Celebrity hive mind outraged by gun control vote

Acala said:
This is why having the STATES enact these stupid laws is good. It will help divide the country physically as well as politically. It is hard to break off a geographic area when the population is so mixed up. We need some interstate migration.
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Many people agree with you. Around 10 years ago, the top liberty activists in the world took a vote on which 1 state to encourage people to move to in such a fashion.
 
Jesus. That was like a reading version of Two Minutes Hate. Never ceases to amaze me how the people who advocate for this type of control for "safety" or whatever reason seem to be incredibly blood thirsty.
 
Keith and stuff said:
Many people agree with you. Around 10 years ago, the top liberty activists in the world took a vote on which 1 state to encourage people to move to in such a fashion.
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I think the Free State Project is great.

NH doesn't work for me but others should absolutely consider it.
 
KingNothing said:
Would you stop it? Advocating for civil war is irresponsible, stupid, and insane.
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He didn't say anything about war. And why don't you stop issuing directives all the time? You're always telling people what to think and say and do and what is and what isn't. What a nag!

It's irreconcilable and inevitable anyway. Better a peaceful, amicable divorce now than to go all War of the Roses on each other later.

But I'm afraid I'll still be faced with a false f'n choice between economic statism and social statism (with police statism everywhere). Like AF always says...people don't want to be free. And they don't want to leave other people alone either. Americans are mostly bossy and nagging and controlling...like KN!

Acala said:
I think the Free State Project is great.

NH doesn't work for me but others should absolutely consider it.
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Me either. We should start one in AZ. Now would be a good time too, what with all the draconian state level gun control being passed and pro-2nd residents screaming to other states to get their RIGHTS back.
 
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KingNothing said:
Would you stop it? Advocating for civil war is irresponsible, stupid, and insane.
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How exactly to you take support for secession as agitating for Civil War?

Ohhhh, and if they were the same thing why exactly were almost 100% of the battles fought on CSA territory?

Come and get them is how it goes, not coming to get you.
 
Anti Federalist said:
Can we separate yet?

C'mon, this is ridiculous anymore.

There are two Amerikas now, totally divided, with no common ground or "compromise" possible.

Separate...let the "left" go and congregate in the one party ruled states, let us "freedom folks" go our way as well.

Leave them free to pursue their safety society or whatever the hell it is they want to do.
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we'd go for that deal, but apparently, their interventionist sickness wouldn't allow other people the choice. they have to force everyone into their prison for it to maximize their overlords perks. you know, more slaves on the plantation and all.
if a free US were allow to exist next to their hell hole, everyone would eventually leave their stupid shit.
 
AuH20 said:
It is inevitable. One side wants to take and take, until the other side will have no other recourse. It is guaranteed to happen. There will be nothing glorious about it however.
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You, being a fan of Buchanan, it doesn't surprise me you believe wholeheartedly Balkanization.
 
Lucille said:
Me either. We should start one in AZ. Now would be a good time too, what with all the draconian state level gun control being passed and pro-2nd residents screaming to other states to get their RIGHTS back.
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AZ was never even considered because the population is so large and there are so few liberty activists in the US.Considering how few movers there have been to the 2 projects, around 1100 in NH and maybe a 100 in WY, excluding AZ from the choices was 100% the right thing to do. It is also very good that WY lost to NH since it gets what looks like less than 1 mover for every 10 movers NH gets.
 
Keith and stuff said:
AZ was never even considered because the population is so large and there are so few liberty activists in the US.Considering how few movers there have been to the 2 projects, around 1100 in NH and maybe a 100 in WY, excluding AZ from the choices was 100% the right thing to do. It is also very good that WY lost to NH since it gets what looks like less than 1 mover for every 10 movers NH gets.
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I would agree with not choosing Arizona. Although it has some libertarian leanings (super gun laws AND moving in the right direction on pot, for example) it does have a large population. It also has some border issues that would complicate any secession movement.

But I think Idaho has NH beat.
 
Acala said:
I would agree with not choosing Arizona. Although it has some libertarian leanings (super gun laws AND moving in the right direction on pot, for example) it does have a large population. It also has some border issues that would complicate any secession movement.

But I think Idaho has NH beat.
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I see some good things about ID. I think it lost for a lot of reasons. It is to a large extent, owned by the federal government. It has a very large religious fanatic population. More than any other state, it has a reputation of white supremacist movers (something some FSPers wanted to stay far away from), the state is dry, it doesn't have any major cities and it only arguably near 1 major city. The lack of jobs. For example, with NH and DE, their are tons of jobs available in areas that are easy to commute to. Not so with ID. Also, people preferred the other 2 Mountain West states much more. I guess the other major downside is that it has both the largest populations of the 10 states that were considered, and the fastest growing population of the 10 states that were considered.

Looking back at it, obviously, pretty much everyone thought (at least up until this point) it was a bad choice. An organization started (by folks that split from the FSP after the which state vote) to encourage people to move to WY, MT and ID. It was called the Free West Alliance. Of the 3 state branches, the ID branch, if you could call it that, was the least active. In fact, I'd love to see evidence that even a single liberty activist moved to ID as part of it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_West_Alliance

On the other hand, around 100 moved to WY (though, many of them aren't activists or even liberty folks as neither of those is a requirement for the WY project) as part of the project there and around 1100 moved to NH as part of the FSP. So clearly, up until this point, if you judge by just liberty activists moving, the FWA ID was a complete failure and ID isn't popular at all as a destination for liberty activists.

I know a guy in NH that says he knows of white supremacists that like some aspects of liberty that are moving to northern ID, so I guess ID has that going for it. The top expert that I know of in the Strategic Relocation business claims parts of ID are the best area in the US to move to as for as Strategic Relocation (nothing related to liberty) goes. Though, the same guy says that the Northern NH area and the parts of ME and VT that border it, are the best location in the Northeast for Strategic Relocation so NH does very well (though not as well as ID) in that area, also.
 
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