CFL State Organization Info

[Matt Collins]

well since the states are independent why don't you focus on that and you can put whatever bylaws in place that your state agrees too.

Oh absolutely. And we are working towards that end right now. We've got a state CFL event on Saturday and Rand will be there too.

But what good will it do us if we pass our own rules and by-laws just to later find out it doesn't jive with what the national CFL wants thus we can't get "recognized"?

 

[Melissa]

Oh absolutely. And we are working towards that end right now. We've got a state CFL event on Saturday and Rand will be there too.

But what good will it do us if we pass our own rules and by-laws just to later find out it doesn't jive with what the national CFL wants thus we can't get "recognized"?

as long as the state bylaws don't contradict the national bylaws I think you are safe and if you ask again about them, they are working on them, talk to your state coordinator they have most of the details

 

[Matt Collins]

as long as the state bylaws don't contradict the national bylaws I think you are safe

And how are we supposed to know if they contradict them?!!?

they are working on them, talk to your state coordinator they have most of the details

I am friends with my ISC, we meet often and trust me he is unable to answer the questions I am asking.

TN is ready to get their organization together, in fact we are having a large meeting on Saturday about it. But we can't put anything down on paper because we don't know exactly what the national binding documents are.

 

[Melissa]

And how are we supposed to know if they contradict them?!!?

I am friends with my ISC, we meet often and trust me he is unable to answer the questions I am asking.

TN is ready to get their organization together, in fact we are having a large meeting on Saturday about it. But we can't put anything down on paper because we don't know exactly what the national binding documents are.

Well if Rand Paul is going to be there ask him, he should be able to help.

 

[Matt Collins]

Well if Rand Paul is going to be there ask him, he should be able to help.

I plan to... but I don't see his name on the CFL leadership page.

 

[Melissa]

I plan to... but I don't see his name on the CFL leadership page.

Well I am betting if he don't know where to get the answer you sure arn't going to find it here on the forums either so if you question asking him why do you continue to ask in here. The forums here (I am betting) are not on the CFL leadership pages either

 

[Matt Collins]

Well I am betting if he don't know where to get the answer you sure arn't going to find it here on the forums either so if you question asking him why do you continue to ask in here. The forums here (I am betting) are not on the CFL leadership pages either

Actually I have asked Debbie Hopper a CFL leader in another thread. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=176051&page=4

Now all I hear are cricket chirps... why is that?

 

[Sandra]

Actually I have asked Debbie Hopper a CFL leader in another thread. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=176051&page=4

Now all I hear are cricket chirps... why is that?

Maybe it's because ... YOU ASKED ON HERE AGAIN. ASK ON C4L. You are using another RPF as a reference? Really?

 

[Dustancostine]

Matt, Just have Tennessee organize however it feels appropriate for you and worry about official CFL recognition later. That is what is going on in Texas, we are going to form an organization (or decide not to) based on what we want for our state, not what the CFL wants or what they CFL dictates. We are organizing first, worrying about the CFL later. If you and the people active in Tenn do the same and your ISC is on board then you will have nothing to worry about.

Not saying this is the case, but people in general should not complain that the CFL isn't giving them instruction and then complain that they are top down. Do what you need to do in Tennessee to spread liberty and freedom, only the people in Tennessee know what that is.

--Dustan

 

[Melissa]

Matt, Just have Tennessee organize however it feels appropriate for you and worry about official CFL recognition later. That is what is going on in Texas, we are going to form an organization (or decide not to) based on what we want for our state, not what the CFL wants or what they CFL dictates. We are organizing first, worrying about the CFL later. If you and the people active in Tenn do the same and your ISC is on board then you will have nothing to worry about.

Not saying this is the case, but people in general should not complain that the CFL isn't giving them instruction and then complain that they are top down. Do what you need to do in Tennessee to spread liberty and freedom, only the people in Tennessee know what that is.

--Dustan

+ billion............ this is all you need to know Matt and start working on

 

[angelatc]

Dustan has been in this movement for as long, or longer, than you have, Matt, and he is very active in Texas.


Cool it with the . It's way past ridiculous. We can all make a guess, but the reality is, that none of us really knows. So, if you have a question for C4L, go ask them, Matt. Unless your intention is really to spread doubt.

So now that you chased Bradley off, you're going to stalk Matt?

 

[Matt Collins]

this is all you need to know Matt and start working on

So now you get to decide what I "need to know"?

 

[Matt Collins]

Maybe it's because ... YOU ASKED ON HERE AGAIN.

That's because Debbie and I were having a conversation on here.... And then all of the sudden she stopped responding.

 

[Sandra]

Matt, do you realize that you are harassing anyone who make a thread about the CFL?

 

[LibertyEagle]

So now that you chased Bradley off, you're going to stalk Matt?

 

[angelatc]

I have my emoticons blocked.

You're in this thread because......?

 

[Sandra]

I have my emoticons blocked.

You're in this thread because......?

Wait... who's the moderator?

 

[Matt Collins]

Matt, Just have Tennessee organize however it feels appropriate for you and worry about official CFL recognition later.

That doesn't make any sense because then it'll have to go back and get redone if not up to the standards set by CFL-HQ. Why go through the effort just to possibly have to revisit it in a few months or a couple of years?

Why not just do it right the first time?

That is what is going on in Texas, we are going to form an organization (or decide not to) based on what we want for our state, not what the CFL wants or what they CFL dictates. We are organizing first, worrying about the CFL later. If you and the people active in Tenn do the same and your ISC is on board then you will have nothing to worry about.

And if the CFL decides later on it doesn't like what you have done and wants you to completely redo it?

Having a wishy-washy idea that no foundation is needed is very dangerous for the future of the organization. And in fact it makes zero logical sense.

Not saying this is the case, but people in general should not complain that the CFL isn't giving them instruction and then complain that they are top down.

You're absolutely right. There has to be a basic framework to work within if they want any coehesiveness whatsoever. We don't want top-down control of course, but there has to be SOMETHINGcoming from the top. Otherwise why even bother to have a national HQ?

Do what you need to do in Tennessee to spread liberty and freedom, only the people in Tennessee know what that is.

I agree. But while doing it under the CFL banner it would be nice to know what the CFL is. So far no binding documents about the organization.

 

[Matt Collins]

Matt, do you realize that you are harassing anyone who make a thread about the CFL?

Not so. I am however asking questions and seeking knowledge.

 

[angelatc]

Wait... who's the moderator?

And you are....?.