CFR article about Collapse of the US Empire ...must read!

[TomAlciere]

It is important to remember that there already is no such thing as the government. It is wholly imaginary. A lot of people think there is such a thing as the government but actually there is only such a thing as the bureaucrats.

Catholics believe that when the priest consecrates the bread and wine, they become the body ald blood of Jesus Christ, which is called transubstantiation. There is a religion whose creed is, God Bless Anerica and Semper fidelis and they believe that when some politicians manufacture a document, embellished with a fancy seal, and the Governor scribbles his autograph on it, it becomes a law, which is called legislation and they believe we all have a sacred duty to obey the inanimate document.

Were the Acts of the Confederate Congress laws? Were Southern men, aged 17-50 required by law to serve in the Confederate Army, or were they threatened with violence by illegal rebels if they did not join the rebellion? Can the duty/no-duty question depend on the success of the campaign, and the outcomes of battles not yet fought?

If a man and a woman bring a marriage license to a Justice of the Peace and go through the ceremony, are they married? How can their marital status during their honeymoon depend on the decision later, to seek or not seek an annulment?

Once people realize that they have no duty to obey the bureaucrats AND no fear of the goons loyal to the bureaucrats, the end will be here.

 

[devil21]

I agree. The financial powers have had unchallenged control over the greatest wealth-producing machine in the history of the planet. And they would intentionally destroy that for what? A very risky plan to have some kind of global version?

Like anything, there comes a saturation point. A tipping point where it costs more to maintain the status quo than can be profited from it. It's like saying that owning a 20 year old car makes you rich, even when the maintenance on the car to keep it running now outweighs the blue book value. We are fast approaching that tipping point and of course those at the helm see it coming and are planning accordingly. For people that were able to immensely profit from the "greatest wealth producing machine in history" to not see an inevitable collapse coming and to not act to shape the collapse to their benefit (as always) defies logic IMHO. So like the car analogy, what does someone do? They junk the old car and buy a new one but they junk it on their terms and their timeline so they are inconvenienced as little as possible and can move to the new vehicle without issue.

 

[RedStripe]

They are intentionally collapsing the system because they already have a new system planned to replace it. The goal is secular global governance. Everything is done incrementally by tptb.

See, I used to have this conspiratorial view of how social institutions evolve over time, but then I realized how complex such an evolution actually is. While it may be possible to trace trends towards global governance (as conspiracy theorists do - but when the CFR intellectuals track the same trend they're suddenly part of some grand conspiracy) that doesn't mean those trends are the product of some intentional conspiracy, much less that the various trends even have the same cause.

Yes, the system is collapsing, but for many different reasons. No one - neither the conspiracy theorists nor the CFR/Trilateral/etc intellectuals has a complete grasp of how the machinery of our society works. But we know enough to realize that it is, in many ways, a house of cards. A house of cards which is the source of the economic and political power wielded by the elite. They have absolutely no reason to want to destroy it. Why jeopardize what they have?

I really think you have to just realize how complex "the elite" itself actually is. There are tons of different opposing interests within the power structure, and none of the people and institutions comprising the elite actually have a full picture of what's going on. Many are completely oblivious. They are like the old nobility - powerful within their system but not powerful enough to direct the ultimate course of history or even see it coming.

 

[devil21]

^^^^^
A few points:

1. Most of these "elites" in question have little or no attachment to any particular country. They consider themselves citizens of the World, not Americans. There's an obvious attachment to Israel running through the CFR but that's for another topic.

2. One only has to look at the history of the banking families to see that they spread around the world and "take over" countries. Again, there's no attachment. Profit and control is all that matters. Never consider the bankers to be "oblivious" or "not powerful enough". Their influence to do pretty much whatever they want has been documented many times over.

3. They do sometimes have opposing interests but it's basically the same as what you see in Congress today. The opposing interests, D/R, are only important up until the point where they are losing control, then those opposing interests are forgotten in favor of the more important mutual interest....maintaining control.

 

[Deborah K]

See, I used to have this conspiratorial view of how social institutions evolve over time, but then I realized how complex such an evolution actually is. While it may be possible to trace trends towards global governance (as conspiracy theorists do - but when the CFR intellectuals track the same trend they're suddenly part of some grand conspiracy) that doesn't mean those trends are the product of some intentional conspiracy, much less that the various trends even have the same cause.

Yes, the system is collapsing, but for many different reasons. No one - neither the conspiracy theorists nor the CFR/Trilateral/etc intellectuals has a complete grasp of how the machinery of our society works. But we know enough to realize that it is, in many ways, a house of cards. A house of cards which is the source of the economic and political power wielded by the elite. They have absolutely no reason to want to destroy it. Why jeopardize what they have?

I really think you have to just realize how complex "the elite" itself actually is. There are tons of different opposing interests within the power structure, and none of the people and institutions comprising the elite actually have a full picture of what's going on. Many are completely oblivious. They are like the old nobility - powerful within their system but not powerful enough to direct the ultimate course of history or even see it coming.

The handwriting is on the wall. They've established the U.N.. They've merged Europe into one union. They're working on merging the U.S., Canada and Mexico, and they'll do it in other regions as well, peacefully if they can, forcefully if not. And the CFR is part of the underpinning:

http://www.cfr.org/publication/8102/building_a_north_american_community.html

http://www.cfr.org/publication/7914..._economic_and_security_community_by_2010.html

http://bookstore.petersoninstitute.org/book-store/331.html

Here is a model for a North American Parliament: http://www.fina-nafi.org/eng/fina/pr....asp?count=eng

And here is the timeline for global governance: http://www.revolutionmarch.com/images/NAU_timeline_Current.pdf

Here is the indoctrination going on in our colleges:

http://www.asu.edu/clas/nacts/bna/

http://www1.american.edu/ia/cnas/index.cfm

 

[Erazmus]

They've merged Europe into one union.

I still think the European Union is on very shaky ground. I hope it falls apart.

 

[Deborah K]

I still think the European Union is on very shaky ground. I hope it falls apart.

Me too.

 

[devil21]

The handwriting is on the wall. They've established the U.N.. They've merged Europe into one union. They're working on merging the U.S., Canada and Mexico, and they'll do it in other regions as well, peacefully if they can, forcefully if not. And the CFR is part of the underpinning:

http://www.cfr.org/publication/8102/building_a_north_american_community.html

http://www.cfr.org/publication/7914..._economic_and_security_community_by_2010.html

http://bookstore.petersoninstitute.org/book-store/331.html

Here is a model for a North American Parliament: http://www.fina-nafi.org/eng/fina/pr....asp?count=eng

And here is the timeline for global governance: http://www.revolutionmarch.com/images/NAU_timeline_Current.pdf

Here is the indoctrination going on in our colleges:

http://www.asu.edu/clas/nacts/bna/

http://www1.american.edu/ia/cnas/index.cfm

Nice links! They're not even quiet about it. It's right there in your face if you know where to look.

 

[FrankRep]

Nice links! They're not even quiet about it. It's right there in your face if you know where to look.

A Case for Repealing NAFTA and Blocking the North American Union

A Case for Repealing NAFTA and Blocking the NAU - DVD


The History of NAFTA and the Council on Foreign Relations

YouTube - The History of NAFTA and the Council on Foreign Relations


Could it happen here?
The Real Face of the European Union

The Real Face of the European Union

 

[sofia]

article ignores one key fact.....the decline is deliberately being engineered

 

[LibForestPaul]

The idea that the people who are benefiting the most from the current system would intentionally destroy it, or the idea that they could even do so by plan, is pretty absurd to me.

The system is simply collapsing under its own weight. Sure, the elites will react in a predictable fashion: they will try respond to their own incentives and agenda in light of the circumstances as they become known to them. This means they will obviously take advantage of the situation as best they can, as they always do with anything. As any human would.

No...
"the global economy flipped from boom to bust -- all because a bunch of Americans started to default on their sub-prime mortgages,"

Stupid Americans borrowing beyond their means destroyed the world economy. They must be punished. It has nothing to do with the elites or the international financiers. Bubba and Ethel are the cause of the great Armageddon, and they must pay for it with their blood.

 

[MsDoodahs]

Just flipped over to CNBC World, saw a clip of two guys testifying on the Hill today, one of them was the author of this article....

 

[american.swan]

No...
"the global economy flipped from boom to bust -- all because a bunch of Americans started to default on their sub-prime mortgages,"

Stupid Americans borrowing beyond their means destroyed the world economy. They must be punished. It has nothing to do with the elites or the international financiers. Bubba and Ethel are the cause of the great Armageddon, and they must pay for it with their blood.

I'd have to disagree because the instruments were created by the very people wanting to manufacture the collapse. The NY Fed hid debt for Lehman Brothers and other banks probably for the sole reason of causing the collapse. The bailouts were to cover the debt the other banks were hiding at the Fed banks too. Also, the debt was giving poor people huge loans they KNEW had to fail. Krugman, an insider, suggested the housing bubble in 2001. He likely didn't suggest it. He knew in advance what was going to happen.

 

[MN Patriot]

I'd have to disagree because the instruments were created by the very people wanting to manufacture the collapse. The NY Fed hid debt for Lehman Brothers and other banks probably for the sole reason of causing the collapse. The bailouts were to cover the debt the other banks were hiding at the Fed banks too. Also, the debt was giving poor people huge loans they KNEW had to fail. Krugman, an insider, suggested the housing bubble in 2001. He likely didn't suggest it. He knew in advance what was going to happen.

I get the impression the banksters and elites try to push the economic system to the boundaries of collapse, just to see how far they can go and how much power they really have. Kind of like kids playing with fire and gasoline, or physicists experimenting with plutonium.
The elites are above punishment for what they do. Some of the very worst, like Bernie Madoff, are caught and punished for their obvious transgressions, but the few people running the Fed and all the rest of the institutions will never be punished. They have their billions of dollars. What fun is accumulating a few billion more? Go for higher stakes, political and economic power over nations.

 

[Vessol]

No...
"the global economy flipped from boom to bust -- all because a bunch of Americans started to default on their sub-prime mortgages,"

Stupid Americans borrowing beyond their means destroyed the world economy. They must be punished. It has nothing to do with the elites or the international financiers. Bubba and Ethel are the cause of the great Armageddon, and they must pay for it with their blood.

It is partially that fault. If a man offers you a piece of delicious candy, and at a really low price compared to what it normally is, most people would take it. And when it makes them horribly sick and such as the man wanted to, it is not wholely their fault, but it is partially their fault for being duped.

 

[njalbertini]

Why don't we incorporate the lessons of Systems Theory to avoid this?

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