CFR article about Collapse of the US Empire ...must read!

[Travlyr]

Hair splitting. They are co-opting every attempt to thwart them and mudslinging with a controled media. With social services to destroy the family and a medical community that medicates at the drop of a hat anyone who resists has some serious consequences at the ready to deal with the situation. Not to mention a militarized police force with weapons well beyond the capacity of a citizen to combat. Suggestions now?

My only suggestion now is that I am going to keep looking for courageous people that want to do something about it rather than talk about it.

 

[dannno]

Yea, it really was a great article.

It really describes the reasons I don't worry so much about "the elites" and their plans. The system is incredibly complex, and far too complex for the elites (including the CFR, as an organization) to truly control (although they do exert influence over the system). It's important to keep in mind that the elites themselves are a product of the very system in which they play a particular role. It's the mechanisms, the structure, and the philosophy that are actually most important - not the particular actors (though they do play a role).

Just as they are responding to the incentives that naturally accompany their position in the system, and their environmental circumstances, we are doing the same thing by rejecting the system itself. Our rejection of the system is a natural consequence of our experiences and position within it.

I agree with a lot of the things you said, obviously the elites can't control every little thing.. but they are responsible for pushing our country off the cliff, it was on purpose and now they are writing about that it's going to happen (of course mostly only them will read it)

 

[pcosmar]

Not to mention a militarized police force with weapons well beyond the capacity of a citizen to combat. Suggestions now?

I do not believe that for a second.
As far as suggestions,,,

I am very careful about what I don't say.

 

[FrankRep]

Yea, it really was a great article.

It really describes the reasons I don't worry so much about "the elites" and their plans. The system is incredibly complex, and far too complex for the elites (including the CFR, as an organization) to truly control (although they do exert influence over the system).

Money is the name of the game....


"Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws."

- Mayer Amschel Rothschild

 

[ctiger2]

Very interesting article. Sounds like a warning to those who expect it to be a long, drawn-out collapse. The U.S. is teetering on the edge of the precipice, and just one incident could tip it over. I just wish I knew if it was going to happen this year or in 10 years.

Martin Armstrong uses Fibonacci sequence to determine timelines and he says the current USD based financial system will last until 2012.75.

Page 21 of Creating the Floating Exchange Rate System : The Fate of the Dollar 2010 and Beyond

 

[moostraks]

I do not believe that for a second.
As far as suggestions,,,

I am very careful about what I don't say.

ahh...but you are extra-ordinary

FWIW...I am thinking along the lines of drones and bizarre mechanizations such as sound weapons. So you know where my thinking is on this....

 

[moostraks]

My only suggestion now is that I am going to keep looking for courageous people that want to do something about it rather than talk about it.

Doing what is more the question as they are controling so many alternative options. For the heroic talk that you propose I am curious as to exactly what might be effective at this point. I am sorry if it comes across snarky, but I am not seeing where their weakness is considering all the different means they have to combat opposition currently and the awake are far out numbered by the sleeping....

 

[Deborah K]

Anyone ever seen 'Esoteric Agenda'? ESOTERIC AGENDA NAPISY PL FULL

 

[AuH20]

Doing what is more the question as they are controling so many alternative options. For the heroic talk that you propose I am curious as to exactly what might be effective at this point. I am sorry if it comes across snarky, but I am not seeing where their weakness is considering all the different means they have to combat opposition currently and the awake are far out numbered by the sleeping....

Their weakness is that they're composed of flesh and blood just like you and I. The common citizen lauds the police state as demi-gods when in actuality it's a loosely constructed hierarchy of craven parasites. I constantly hear, "OMG. They have smart bombs, AC-130 gunships, and cruise missiles." Do you really think they would forfeit their manufactured public image and create an even greater resistance by using these weapons in public neighborhoods? Yes, their PR teams are good but not that good.

 

[RedStripe]

I agree with a lot of the things you said, obviously the elites can't control every little thing.. but they are responsible for pushing our country off the cliff, it was on purpose and now they are writing about that it's going to happen (of course mostly only them will read it)

The idea that the people who are benefiting the most from the current system would intentionally destroy it, or the idea that they could even do so by plan, is pretty absurd to me.

The system is simply collapsing under its own weight. Sure, the elites will react in a predictable fashion: they will try respond to their own incentives and agenda in light of the circumstances as they become known to them. This means they will obviously take advantage of the situation as best they can, as they always do with anything. As any human would.

 

[moostraks]

Their weakness is that they're composed of flesh and blood just like you and I. The common citizen lauds the police state as demi-gods when in actuality it's a loosely constructed hierarchy of craven parasites. I constantly hear, "OMG. They have smart bombs, AC-130 gunships, and cruise missiles." Do you really think they would forfeit their manufactured public image and create an even greater resistance by using these weapons in public neighborhoods? Yes, their PR teams are good but not that good.

Have you yourself gone up against one of their propaganda machines personnally? I have with social services and the healthcare industry and what you focus on its their last resort in a complete anarchy situation (which I doubt would happen because there just aren't enough people that forthright and determined). A miniature revolt will be played out on the news as how the government is protecting the average citizen. And your average citizen will be shown to be agreeing with the government.

They are working on people individually and breaking down their resolve through the agencies such as I was harassed by. The education system is destroying the minds of future generations to create the docile servant. I am failing to see their exploitable weaknesses when everything continues to be rammed through despite loud opposition...

My frustraction level is rather high right now regarding this issue....

 

[moostraks]

The idea that the people who are benefiting the most from the current system would intentionally destroy it, or the idea that they could even do so by plan, is pretty absurd to me.

The system is simply collapsing under its own weight. Sure, the elites will react in a predictable fashion: they will try respond to their own incentives and agenda in light of the circumstances as they become known to them. This means they will obviously take advantage of the situation as best they can, as they always do with anything. As any human would.

Not very ridiculous if you are merely following intellectual theory regarding the life expectancy of an empire and you control the supposed opposition in order to usher in a new era. Really an ingenuous plan if you can displace what your mind insists is rational beings with limited control. They really do have enough money and power to achieve this scenario....

 

[Deborah K]

The idea that the people who are benefiting the most from the current system would intentionally destroy it, or the idea that they could even do so by plan, is pretty absurd to me.

The system is simply collapsing under its own weight. Sure, the elites will react in a predictable fashion: they will try respond to their own incentives and agenda in light of the circumstances as they become known to them. This means they will obviously take advantage of the situation as best they can, as they always do with anything. As any human would.

They are intentionally collapsing the system because they already have a new system planned to replace it. The goal is secular global governance. Everything is done incrementally by tptb.

 

[Erazmus]

Very interesting article. Sounds like a warning to those who expect it to be a long, drawn-out collapse. The U.S. is teetering on the edge of the precipice, and just one incident could tip it over. I just wish I knew if it was going to happen this year or in 10 years.

My thinking is the dollar will bottom out first. When, like you said, is an unknown. I don't think it will take long, not longer than 5 years. I mean, the Fed is still printing like mad. The stimulus is pretty much gone, so we'll see another downfall in the economy, thus more printing. I think the bulk of this rests on China. We've already seen the US credit rating downgraded (should be worse than it is now). Currently, based on Mises, we are still in Phase 1 inflation.

 

[Travlyr]

Doing what is more the question as they are controling so many alternative options. For the heroic talk that you propose I am curious as to exactly what might be effective at this point. I am sorry if it comes across snarky, but I am not seeing where their weakness is considering all the different means they have to combat opposition currently and the awake are far out numbered by the sleeping....

Right. However, IMHO electing liberty loving constitutionalists is the wrong tack. While I do have some ideas, I don't have the answers. Collectively we have enough intelligent people & tools that we can figure out the right strategy. I want to be on that team... and I keep looking for the right people.

 

[pcosmar]

They are intentionally collapsing the system because they already have a new system planned to replace it. The goal is secular global governance. Everything is done incrementally by tptb.

BINGO

And they are telegraphing their moves.

 

[emazur]

YouTube - CFR running simulation games on financial collapse

 

[FrankRep]

After reading that article, it reminds me of the Book: Tragedy & Hope

http://www.shopjbs.org/index.php/tragedy-and-hope.html

Professor Carroll Quigley praises the efforts of an "international Anglophile network" whose goal is to rule the world. He boasts of having been permitted "to examine its papers and secret records," confirms the existence of an over-arching conspiracy, and details the origin and eventual power of the Council on Foreign Relations and allied groups. (1997 ed, 1,348pp, hb)​

YouTube - CFR and the Media

 

[Travlyr]

YouTube - CFR running simulation games on financial collapse

Clipped it off the BBC. Hummmm???

 

[Acala]

Agree

The idea that the people who are benefiting the most from the current system would intentionally destroy it, or the idea that they could even do so by plan, is pretty absurd to me.

The system is simply collapsing under its own weight. Sure, the elites will react in a predictable fashion: they will try respond to their own incentives and agenda in light of the circumstances as they become known to them. This means they will obviously take advantage of the situation as best they can, as they always do with anything. As any human would.

I agree. The financial powers have had unchallenged control over the greatest wealth-producing machine in the history of the planet. And they would intentionally destroy that for what? A very risky plan to have some kind of global version? Why? A global currency avoids the embarassment of having various currencies played against each other as they inflate at different rates, but that has never stopped the money machine. It would be exchanging a bird in the hand for another bird in a very thorny bush.

And if these elites are smart enough to plan a global takeover, they are smart enough to know that socialism doesn't work and produces dramatically less wealth than freedom. So why kill off the most productive economy to erect a socialist world economy?

They just got greedy and killed the golden goose. They will, of course, save themselves and try to erect a new graft machine. But intentionally killing the world's greatest economy? I don't think so.