CFL Regional Conference - Atlanta - Ron Paul (Jan 15-17 2010!)

[Matt Collins]

On January 15-17, 2010, hundreds of Campaign for Liberty members will join Ron Paul and several special guests at the Sheraton Hotel in Atlanta, Georgia to show the establishment politicians and talking heads that we have had enough of their spending, regulations, interventions, and other dead-end policies.

Our Atlanta Regional Conference will be dedicated to kicking off a new year of action and ushering in A New Decade of Liberty!

Big government bureaucrats have had their way for far too long, and the results speak for themselves.

A $12 trillion national debt. Almost an additional $12 trillion in bailouts and loans. Troops stretched all around the world in over 170 countries. And a national health care takeover nightmare that threatens you with a fine and even possible jail time if you don’t have a government-approved plan.

We have the message. We have the movement. We have the motivation. And we have never been so strong.

If we stick together and stay the course, this is the decade we can turn back the tide and reclaim our Republic.

Our Campaign for Liberty Atlanta Regional Conference will:

* Strengthen your understanding of history and foundational principles necessary to maintain liberty.
* Teach you how to persuasively communicate our movement's mission and message.
* Train you in how to recruit, equip, and mobilize an army of informed citizens and build the organizational structure necessary to win.
* Help you master the political process on the local, state, and national levels.

Spend time with fellow liberty-minded activists, learn about history and current events from a freedom perspective you won't hear from the mainstream media, build your local organizations, and get ready to reclaim our country with top-notch training from seasoned experts.

Tickets for our grassroots training sessions are available for their lowest price ever – just $65! Seats are sure to fill up fast as more details are released, so reserve your spot today by signing up at our Atlanta Regional Conference event page.

Regional Conference attendees can book their rooms at the Sheraton Atlanta for the C4L special rate of $109.00 for a single/double and $119.00 for a triple/quad. You must make your reservations by Wednesday, December 30 to get our special conference rate. Reservations made after December 30 will be accepted at the Hotel's prevailing rate and based on room type availability.

This January, let’s show our country that legitimate change is finally on its way.

For more information visit the site:
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/event/2010atlanta.php

 

[dr. hfn]

these conferences are EPIC

 

[Matt Collins]

these conferences are EPIC

Yes at the St Louis conf a bunch of individuals were in the lobby of the hotel drunkenly yelling "F-The Fed" at the top of their lungs at 2am


But those individuals shall remain nameless

 

[LittleLightShining]

Where you go and learn how to take over the GOP. Ought to be interesting for you, Matt...

 

[Matt Collins]

Where you go and learn how to take over the GOP. Ought to be interesting for you, Matt...

They should sign me up to teach a class!

 

[Matt Collins]

There is a less expensive hotel across the street from the Sheraton, Baymont Inns and Suites, with rooms for $71/night +tax. If you are interested in potentially doing a group buy to get a lower rate in the secondary hotel, please contact [email protected]

 

[Indy Vidual]

Decent weather, wish I could afford to get away.

 

[LittleLightShining]

They should sign me up to teach a class!

They already have a guy that does that. What's a shame is he doesn't believe in our principles.

 

[speciallyblend]

They already have a guy that does that. What's a shame is he doesn't believe in our principles.

hmmm, no one has to be 100% in agreement in the ron paul movement. the whole uniting factor for the movement was the fact we can disagree on issues but not use the government to legislate against anothers opinion. this is another reason why the republican party is not growing, gay marriage, marijuana legalization and the failed drug war. these are issues left,right,center and up and down can disagree on but under a ron paul platform are not issues for the federal government.

I do not agree 100% with Ron Paul but he is who i support. This is where the ron paul movement needs to address reality. the main sticking points for a ron paul supporter that is cut and dry is the foreign policy for sure and economic issues,but the gop has no credibility on economic issues/or wars. when the gop is the one that helped create the mass of the government(examples the drug war, the undeclared wars under bush and the expansion of government under republicans).
like i have said before the problem with the gop is not obama or his politics. it is the republican party that has the problem and they try to deflect their unethical/corrupt gop leadership by yappin oooo obama every 10 seconds.

the gop has serious issues and they have yet to even come close to address them. i wouldn't lay blame with a cfl supporter but with the gop leadership themselves or lack of.

the only people to blame is the gop leadership for having deaf ears,blind eyes and lack of uniting issues with voters(gop is out of touch with many republicans and voters). obama may not be an option to many republican voters but what the gop is selling is not even an option(YET) even if the dems are running. i do not see the gop in colorado fillling the political vacuum. i suspect some republicans will win depending on districts,but i suspect alot of republicans will be removed from office by 3rd party candidates or dems or even ron paul dems and ron paul republicans that were alienated by the gop.

oo well if the gop keeps ignoring the ron paul platform. i will bet the gop will be the whigs of history in 2010/2012.I plan to hold gop leadership and republicans supporting this failed leadership accountable with my vote and my familys and friends.

 

[LittleLightShining]

hmmm, no one has to be 100% in agreement in the ron paul movement. the whole uniting factor for the movement was the fact we can disagree on issues but not use the government to legislate against anothers opinion. this is another reason why the republican party is not growing, gay marriage, marijuana legalization and the failed drug war. these are issues left,right,center and up and down can disagree on but under a ron paul platform are not issues for the federal government.

I do not agree 100% with Ron Paul but he is who i support. This is where the ron paul movement needs to address reality. the main sticking points for a ron paul supporter that is cut and dry is the foreign policy for sure and economic issues,but the gop has no credibility on economic issues/or wars. when the gop is the one that helped create the mass of the government(examples the drug war, the undeclared wars under bush and the expansion of government under republicans).
like i have said before the problem with the gop is not obama or his politics. it is the republican party that has the problem and they try to deflect their unethical/corrupt gop leadership by yappin oooo obama every 10 seconds.

the gop has serious issues and they have yet to even come close to address them. i wouldn't lay blame with a cfl supporter but with the gop leadership themselves or lack of.

the only people to blame is the gop leadership for having deaf ears,blind eyes and lack of uniting issues with voters(gop is out of touch with many republicans and voters). obama may not be an option to many republican voters but what the gop is selling is not even an option(YET) even if the dems are running. i do not see the gop in colorado fillling the political vacuum. i suspect some republicans will win depending on districts,but i suspect alot of republicans will be removed from office by 3rd party candidates or dems or even ron paul dems and ron paul republicans that were alienated by the gop.

oo well if the gop keeps ignoring the ron paul platform. i will bet the gop will be the whigs of history in 2010/2012.I plan to hold gop leadership and republicans supporting this failed leadership accountable with my vote and my familys and friends.

How do you feel about money from the C4L going to a guy to teach C4Lers about infiltrating the GOP who DOES NOT agree with the non-intervenionist foreign policy plank of the C4L statement of principles?

 

[Matt Collins]

They already have a guy that does that. What's a shame is he doesn't believe in our principles.

How do you feel about money from the C4L going to a guy to teach C4Lers about infiltrating the GOP who DOES NOT agree with the non-intervenionist foreign policy plank of the C4L statement of principles?

Campaign tactics are the same whether you are Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, etc. Do you think your algebra teacher must agree with your political philosophy?


Personally I'd love to learn political strategy from James Carville and Karl Rove even though philosophically I disagree with them.

And the honest truth is that there are VERY few successful political strategists that a liberty leaning. We haven't had much success in a while.

 

[Matt Collins]

Decent weather, wish I could afford to get away.

Decent weather in Atlanta during January ?!?!

You've obviously never been there.

 

[Matt Collins]

Bump. Who is going?

 

[LittleLightShining]

Campaign tactics are the same whether you are Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, etc. Do you think your algebra teacher must agree with your political philosophy?


Personally I'd love to learn political strategy from James Carville and Karl Rove even though philosophically I disagree with them.

And the honest truth is that there are VERY few successful political strategists that a liberty leaning. We haven't had much success in a while.

Your talking points are awfully familiar. Seems I've heard them from someone else relatively recently. I do need to agree with my algebra teacher, my mechanic and my dancing school instructor in their areas of expertise. I would not go to algebra class expecting to be taught geometry. I would not take my Volvo to the Chevy dealership. I would not expect my tap dancing teacher to have mastered ballet. Of course there are people who can be really good at working on Volvo's and Chevy's and etc but I'd rather have my rig worked on by someone who understands MY car, not just cars in general.

That's just me. I don't want to compromise on principle. And as for C4L, which started out as an organization which had, as part of its core mission EDUCATION, I really don't want to hear about how educating people doesn't matter.

You can't really complain about the system and then expect to change it by doing what everyone else is doing. I prefer to take my cues from a consistent, principled man of integrity. A successful Republican congressman who doesn't do things the way everyone else does them and somehow keeps plugging away, building momentum, gaining devoted grassroots support and msm validation every day. (Have we forgotten him already?) Not because he jumps from issue to issue, flavor of the month money making opportunity or because he knows from experience how to run a slimy spoiler campaign like this supposed strategical genius Michael I. Rothfeld...

*sigh*

I don't know why you refuse to see what's going on...

 

[paulpwns]

Who is the person in question that is teaching?

 

[LibertyEagle]

Your talking points are awfully familiar. Seems I've heard them from someone else relatively recently. I do need to agree with my algebra teacher, my mechanic and my dancing school instructor in their areas of expertise. I would not go to algebra class expecting to be taught geometry. I would not take my Volvo to the Chevy dealership. I would not expect my tap dancing teacher to have mastered ballet. Of course there are people who can be really good at working on Volvo's and Chevy's and etc but I'd rather have my rig worked on by someone who understands MY car, not just cars in general.

That's just me. I don't want to compromise on principle. And as for C4L, which started out as an organization which had, as part of its core mission EDUCATION, I really don't want to hear about how educating people doesn't matter.

You can't really complain about the system and then expect to change it by doing what everyone else is doing. I prefer to take my cues from a consistent, principled man of integrity. A successful Republican congressman who doesn't do things the way everyone else does them and somehow keeps plugging away, building momentum, gaining devoted grassroots support and msm validation every day. (Have we forgotten him already?) Not because he jumps from issue to issue, flavor of the month money making opportunity or because he knows from experience how to run a slimy spoiler campaign like this supposed strategical genius Michael I. Rothfeld...

*sigh*

I don't know why you refuse to see what's going on...

I'm not sure who you are talking about, because Ron Paul works with a number of people that he doesn't see eye-to-eye with on every issue. Case in point -- Kucinek and Grayson, amongst many others.

So, Rothfeld doesn't agree with us on foreign policy. So what? He wasn't hired to teach foreign policy; he was hired to teach us how to successfully infiltrate the GOP. And apparently, he is pretty darn good at it.

 

[LittleLightShining]

Who is the person in question that is teaching?

Michael I. Rothfeld

http://saberinc.net/saber/about.htm

 

[LittleLightShining]

I'm not sure who you are talking about, because Ron Paul works with a number of people that he doesn't see eye-to-eye with on every issue. Case in point -- Kucinek and Grayson, amongst many others.

So, Rothfeld doesn't agree with us on foreign policy. So what? He wasn't hired to teach foreign policy; he was hired to teach us how to successfully infiltrate the GOP. And apparently, he is pretty darn good at it.

Interesting since Debbie Hopper swears that there's no concerted effort by the C4L to take over the GOP despite all of the evidence to the contrary. Thanks for backing me up on that one.

What I want to know is WHY hasn't there been a sky is falling mailer from national about the Patriot Act renewal? Where is the outrage from C4L national about the war-- besides Ron Paul's lonely voice? NOWHERE. Why? Because Michael Rothfeld doesn't agree with us on foreign policy and as long as he is the fundraising and strategy guy C4L will not come out swinging against it-- UNLESS the mainstream GOP voters change their tune.

Von Steuben my behind. What do American soldiers in the middle east fear most about their enemy? IED's. Not traditional gun battles or air strikes. They are least protected against guerrilla tactics. WAKE UP!

 

[LibertyEagle]

Interesting since Debbie Hopper swears that there's no concerted effort by the C4L to take over the GOP despite all of the evidence to the contrary. Thanks for backing me up on that one.

Successfully infiltrate is not the same thing as "takeover". If we do not know how to be effective within political parties, we have no chance.

What I want to know is WHY hasn't there been a sky is falling mailer from national about the Patriot Act renewal? Where is the outrage from C4L national about the war-- besides Ron Paul's lonely voice? NOWHERE. Why? Because Michael Rothfeld doesn't agree with us on foreign policy and as long as he is the fundraising and strategy guy C4L will not come out swinging against it-- UNLESS the mainstream GOP voters change their tune.

He was not hired to teach that, LLS. And on the other, if you want to know why the C4L did or did not do something, and really want an answer, pick up the phone and ask them.

Von Steuben my behind. What do American soldiers in the middle east fear most about their enemy? IED's. Not traditional gun battles or air strikes. They are least protected against guerrilla tactics. WAKE UP!

 

[LittleLightShining]

Successfully infiltrate is not the same thing as "takeover". If we do not know how to be effective within political parties, we have no chance.

Do explain the difference to me. Why infiltrate if you have no intention of taking it over?

He was not hired to teach that, LLS . And on the other, if you want to know why the C4L did or did not do something, and really want an answer, pick up the phone and ask them.

Why are you trying to squelch discussion again? You're a good little guard dog, though.

And you are fully aware that I spoke with Debbie Hopper for a looooong time-- an hour and a half to be exact-- last week. I asked all my questions and the answers I got made me more disgusted than I was before. I have resigned my position as county coordinator because I was "gently" told that by having that position I should not speak critically of the C4L. I have said it before and I'll say it again. I do NOT wear a muzzle well. I'd rather keep doing what I'm doing than have people try to shut me up for pointing out facts, asking questions and trying to have a discussion about it.

If you don't want me talking about the Campaign For Liberty here you're gonna have to ban me. And everyone will see that there actually IS something not right that needs to be hidden.