Can Ron Paul cost John McCain the election?

I agree. Once McCain loses and the Dems take more seats in the Senate and the House of Representatives, I believe there will be massive finger pointing among the neocons and inner fighting within their circle which will further weaken their grip on the party and make it easier for Ron Paul Republicans to take over. :cool:

I agree with your premise but disagree that RP will cause McCain to be defeated. I am a long time republican voter and I am not voting for McCain because I don't like him or his policies not because I just want to see republicans lose.
People running around bragging that RP and his followers are doing this just to make republicans lose are hurting our future cause to get disinchanted republicans after the elections to switch to us. They will remember only that we did it to help the democrats which is not why I am here.
 
Can Ron Paul cost John McCain the election?

I echo others sentiment. He never had a chance in the first place. It would be like expecting a runner to win a marathon while carrying a 5 ton cannon ball....the Bush admin is McCain's 5 ton elephant because he supported them.
 
If McCain gets the nomination, the democrats will win by landslide. That is a guarantee. No matter how many ovtes Ron Paul takes from McCain.
And I wouldn't allow the sleazy lying GOP get away with even mentioning any other reasons for McCains defeat. Because we all know, the McCain is just another 4 years of George Bush. Some failed foreign and economic policies that have created this beast.
 
But the people are still really stupid. I have no confidence that once the neocons implode that what replaces it will be Ron Paul Republicans. It will be some other form of Stalinist spin party that "social conservatives" will once again vote for and buy in to.


Nah - if they go anywhere, it'll be back to the Democratic party - where they're a much closer fit anyway. They're comfortable with the Republican party right now because so many people aren't paying attention. Hopefully Ron's book can help change that.
 
what if john mccain can cost john mccain the election in full? what if it boils down to whether john mccain can
actually walk on water as one of his supporters now hints? what if john mccain is so close to the magic 1190 plus
even though he actually has some seven hundred actual delegates. if a mjaor scandal now erupts around him... then what?
 
If mccain loses it'll be his fault alone. After this year the gop will know conservatives vote conservative, not republican.
 
Sorry, don't care for the title, but interesting thread nontheless.
Mccain is a real loser! He has already cost himself this one by being who he is.
Whenever we say someone will cost someone the election it infers by someone that they don't belong in the process because they are not one of the chosen.
 
fucks it up

I can't wait until one of these three gets in and really fucks the country up. I want it to get worse, this dumb country deserves it.

"Only a nation of unenlightened half wits could have taken this beautiful place and turned it into what it is today: a shopping mall. A big fucking shopping mall!" -Carlin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M5Xm5RYTRY&feature=related



They're all going to F it up, but I prefer that it isn't our party doing the F'ing up. If it's Obama we can at least get out of Iraq and purge the party of McCainism and neoconservatism.
 
YES! Just look what he did in Pennsylvania. You see McCain has a milk shake and Obama has a milk shake…

But Ron Paul has a straw that stretches acrooooosss the room so he can drink up McCain’s milkshake. Just look at what happened in Pennsylvania and elsewhere. It’s called drainage!




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Drainage! We drink up McCain's base.

Will McCain have a base left by November?

LOL! I enjoyed that movie "There Will Be Blood". That is probably the best line in the movie and I like the way you used the line ROFL :D I'm also thinking that shirt would be perfect to wear to the convention :P
 
I liked the line "I have a competition in me.." the best. The milkshake part was great too though.


That should be the RP T-shirt for the convention. Maybe we could send all the delegates going there that T-shirt to wear...all 20 of them heh...somehow the GOP has managed to stop us everytime we take over a convention so we never actually come up with much,
 
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Without a doubt....

FUCK NO

CHECK your premises. Totally flawed. If there was no Ron Paul, McCain would still LOSE. He has no chance.... NONE.

Actually McCain does have a chance if Obama gets involved in a scandal like Gary Hart....any kind of scandal...or if he keeps pissing off people like the small town folks...Jeremiah Wright might come back to haunt Obama.
 
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