Cavuto just said about who won the debate...

[RDM]

Why do people think Cruz is fake? His record falls in line with his rhetoric. He has his own beliefs. They're closer to ours than anyone else, but the differences between us are significant. Why assume he is lying and not saying exactly what he actually thinks?

He's alligned with ours?


Cruz, Rubio Vote to Increase Debt By $400 Billion; Paul, Sanders Vote No.
Cruz, Rubio Vote to Increase Debt By $400 Billion; Paul, Sanders Vote No. http://truthinmedia.com/cruz-rubio-vote-increase-debt-ceiling-paul-votes-no/

 

[Valli6]

Rubio's speaking tactics...

Did anyone else notice how Rubio would suddenly raise his voice as he approached the end of his allotted time - and then the audience would respond with applause when he finished?

At first, I thought someone raised the sound level on his microphone, but it happened over and over again.

I think it must be some psychological technique to make yourself sound more earnest, raise the "excitement" level, and motivate applause - even though he was just saying the same old crap. I suspect this is what led many to perceive him as "winning".

Maybe Rand needs to make a conscious effort to speak much louder as he asserts his final point(s) during an answer?

 

[RandPaul4Prez]

This is because Rubio and Cruz are the targeted people to pump up. Rubio is their establishment pick. Cruz is their primary source to syphon Rand's support and dilute his message. All of the fake "libertarian" outlets like Glenn Beck all support Cruz because he is a Pied Piper. He's the one saying what some libertarians want to hear, but wouldn't actually go through with it, that's why these outlets are choosing Cruz over Rand. They don't want real change, they are just intentionally steering the support in the wrong direction.

Beck jumps around from candidate to candidate just to get rating for his show. He also likes Cruz because he's into that evangelical BS.

 

[ds21089]

Why do people think Cruz is fake? His record falls in line with his rhetoric. He has his own beliefs. They're closer to ours than anyone else, but the differences between us are significant. Why assume he is lying and not saying exactly what he actually thinks?

He was probably approached with his orders right after, if not before riding the Tea Party movement to election. He wanted to keep a remotely Constitutional record for appearance. He votes the right way on most bills that hardly do anything or if he knows they already have the votes to oppose it regardless so he just throws a "meaningless" vote in the right direction because the agenda still gets pushed while he gets to look good on record. His wife was a managing director at Goldman Sach's and decided to leave just as Cruz started running. She's also a member of CFR. With those ties, I'm sorry but there's no way you're a person truly looking after the interest of the people.

 

[ds21089]

Beck jumps around from candidate to candidate just to get rating for his show. He also likes Cruz because he's into that evangelical BS.

He's firmly for Cruz. My point is that he's been making it seem that Cruz is the true liberty candidate, when that's not the case. Also, by his logic, Rand would HAVE to be his 2nd choice. Unfortunately, I doubt it's going to happen, but if Cruz ever steps out of the race, I'm willing to wager anything Beck will not throw support behind Rand (unless by that point it's so late in the race nothing could be done to help him)

Beck claims to be a person who does in-depth searches of people on the internet and shines light on them, yet somehow chooses to neglect the fact that Cruz's wife has ties to big banking and CFR all the meanwhile Cruz spouts End the Fed! The irony is painful.

 

[kahless]

Did anyone else notice how Rubio would suddenly raise his voice as he approached the end of his allotted time - and then the audience would respond with applause when he finished?

At first, I thought someone raised the sound level on his microphone, but it happened over and over again.

I think it must be some psychological technique to make yourself sound more earnest, raise the "excitement" level, and motivate applause - even though he was just saying the same old crap. I suspect this is what led many to perceive him as "winning".

Maybe Rand needs to make a conscious effort to speak much louder as he asserts his final point(s) during an answer?

I said that during the debate they turned up his mic and I believe that without a doubt since it was pretty significant. I had to grab the remote to turn it down. Rubio certainly tried to make himself sound more earnest. The audio engineer helped him with that each time by turning up his mic and increasing the levels of the audience response. It did help motivate the audience but they were obviously adding the audience feedback to help it out a bit. It was pretty clear from the beginning of the debate the audio was being manipulated for added audience feedback.

I really hate when you are an audience member at a made for TV event and they turn crank up the audience feedback for every little thing. You look around no one is responding just watching what is on stage like you are watching a movie. It just does not match what is going on but you can hear a fake audience response blasting from the speakers in the auditorium which is distracting and disappointing at the same time.

Hopefully someone that was there will post in the forums to tell us what it was really like and confirm it.

 

[moraha]

The good thing about Rubio is that he's an utter jackass. He'll do something strikingly stupid soon enough, and it will cost him dearly.

Cruz will not, though. Cruz will be in this as long as he wants to be in this. I'm not sure what we can do about him. He's entirely unelectable, but I feel as though the base my go for him in primaries and caucuses. I just hope he struggles with GOTV aspects of politics.

I really feel that Rubio won't do anything stupid himself. SOMEONE will have to destroy him. His views a align with a lot of people. Most people don't realize how spending affects our country which is where the problem is. Rand needs to somehow explain it better. His answers sometimes need to be dumbed down BIG time.

As for Cruz...I'm not sure what to do about him either. But I'll be honest and say that IF he did become the nominee, I'd choose him over any other republican after Paul. Yes he seems like a liar and has a questionable voting record but I feel that it's better to take a chance with that then be stuck with Rubio. Hopefully Paul can figure something out with him.

 

[ds21089]

I really feel that Rubio won't do anything stupid himself. SOMEONE will have to destroy him. His views a align with a lot of people. Most people don't realize how spending affects our country which is where the problem is. Rand needs to somehow explain it better. His answers sometimes need to be dumbed down BIG time.

As for Cruz...I'm not sure what to do about him either. But I'll be honest and say that IF he did become the nominee, I'd choose him over any other republican after Paul. Yes he seems like a liar and has a questionable voting record but I feel that it's better to take a chance with that then be stuck with Rubio. Hopefully Paul can figure something out with him.

The problem though is essentially everyone loses to Hillary. The person with the best chance is Paul. This is because Paul gets the best support from non-republicans and republicans are gonna vote for their candidate regardless. So there is no Cruz or Rubio presidency. There's a Clinton presidency or a Paul presidency. Everyone else needs to get the heck out of the way, but being in the way is their goal. They rather see Clinton succeed than Paul because then their puppeteers will be pleased and the show goes on.

 

[moraha]

The problem though is essentially everyone loses to Hillary. The person with the best chance is Paul. This is because Paul gets the best support from non-republicans and republicans are gonna vote for their candidate regardless. So there is no Cruz or Rubio presidency. There's a Clinton presidency or a Paul presidency. Everyone else needs to get the heck out of the way, but being in the way is their goal. They rather see Clinton succeed than Paul because then their puppeteers will be pleased and the show goes on.

WE know that but others don't. People seem to really think Rubio is the only one that can beat her. Which is so ridiculous...

 

[euphemia]

Cruz got big applause for saying he would close three deparments. He said he would close four, but he said one twice.

 

[tod evans]

WE know that but others don't. People seem to really think Rubio is the only one that can beat her. Which is so ridiculous...

This applies;

 

[Matthanuf06]

To be honest Cruz is my second choice behind Paul. I'd actually probably go Marco after for a purely selfish reason. We both went to the University of Florida. If we are going to have a bad POTUS I might as well get a talking point out of it. Carson would be my next choice. I can't vote for Trump. I can't vote for Hillary. And Bernie is the worst of them all.

In terms of "trustability" in terms of meaning what they say I'd actually rank them this way

1. Sanders. There is no doubt what this guy is. Straight up commie and would ruin the country.
2. Paul. He does have a perception of pandering and flip flopping. I disagree, but its there.
3. Cruz. I'm not sure how someone can think he is fake. He is very consistent. We just have some disagreements. There may be some potential ties for corruption due to his wife's role at Goldman. However, people vastly overestimate the impact of that sort of stuff.
4. Carson. I think he is totally genuine. I just don't think he totally knows what he would do because he isn't a politician, a military expert, an economist, etc. But he'd surround himself.
5. Marco. Establishment
6. Clinton. Yes she is by far the biggest liar here. It isn't close. But she is wholly predictable. I know exactly what a Clinton presidency will be. She just lies her way to get there.
7. Trump. I'm torn on this one. For the longest time (years) I had literally no idea what he stood for. He's seemed to find a nice niche as a fascist though.

 

[devil21]

On a lighter note, Cavato really grilled Ted Cruz after the debate on his relationship with getting along with other senators on capitol hill. It was actually very embarrassing for Cruz. Good work Neil.

I enjoyed that segment immensely. Cavuto absolutely did give Teddy a hard time and Cruz was flustered that he wasn't being fawned over. I think Cavuto was hella tired by that point in the night and just stopped caring about whether he kept up the Fox narrative. He also has to recognize that Cruz is trying to usurp the Pauls platform, seeing how he interviewed Ron a lot.

 

[PierzStyx]

Why do people think Cruz is fake? His record falls in line with his rhetoric. He has his own beliefs. They're closer to ours than anyone else, but the differences between us are significant. Why assume he is lying and not saying exactly what he actually thinks?

In fact, I have more of a reason to believe Cruz is more honest about his stances than Rand.

 

[devil21]

In fact, I have more of a reason to believe Cruz is more honest about his stances than Rand.

You're gonna have to elaborate on that...

I have a hard time believing that Cruz seriously wants a sound money gold standard, seeing how his wife is a high executive at Goldman Sachs. I don't think for a second that Goldman wants people to have the ability to convert currency into gold.

 

[dusman]

In fact, I have more of a reason to believe Cruz is more honest about his stances than Rand.

 

[rich34]

In fact, I have more of a reason to believe Cruz is more honest about his stances than Rand.

Back when the Syria fiasco started Cruz blatently said we should send 75,000 troops into Syria to combat Assad before Rand took to social media and the airwaves arguing against it. After doing this and polls were ran showing Americans were overwhelmingly against it Cruz changed his tune and got in line with Rand.... The man is a pander to anyone/anything to get elected. I can only speak for myself but I wouldn't trust him for nothing. In other words a neocon trying to pander to Rand's element and is obviously doing well at it.

 

[mit26chell]

First of all, he is not a neocon.

Really? Because he was on the radio this morning saying we will need to bomb Iran because they will most likely have nukes by the time the next election is complete.

 

[Jonderdonk]

You're gonna have to elaborate on that...

I have a hard time believing that Cruz seriously wants a sound money gold standard, seeing how his wife is a high executive at Goldman Sachs. I don't think for a second that Goldman wants people to have the ability to convert currency into gold.

Ted's wife isn't the one on stage advocating for the gold standard.

 

[devil21]

Ted's wife isn't the one on stage advocating for the gold standard.

Must make for some very uncomfortable bed conversations.