Can someone give me the DEFINITIVE Fed Reserve video?

[Green Mountain Boy]

I don't know about definitive, but Money As Debt worked really well for my understanding of it.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9050474362583451279

Bingo. Money as Debt is probably the best out there for understanding our money system.

 

[libertarianguy]

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[fsk]

Yes, but not the design that you're implying. The design is to allow Congress to shape the public's actions (tax credits on farm machinery or on hybrid vehicles). This isn't for the means of enslaving people. We should reject the notion that "Congress knows best", but there is no need to create a Pinky and the Brain episode out of it.

How are "shape the public's actions" and "enslaving them" different?

Why should Congress be providing subsidies to encourage certain industries? Why should Congress be providing taxes and regulations to discourage other industries?

 

[cjhowe]

How are "shape the public's actions" and "enslaving them" different?

One allows choice, the other does not. Enslavement is used as hyperbole in the real world discussion. In the kook discussion, enslavement is used as fact.

Why should Congress be providing subsidies to encourage certain industries? Why should Congress be providing taxes and regulations to discourage other industries?

They should not be. I said that we should reject the notion that "Congress knows best". When the term enslavement is not used as hyperbole, you allow the people to be comforted and accept the notion "oh Congress is just trying to do what's best for us". Again, we should reject the notion that "Congress knows best", the reality is evil enough. If you cannot use loaded words as obvious hyperbole, don't use them!

 

[fsk]

Enslavement is used as hyperbole in the real world discussion. In the kook discussion, enslavement is used as fact.

Why is it wrong to say "the current economic and political system is one of absolute perfect enslavement"? The current economic and political system actually *IS* a system of absolute perfect enslavement.

The monetary system is hopelessly corrupt. The income tax means that people need permission from the government to work. Income taxes force people to use worthless Federal Reserve Points as money. Meaningful reforms cannot be achieved by voting. Schools train people for a life of wage slavery, rather than true independent action.

That sounds like absolute perfect enslavement to me.

 

[cjhowe]

Why is it wrong to say "the current economic and political system is one of absolute perfect enslavement"? The current economic and political system actually *IS* a system of absolute perfect enslavement.

The monetary system is hopelessly corrupt. The income tax means that people need permission from the government to work. Income taxes force people to use worthless Federal Reserve Points as money. Meaningful reforms cannot be achieved by voting. Schools train people for a life of wage slavery, rather than true independent action.

That sounds like absolute perfect enslavement to me.

I'm sorry, I didn't notice the chains on your wrists and ankles and the lashes on your back. My mistake. It's hyperbole, use it as such or people will reject EVERYTHING you have to say about a topic.

 

[fsk]

You should be more concerned about your chains that are preventing you from thinking clearly.

Also, just because you disapprove of one argument a person makes, doesn't invalidate their other arguments. If you don't like my statement that the current economic system is one of absolute perfect enslavement, that doesn't detract from my criticisms of the Federal Reserve. If you can't think clearly, that's your problem, not my problem.

 

[Gee]

Bleh, don't watch a video. All of them, even Mises.org's video to a small extent, are propaganda. Its best to read about it. The Austrians have the best critiques against the Fed. To understand the other side, I'd read about monetarist (or old Chicago-school, i.e. Milton Friedman) and Keynesian economics.

 

[cjhowe]

You should be more concerned about your chains that are preventing you from thinking clearly.

Also, just because you disapprove of one argument a person makes, doesn't invalidate their other arguments. If you don't like my statement that the current economic system is one of absolute perfect enslavement, that doesn't detract from my criticisms of the Federal Reserve. If you can't think clearly, that's your problem, not my problem.

While people should not, they throw out the baby with the bath water all of the time. Why not use hyperbole as hyperbole or better yet, stand on the arguments that speak succicntly about a subject?

 

[Lord Xar]

Thanks guys.. That information was VERY VERY USEFUL. I have passed it on.

 

[MyKillK]

Money Masters is an extremely good video in which I learned a lot.

It is very, very long but covers the entire history of the international banking cartel with special focus on the USA. For instance, did you know that the international banking cartel attempted to install a USA central bank up to 4 times before finally succeeding in 1913?

 

[G-khan]

Here is a very good video "Monopoly Men" and deals with the Fed and who, how and when it started...


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7065177340464808778