Can someone please tell me how people use Switzerland as an argument?

By the way, angelatc, the link you posted measures intentional homicides, not gun deaths. There's a difference.
 
By the way, angelatc, the link you posted measures intentional homicides, not gun deaths. There's a difference.

But it's irrevelant. Unless you're telling us that guns should be banned only because people use them to kill themselves. In which case I can point out that other nations have higher suicide rates. Or maybe you're trying to save the children who might accidently shoot another kid, in which case we need to ban swimming pools, automobiles and drywall buckets.

Many moons ago, some "pragmatic" leaders decided that it was ok to infringe on our rights, in the name of safety. Now you have the nerve to come in here and ask us to give up more.

No.
 
But it's irrevelant. Unless you're telling us that guns should be banned only because people use them to kill themselves. In which case I can point out that other nations have higher suicide rates. Or maybe you're trying to save the children who might accidently shoot another kid, in which case we need to ban swimming pools, automobiles and drywall buckets.
I said I supported better gun regulation, I never said guns should be "banned."
 
All of this is a distraction. Anti/pro gun regulation based on criminal activity is the tail wagging the dog, and undermines the purpose of the 2nd amendment. Even if homicide rates were much higher, there still would be no justification for the nanny State too create a positive Right (not getting shot) by eliminating a negative Right (to bear arms). The Founders understood that political power rests in the hands of the armed. period.
 
Probably the most important thing you entirely missed is the Swiss have not been in a war in 400 years. Can you say the same thing about Japan France Germany, England? I think not. Add that to the over all murder rate of a country too look at the whole picture.
 
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