Can socialism work in small and well-educated countries?

[buffalokid777]

http://www.heritage.org/Research/features/index/countries.cfm Hong Kong is about 10 percentage points free-er in the marketplace than we are. So next time, check ya facts . I wasn't blowing smoke. I didn't mention the economic zones, but you can't deny they are more free than we are in the marketplace.

And, that's a big "up yours" to buffalokid. Again, he's preaching without anything to back it up. Look at the chart buddy, you owe me an apology for that giant "HAHAHA" you gave me.

I failed to mention the economic zones, but it's what I was aiming at and minestra nailed it.

You are such an idiot.....Hong Kong is but 1 city in a VERY BIG COUNTRY......

Your view makes a country Like America look like very over the top nutbag liberals because the nutbags in San Francisco are very over the top nutbag liberals....if we were to judge the whole country on this one city....we would all look like nutbag liberals.....but that is simply not the way it is.......

Just like San Francisco does not represent America as a whole.....

Neither does Hong Kong represent China as a whole......

Hong Kong is 1 very small influence in China much like San Francisco is 1 very small influence in America.....

You friggin Neocon dork.....

 

[Minestra di pomodoro]

That's too bad. San Francisco is awesome.

 

[buffalokid777]

That's too bad. San Francisco is awesome.

In terms of weather and landscape.....it IS awesome.....

In terms of defining the US as a whole (especially politically).....It is quite unreliable......as it is a political exception rather than the rule in the USA....much like Hong Kong is an exception compared to the rule in china which is the exact point I'm trying to express.....rockandrollidiot seems to think just because Hong Kong is a capitalism friendly zone the rest of china is too when the truth is Hong Kong is the exception rather than the rule.......and Hong Kong is a VERY small percentage of China as a whole.......What sane person would think all of China is capitalism friendly when we know only Hong Kong and a couple other zones are the only capitalism friendly zones in a VERY LARGE COUNTRY......How can you possibly say a country is capitalism friendly when only 3% of the country is capitalist friendly zones while the other 97% is NOT?

 

[OptionsTrader]

Can socialism work in small and well-educated countries?

It is still tyranny if the basic human rights (Life, liberty, Property) of one individual are not protected. Small or large country is irrelevant. If that one person disagrees with the way the masters have designed the government, he has no recourse and is enslaved.

People can be "happy" and enslaved as you can readily observe.

 

[SeanEdwards]

It is still tyranny if the basic human rights (Life, liberty, Property) of one individual are not protected. Small or large country is irrelevant. If that one person disagrees with the way the masters have designed the government, he has no recourse and is enslaved.

People can be "happy" and enslaved as you can readily observe.

Can they really be described as enslaved if they are free to leave whenever they want? I don't think any western socialist themed states prevent their citizens from leaving. It's whack job states like North Korea and Cuba that imprison their people. I doubt you'd find many citizens of Denmark or Sweden who feel like slaves.

 

[AutoDas]

How educated can these people be when I have not heard of any major technological breakthroughs come from these countries. (Sweden, Finland, and the Netherlands being the most socialist European countries)

It's just a matter of time before these countries deny their citizens access to leave the country because when they turn adults they immediately leave from being taxed too much and there not being enough skilled jobs. They're on life support from the immigrants of Asian countries and Eastern Europe.

I've got a question to those who live in these socialist countries: is it required by the state to get a job?

 

[rockandrollsouls]

You are such an idiot.....Hong Kong is but 1 city in a VERY BIG COUNTRY......

Your view makes a country Like America look like very over the top nutbag liberals because the nutbags in San Francisco are very over the top nutbag liberals....if we were to judge the whole country on this one city....we would all look like nutbag liberals.....but that is simply not the way it is.......

Just like San Francisco does not represent America as a whole.....

Neither does Hong Kong represent China as a whole......

Hong Kong is 1 very small influence in China much like San Francisco is 1 very small influence in America.....

You friggin Neocon dork.....

Excuse me? You might want to research what a special economic zone is. These are areas China has set aside with different rules and regulations specifically to do business. Of course, China is still communist and oppresses its people...they aren't going to let everyone do what the want, but the areas they actually have for doing business does business well and is more free than us.

The fact of the matter is you can't even begin to compare San Francisco, or even California to Hong Kong. You're missing something important. China oppresses its people. They don't want everyone to go into business wherever they want, whenever they want. However, they do have special zones that are different like Hong Kong and Singapore, and no matter how you put it it's STILL shameful that an economic zone set up and run by a communist nation is more free than us.

Anyway, your comparison is a horrible one that is completely off base. I'd suggest you research special economic zones and pay attention to the facts in the link I sent you. Your own opinion and analogies aren't exactly considered evidence to support your opinion, Buffalo. I'm getting really sick of it. Just because you say you are right doesn't make it so. How about you support your opinion with some evidence, huh?

 

[Alex Libman]

Depends what you mean by "work". Everything is relative. Socialism doesn't make the sky fall down, it just lowers economic growth and quality of life. It works better in small, already-wealthy, homogeneous countries from where all non-socialists can easily jump ship to a place like America or Australia. But that doesn't mean those countries wouldn't be doing even better under a free-market economy, especially if they would spend the time & money they currently spend on politics on decentralized charities, consumer groups, and other voluntary organizations instead.

 

[rockandrollsouls]

In terms of weather and landscape.....it IS awesome.....

In terms of defining the US as a whole (especially politically).....It is quite unreliable......as it is a political exception rather than the rule in the USA....much like Hong Kong is an exception compared to the rule in china which is the exact point I'm trying to express.....rockandrollidiot seems to think just because Hong Kong is a capitalism friendly zone the rest of china is too when the truth is Hong Kong is the exception rather than the rule.......and Hong Kong is a VERY small percentage of China as a whole.......What sane person would think all of China is capitalism friendly when we know only Hong Kong and a couple other zones are the only capitalism friendly zones in a VERY LARGE COUNTRY......How can you possibly say a country is capitalism friendly when only 3% of the country is capitalist friendly zones while the other 97% is NOT?

Listen, smart guy. Don't call me idiot. Your the one who doesn't even know what a LLC is. All you do is preach and you've taken one class 20 years ago in macroeconomics. You have no idea what you are talking about. If you took the time to read my prior posts you would know that I've stated China oppresses its people. They don't want everyone to be free. However, they have zones with different regulations where business CAN be done. It's clear China knows the conditions for which a market thrives best. They've managed to control their people and strap them down while having areas where a near free market can thrive and prosper. The Chinese government isn't dumb. As sad as it is, they have figured out a way to have a great economy and oppress their people at the same time! They know what they are doing, they realize a free market economy is best, and they've created special economic zones to reach their goal.

Buffalo, you really need to support your theories with some kind of evidence. Calling me an idiot doesn't exactly make you right, and I think it makes your opinions look even more ridiculous. You have selective hearing; you hear what you want to hear and manipulate what I say to make it sound wrong.

Again, you're some random McDonald's employee that comes on this board to tout his economical genius achieved from a maco class over 20 years ago. You don't know what you're talking about, you consistently present misinformation, and you continually put down people who are right and support their opinions. It's incredibly frustrating. You are close minded and stubborn. You will not take any fact or evidence seriously unless it conforms to your opinion. All the while you call me and others "neocons" "idiots" etc, when, again, you are the one who has no clue what he's talking about. It absolutely boggles my mind.

 

[Timothy]

Denmark isn't completely socialistic and Switzerland isn't Maoist.

Some people have some standards...