Campaign Expenditures and SERIOUS PROBLEMS AT THE TOP of our campaign

[free.alive]

SteveMartin, your assertions are destructive, silly and patently false.

You really need to consider the greater effect of planting all these seeds of negativity. This is the way to start the self-implosion of this movement.

 

[Bradley in DC]

SteveMartin, your assertions are destructive, silly and patently false.

Can you refute them?

Not facing reality is what is hurting our movement. (I'm not confirming or denying Steve's assertions, but support the need for us to examine why the official campaign staff are failing us.)

 

[SteveMartin]

luckily, the job of the president of the USA is much less demanding.

Probably about the same...

 

[SteveMartin]

Yes, please DO refute them if you can. I certainly do not want to believe any of this! AND THAT IS GOD'S HONEST TRUTH!

 

[SteveMartin]

Bradley,

Please give me a call when you have a free moment.

TIA...

207-532-3635

 

[independentperson08]

Can you refute them?

Not facing reality is what is hurting our movement. (I'm not confirming or denying Steve's assertions, but support the need for us to examine why the official campaign staff are failing us.)

First, how can we validate or invalidate these Mr. Martin's claims. I urgently
would like to understand if we have an internal issue with HQ, and what
these issues are.

Second, Mr. Martin, can you identify who the Grassroots leaders are that
will participate in Friday's conference call, who from HQ will participate,
how these grassroots persons were identified as "leaders?"

Third, what is the specific agenda of the conference call (i.e. issues that will be
addressed).

Fourth, will there be conference call notes made available to the grassroots
after the completion of this call?

Thank you.

 

[partypooper]

Probably about the same...

which means that, tomorrow, when it turns out that a bunch of 18 year olds is running the white house we will be told that president paul is "out of the loop"?

 

[SteveMartin]

I know that Ron Paul Radio, Operation Broadcast Freedom, TheFreedomNetwork, The Blimp Project and certain early meetup coordinators will be involved.

My understanding is that Debbie Hopper from HQ, and perhaps one other person will also be on the call.

 

[familydog]

Then he doesn't deserve to be president.

A leader that doesn't know how to surround himself with competent people, and encourage and supervise them to do their very best, is no leader at all.

Exactly. One need only study the presidency of US Grant.

 

[dkim68]

I find the salaries stat particularly disturbing. I mean there's people all over the country at the grassroots level who would be willing to work for free. All that money would've been better spent on TV ads, direct mail/telemarketing and more fundraising.

 

[Lord Xar]

I would like to see total expenditures for Ron Paul vs. The Ghoul for NH.

I want to see what the money bought and what it didn't.

Personally, if the campaign spent chump change on NH, then I would actually feel better - thus the support was mostly grassroots.

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ALSO, Why is the OFFICIAL campaign not getting on this forum, not sending emails to the meetups (the grassroots) and telling us what is going on and to alleviate our fears and concerns.
They CANNOT SIT ON THIS while the house crumbles around us.

Why they are SOO SLOW to respond is beyond me.

 

[RPinSEAZ]

Money drying up is not an issue. We simply need to make it through Super Tuesday as in blow our wad on the lead up to Super Tuesday. If we don't get the results we wanted, it doesn't matter anyways because the nomination will probably be sewn up for somebody else.

 

[independentperson08]

First, how can we validate or invalidate these Mr. Martin's claims. I urgently
would like to understand if we have an internal issue with HQ, and what
these issues are.

Second, Mr. Martin, can you identify who the Grassroots leaders are that
will participate in Friday's conference call, who from HQ will participate,
how these grassroots persons were identified as "leaders?"

Third, what is the specific agenda of the conference call (i.e. issues that will be
addressed).

Fourth, will there be conference call notes made available to the grassroots
after the completion of this call?

Thank you.

I know that Ron Paul Radio, Operation Broadcast Freedom, TheFreedomNetwork, The Blimp Project and certain early meetup coordinators will be involved.

My understanding is that Debbie Hopper from HQ, and perhaps one other person will also be on the call.

I edited (quoted above) my original question to make it more clear by
breaking it into four distinct parts. The answer you gave addressed the
"second" issue. Can you please address items 1, 3 & 4 as well.

Thank you.

 

[SteveMartin]

Interesting little 3rd Q expenditure tidbit I was just emailed:

Republican Party of Iowa 28,000.00
Moore, Neal L. 7,989.14 (brother of Lew)
Moore, Sherrel 116,751.66 (wife of Lew)
Snyder, Kent 90,674.61

This is what was paid to these people in ONE QUARTER before the money bombs hit!

 

[ghemminger]

I edited (quoted above) my original question to make it more clear by
breaking it into four distinct parts. The answer you gave addressed the
"second" issue. Can you please address items 1, 3 & 4 as well.

Thank you.

Independent - Who are you?

 

[ghemminger]

Interesting little 3rd Q expenditure tidbit I was just emailed:

Republican Party of Iowa 28,000.00
Moore, Neal L. 7,989.14 (brother of Lew)
Moore, Sherrel 116,751.66 (wife of Lew)
Snyder, Kent 90,674.61

This is what was paid to these people in ONE QUARTER before the money bombs hit!

These are huge expenditures - many, many more questions - I wonder why everyone was so hard on the blimp people when we basically gave a HQ 40-50x morem oney....?

 

[SteveMartin]

I edited (quoted above) my original question to make it more clear by
breaking it into four distinct parts. The answer you gave addressed the
"second" issue. Can you please address items 1, 3 & 4 as well.

Thank you.

1. Look at the link. Call the person cited as a source. Search the net. Not sure it can all be validated without face-to-face confrontation, but it is getting close to time for that.

3. I am not setting the agenda for the call, not am I hosting it. I imagine it will deal with some of the issues mentioned in the OP, my open letter (on these boards) and the insistence that a "Grassroots Communications" department be established.

4. There was a secretary who posted the notes of the last CC here in this forum last time, and my guess is that it will be done again.

 

[daviddee]

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[AMack]

The burden of proof is on the OP. Show us proof or this thread should be regarded as little more than speculation.

 

[ghemminger]

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