm kitchen. The attorney they hired was a member of NORML (legalize pot group) and my sister considered that to be a good thing to have an attorney that was sympathetic to her son's plight. The judge in the Field's case would've made my sister find an attorney that was against the legalization of pot. That doesn't make sense to me.


The weird thing to me was that nothing new came out in the trial as far as I could tell from the reporting. I thought there'd be some evidence presented on what actually happened during those crucial 15-20 seconds. Was the car struck before Fields accelerated, as the video evidence suggests? Were all those guys with bats and pipes already attacking the car beforehand or only afterwards? Were they surrounding the car but not striking it?


What's really odd is that as far as I can tell Fields did not testify. That's really what I was waiting for. I would've like to have heard in his own words what happened. Did he hear his car being hit by the crowd? Did he see guys with bats coming after him?

I think it was probably a case of manslaughter but I don't see how it could possibly be first degree murder.

 

[phill4paul]

Fields was found guilty.

The whole case was bizarre. The judge ordered the first attorney for Fields to recuse himself because that attorney was protesting the removal of the statues in Charlottesville. I don't get that. Wouldn't you want an attorney that wanted to find you innocent? So if what you said is true about Field's attorney the judge basically removed an attorney that had incentive to find him innocent and replaced him with a flakey attorney that has incentive to find him guilty. My sister's son just recently got charged with a felony for making pot brownies in his dorm kitchen. The attorney they hired was a member of NORML (legalize pot group) and my sister considered that to be a good thing to have an attorney that was sympathetic to her son's plight. The judge in the Field's case would've made my sister find an attorney that was against the legalization of pot. That doesn't make sense to me.


The weird thing to me was that nothing new came out in the trial as far as I could tell from the reporting. I thought there'd be some evidence presented on what actually happened during those crucial 15-20 seconds. Was the car struck before Fields accelerated, as the video evidence suggests? Were all those guys with bats and pipes already attacking the car beforehand or only afterwards? Were they surrounding the car but not striking it?


What's really odd is that as far as I can tell Fields did not testify. That's really what I was waiting for. I would've like to have heard in his own words what happened. Did he hear his car being hit by the crowd? Did he see guys with bats coming after him?

I think it was probably a case of manslaughter but I don't see how it could possibly be first degree murder.

This ^^^. Unfortunately, us peons do not get a "get out of jail free" card when we "fear for our lives."

 

[Madison320]

This ^^^. Unfortunately, us peons do not get a "get out of jail free" card when we "fear for our lives."

I just read a very brief summary of the case, the prosecution lasted for 3 1/2 days the defense was 1 day.

No mention of the fact that the Antifa was armed with pipes and bats and was attacking the car. To me that's by far the most critical piece of evidence.


https://www.whsv.com/content/news/502204161.html

 

[PursuePeace]

I just read a very brief summary of the case, the prosecution lasted for 3 1/2 days the defense was 1 day.

No mention of the fact that the Antifa was armed with pipes and bats and was attacking the car. To me that's by far the most critical piece of evidence.


https://www.whsv.com/content/news/502204161.html

Yeah, here's a twitter feed of the entire trial:
https://twitter.com/NBC29Trials

I want to see a transcript of the trial to see the details. A video would be much better. I've not yet read anything so far to give me the impression that the defense was actually trying to win this case for their client. A transcript would give a better picture.

I wonder if his mother is even aware of all of the videos and evidence in her son's favor. Weird that between Dec 2017 and March 2018, Fields only made one call from jail.

This part I don't have verifiable sources so this is just hearsay, but I read where some people wanted to get together and fund a new attorney for Fields but Lunsford would not allow anyone to talk to her client.

 

[Grandmastersexsay]

Was there no GoFundMe for this guy? Is he that toxic? I imagine there would be people who would donate, just out of hatred for antifa. With a decent lawyer, he'd be able to appeal and get out of that court.

 

[Madison320]

Yeah, here's a twitter feed of the entire trial:
https://twitter.com/NBC29Trials

I want to see a transcript of the trial to see the details. A video would be much better. I've not yet read anything so far to give me the impression that the defense was actually trying to win this case for their client. A transcript would give a better picture.

I wonder if his mother is even aware of all of the videos and evidence in her son's favor. Weird that between Aug 2017 and March 2018, Fields only made one call from jail.

This part I don't have verifiable sources so this is just hearsay, but I read where some people wanted to get together and fund a new attorney for Fields but Lunsford would not allow anyone to talk to her client.

I was reading thru the twitter feed and came across this:

"The commonwealth rebutted the defense's argument that Fields could not intend to kill Heyer by saying he intended to kill anyone, not specifically Heyer."

WTF? Who needs a prosecuting attorney when the defense attorney is basically claiming the defendant is guilty? What a joke!

Edit: OK, I finished reading thru the twitter feed. What a joke. Basically the prosecution tried to show that Fields was a bad guy and the defense tried to show he was not that bad. I can't believe I waited a year and a half for this. I really thought it would be an actual trial and they'd have witnesses and videos of the actual events that took place. I was especially curious to hear how Fields described the event.

 

[PursuePeace]

I was reading thru the twitter feed and came across this:

"The commonwealth rebutted the defense's argument that Fields could not intend to kill Heyer by saying he intended to kill anyone, not specifically Heyer."

WTF? Who needs a prosecuting attorney when the defense attorney is basically claiming the defendant is guilty? What a joke!

Edit: OK, I finished reading thru the twitter feed. What a joke. Basically the prosecution tried to show that Fields was a bad guy and the defense tried to show he was not that bad. I can't believe I waited a year and a half for this. I really thought it would be an actual trial and they'd have witnesses and videos of the actual events that took place. I was especially curious to hear how Fields described the event.

Exactly my thoughts.

 

[PursuePeace]

Just some more info:

https://www.wdbj7.com/content/news/...tch-emotional-video-of-Fields--501902241.html

Young then played body worn camera footage of his first encounter with Fields. The footage was taken after Fields drove his car into the crowd of counter protesters. Young and Fields were on Monticello Ave. where Fields stopped his car after driving away from the scene on 4th and Water St.

In the video, Fields apologizes more than six times.

When asked why he is sorry he said, “I’m sorry that…that I…I don’t know.”

Fields continued talking to the officer voluntarily.

“I didn’t want to hurt anyone, but they were attacking me. Even if they were attacking…they’re still people,” said Fields. “I feel bad for them.”

Fields told officers that members of “antifa”, short for "anti-fascist" a left-leaning, anti-racist group, were throwing stuff at him.

During testimony, Young jumped ahead to when Fields was in the interrogation room at the Charlottesville Police Department.
Fields asked the officer how the people he hit were doing. The officer told Fields that people were injured and that one person died.

In the video, Fields appears to go into a panicked state for about two minutes. He was breathing heavily and crying. After two minutes, Fields was able to calm himself down.

While the video played in court, Fields tapped his pencil rapidly and looked down.

Lastly, Fields was taken to the magistrate’s office. Jurors watched footage from an officer’s body camera when the magistrate asked Fields if he had anything to say.

Fields said he saw the two cars stuck at the bottom of the street. He said he had his GPS out and was trying to go home. Fields told the magistrate that he noticed a crowd surrounding the two cars and he felt like people were coming at him.

“I didn’t know what to do,” said Fields.


He said he backed up and couldn’t see much after the crash. In the video, Fields said his back windshield was broken. He wasn’t aware an officer was following him and as soon as he noticed, he said he immediately pulled over.

The defense pointed out that before Fields had his mug shot taken, he asked to clean his face.

Denise Lunsford, Fields’ attorney, asked Young if Fields' face was red and he had tears in his eyes. Young said it appeared as though Fields was red in the face.

Notice this: "Fields told officers that members of “antifa”, short for "anti-fascist" a left-leaning, anti-racist group, were throwing stuff at him."

So they're a "left leaning anti-racist group". No. They're a radical domestic terrorist group who throw urine and feces on people, intimidate and incite violence, cover their faces, block sidewalks and streets, throw bottles, swing bats and batons, smash cars, etc. etc.

The media convicted him less than one minute after the event occurred.
The media controls EVERYTHING.

Disclaimer: This is just an opinion of what MAY have happened -
What if they had given an alternate view, such as this one, which very well could be closer to the truth than what the media pushed:

 

[Champ]

Just some more info:

https://www.wdbj7.com/content/news/...tch-emotional-video-of-Fields--501902241.html



Notice this: "Fields told officers that members of “antifa”, short for "anti-fascist" a left-leaning, anti-racist group, were throwing stuff at him."

So they're a "left leaning anti-racist group". No. They're a radical domestic terrorist group who throw urine and feces on people, intimidate and incite violence, cover their faces, block sidewalks and streets, throw bottles, swing bats and batons, smash cars, etc. etc.

The media convicted him less than one minute after the event occurred.
The media controls EVERYTHING.

Disclaimer: This is just an opinion of what MAY have happened -
What if they had given an alternate view, such as this one, which very well could be closer to the truth than what the media pushed:

This. We all knew the second the media was covering this with the veracity that they did, that it was over for this man. Since the initial coverage, all kinds of evidence can be shown detailing the fact that things did not go down the way the media presented them. Having an unpopular or racist opinion is not a substitute for irrevocable guilt. Yet, the court treated this case as if the media was the key eyewitness and convicted based on their take, not evidence, not law. Also, what happened to a "speedy trial, lasting no longer than 30 days"? Did it really take them the year and a half to get all of their ducks in a row to ensure a quick 3-4 day conviction? Lawyers, judges, justice.. what a joke. "Justice" has been dead in this country for longer than we would care to imagine.

 

[Anti Globalist]

Sucks that this guy didn't get a fair trial. Certainly didn't help that the guy was a neo-nazi. Had he not been one, his chances of being found not guilty would have been better.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Sucks that this guy didn't get a fair trial. Certainly didn't help that the guy was a neo-nazi. Had he not been one, his chances of being found not guilty would have been better.

Soon all legal cases will be decided by your politics in any liberal jurisdiction.

That WILL lead to civil war.

 

[Madison320]

This. We all knew the second the media was covering this with the veracity that they did, that it was over for this man. Since the initial coverage, all kinds of evidence can be shown detailing the fact that things did not go down the way the media presented them. Having an unpopular or racist opinion is not a substitute for irrevocable guilt. Yet, the court treated this case as if the media was the key eyewitness and convicted based on their take, not evidence, not law. Also, what happened to a "speedy trial, lasting no longer than 30 days"? Did it really take them the year and a half to get all of their ducks in a row to ensure a quick 3-4 day conviction? Lawyers, judges, justice.. what a joke. "Justice" has been dead in this country for longer than we would care to imagine.

This case seems different from the other high profile "right vs left" type cases. For example Jena6, Duke Lacrosse, Michael Brown, Zimmerman, etc. In those cases the verdict in the trial was the opposite of the verdict that the MSM had decided upon. Those trials didn't seem to be rigged like this one was.

 

[TheCount]

Has Individual-1 said anything about this?

 

[phill4paul]

Has Individual-1 said anything about this?

Ooooo, edgy. Using the term "Individual-1" instead of President Trump. I bet your wit just makes you the belle of the ball.

 

[devil21]

Wow. This is a long article, but it's a very good read. I wanted to quote the entire thing. So this poor guy spent over 2 years in jail, lost his job, lost his home and all of his savings over this.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics...a-steiniger-text-case-finally-overturned.html

That shows how she is as an attorney. There's other stuff out there about her mess of a personal life and, iirc, a major scandal that was the main reason she lost re-election. I don't recall a lot of specifics but I do remember digging into her background when she was appointed and found all sorts of shit about her. It all fit with the serious possibility that Fields may have been a patsy for a psyop. It is a recurring theme with these high profile questionable events/court cases that the court appointed attorney clearly plays for Team State.

(eta: and keep buying those fancy new cars that are capable of being remotely controlled! that'll always end well.)

 

[RonPaulMall]

This case seems different from the other high profile "right vs left" type cases. For example Jena6, Duke Lacrosse, Michael Brown, Zimmerman, etc. In those cases the verdict in the trial was the opposite of the verdict that the MSM had decided upon. Those trials didn't seem to be rigged like this one was.

The media got high on their own supply in those cases and kept reporting on them. With this case, they had about a one week orgy of hate in which they declared him a "terrorist" and maintained a strict boycott. So unlike those other cases, public never had the opportunity to find out the true details of the case.

 

[Swordsmyth]

The agent provocateur speaks out on the verdict:


Chris Cantwell, a.k.a. the “Crying Nazi,” responded to the conviction of James Fields, who was found guilty of first-degree murder for plowing a car into protesters in Charlottesville, by threatening “complete and total destruction” of “Charlottesville and the broad left” in a post on social network Gab.

In his post, Cantwell claimed the conviction would create “an army of fanatics who are ready to die” and “drive us toward [Charlottesville and the left’s] complete and total destruction, as a matter of necessity for our very survival.” But, contrarily, Cantwell also distanced himself and his followers from Fields, describing him as as “best as I can tell… a good, if troubled man” but claimed he was “not a soldier” in their movement.

In May, he claimed to be an FBI informant

More at: https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/crying-nazi-chris-cantwell-promises-192327632.html

 

[Swordsmyth]

A jury recommends that the man who rammed his car into a crowd of people during the 'Unite the Right' rally in Charlottesville in 2017 should spend life in prison plus 419 years behind bars.
James Alex Fields, 21, was found guilty of first-degree murder, five counts of aggravated malicious wounding and three counts of malicious wounding in the incident.
The jury reached the decision after about four hours of deliberations, according to The Associated Press. The judge in the case will ultimately hand down the sentence.

The 10 charges Fields faced in this trial in the Charlottesville City Circuit Court are separate from the 30 federal charges he faces that relate to hate crimes. One of those federal charges is eligible for the death penalty. He entered a not guilty plea in both the Circuit Court case and to the federal charges.

More at: https://www.yahoo.com/gma/jury-reco...ttesville-173903382--abc-news-topstories.html

 

[Madison320]

The media got high on their own supply in those cases and kept reporting on them. With this case, they had about a one week orgy of hate in which they declared him a "terrorist" and maintained a strict boycott. So unlike those other cases, public never had the opportunity to find out the true details of the case.

I think one reason this case was different is that the right wing media never picked up on it. Maybe it was too toxic. In those other cases the MSM would make misleading claims then it would get ridiculed by guys like Limbaugh. For example in the Zimmerman case the MSM started off by showing photos of a mean looking overweight version of Zimmerman and a photo of Martin when he was 12 years old. The right wing media pointed out that Martin was actually bigger than Zimmerman at the time of the incident. It was so silly that they had to stop doing it and move on to a different misleading claim, like the photos that supposedly showed Zimmerman with no injuries to his head. In this case there was absolutely no one to rebut the MSM claims so they got to show whatever they wanted. For example have you noticed how they only show the videos where Fields is hitting the pedestrians and they never show the videos where guys are attacking his car with bats and pipes?