Chambliss says he'll break anti-tax pledge. attacks Grover Norquist

[Agorism]

Saxby Chambliss: 'I Care A Lot More About' America Than About Grover Norquist (VIDEO)


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...r-norquist_n_2177333.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

 

[itshappening]

Big government conservative.

 

[RickyJ]

Insane! More taxes at a time like this will be all the force this economy needs to start free falling off the cliff it is balancing on now.

 

[realtonygoodwin]

Sounds like he wants to be primaried...

Trying to discuss some potential opponents over here:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?396541-Georgia-Senate-race-contenders

 

[Anti Federalist]

LoL - The O-Bomb-ya spanking sure has flushed out the wobblies.

Hell yeah, more taxes, let it all burn to the fucking ground, fuck you and your zombie constituents as well.

Ya'll are gonna get what you deserve.

This is the aftermath of 1996 all over again.

LOLOLOLOLOL

 

[juleswin]

Insane! More taxes at a time like this will be all the force this economy needs to start free falling off the cliff it is balancing on now.

Is he really insane? How is he any more insane than all those senators and representative who signed the no tax pledge and then voted a budget that increases spending. A budget that will be paid for by debt passed on to the next generation and money printing (hurts the poor, savers and people with fixed income the most). If anything, he should be commended for willing to actually raise the taxes for people living in the now and not try to kick the can down the road.

I wish he will raise the taxes of everyone to pay for every penny of spending increase. Balanced budget baby. Maybe and just maybe then, American will wake up and realize what is being done to them

 

[Zippyjuan]

Simple math. Vote to give people money via spending- more voters like you- try to cut programs and they vote against you. Promise they won't have to pay for anything by not raising taxes to cover the new spending- and they like you. But if you want to balance the budget you will have to both raise taxes and cut spending- both unpopular choices.

 

[juleswin]

Simple math. Vote to give people money via spending- more voters like you- try to cut programs and they vote against you. Promise they won't have to pay for anything by not raising taxes to cover the new spending- and they like you. But if you want to balance the budget you will have to both raise taxes and cut spending- both unpopular choices.

Exactly, everyone wants to go to heaven but nobody wants to die. I think Ron Paul has a budget with only spending cut but there is no way in this world that would pass. At this point, you gonna need to raise taxes a little just to get some dem vote to pass it.

 

[Zippyjuan]

When I checked Ron's numbers they used the assumption that revenues grew too -going off the top of my head but think it was about 25% over five years so even his wasn't all just from cuts in spending. But nobody else was willing to even try aside from Rand.

Link to pdf: http://www.ronpaul.com/media/RestoreAmericaPlan.pdf

In it revenues (tax collections) would rise from $2.476 trillion in 2012 to $3.069 trillion by 2016 (three years- not five- a 24% increase).

 

[Zatch]

Any of the primary challengers will be better than Saxby Chambliss. He voted for the bailout, he's a big time champion of farm subsidies, he fought hard against F-22 fighter cuts because Georgia would lose some jobs etc.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Any of the primary challengers will be better than Saxby Chambliss. He voted for the bailout, he's a big time champion of farm subsidies, he fought hard against F-22 fighter cuts because Georgia would lose some jobs etc.

To be fair, the F-22 cuts were pretty stupid given that 90% of the F-22 project had already been spent, and then after canceling the F-22 they just turned around and started from zero on the ATF project. From a fiscally conservative perspective, we'd have been better off to let the F-22 go ahead and finish, and then let the Advanced Tactical Fighter project go away.

Of course, that's not why Chambliss took the position, he took it for home-town payola and jobs of course. So his position on this was clearly for the wrong reasons.

All I'm saying is don't just assume the F-22 cancelation was a good idea just because it was a cut. That 'cut' was more akin to paying 90% of the mortgage on a house, then with only 10% left on the note let the bank repossess the house only to turn around and buy another (different but similar) house. From a fiscally conservative perspective, we'd have been better off to pay the last 10% on the first house and stay there.

 

[matt0611]

It's not Grover Norquist who you'll need to answer to Saxby, its the voters of your state who will hopefully primary you next time around.

 

[Matt Collins]

Senator Chambliss (R-GA) to violate anti-tax pledge

Looks like he is going to try and raise taxes -

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/23/top-republican-senator-distances-himself-from-norquist-anti-tax-pledge/?test=latestnews




If you watch the video coming out of that link above you'll see FNC trying to give cover to Republicans who are about to cave

 

[Matt Collins]

 

[juleswin]

At least he would be more consistent that those other republicans you only vote for increase in spending without voting for taxing increase. I dont support what he is doing but to me, he is better than the other type of republicans who only abide by the no tax increase pledge and not the no spending increases.

If you think I am wrong with my assessment, feel free to tell me why.

 

[Origanalist]

Polititian signs pledge, polititian breaks pledge. Same old, same old.

 

[Matt Collins]

Polititian signs pledge, polititian breaks pledge. Same old, same old.

But this one is a lot more tangible than most. Meaning it's easier to get a politician unelected for breaking this particular pledge.

 

[Origanalist]

But this one is a lot more tangible than most. Meaning it's easier to get a politician unelected for breaking this particular pledge.

Well, that would be good. It does happen, sometimes.

 

[aGameOfThrones]

"I care more about this country than I do about a 20-year-old pledge,"

"If we do it his way, then we'll continue in debt, and I just have a disagreement with him about that."

"Grover Norquist has no plan to pay this debt down. His plan says you continue to add to the debt. I just have a fundamental disagreement with him about that,"

http://news.yahoo.com/chambliss-latest-republican-break-anti-tax-lobbyist-014652789.html

 

[Keith and stuff]

The title of the article isn't accurate. Oh well. It isn't unusual for the Huffington Post to lie.