California passes bill to jail parents of truant kids.

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California may jail parents if kids are truant

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/answer-sheet/parents/california-considers-jailing-p.html

Talk about parental responsibility. The California Senate just passed a bill that could send parents to jail for up to a year if their kids -- from kindergarten through eighth grade -- miss too much school.

Senate Bill 1317 is actually a public safety measure, according to State Sen. Mark Leno (D-San Francisco), because children who don’t attend school regularly or drop out early are more likely to turn to crime.

"Three-quarters of our state inmate population are high school dropouts," Leno was quoted as saying by the Fresno Bee.

According to the Associated Press, parents whose kids miss too much school could be subject to up to a year in jail and a $2,000 fine, though judges could put the punishment on hold to give parents a chance to get their kids to class.

The Fresno Bee reported that the bill would apply to parents or guardians of children age 6 or older in kindergarten through eighth grade.

To find someone guilty under the bill, prosecutors would have to prove that the parents failed to reasonably supervise and encourage the student to attend school.

How much school is too much school to miss?

Chronic truancy would be as missing 10 percent or more of the school year without a valid excuse, the Bee reported.

The bill is the brainchild of San Francisco District Attorney Kamala Harris, who is seeking the Democratic nomination for attorney general.

"It's much cheaper to focus to getting that elementary school student to school than it is prosecuting a homicide,” she was quoted as saying by the Bee.

Well, yes, presumably, it is. But putting parents in jail for this? If it is hard for a parent to somehow get their kid to go to school from home, you can imagine how hard it would be from jail. What about single parents? Where would the kids go? Should I keep on asking ridiculous questions about a ridiculous bill?

No, I think not. You can come up with your own.
 
uh, arent these the same people who call corporal punishment child abuse?
whip your kids, get em taken away; dont beat that ass, and they will play hookey and you will go to jail
catch-22
 
uh, arent these the same people who call corporal punishment child abuse?
whip your kids, get em taken away; dont beat that ass, and they will play hookey and you will go to jail
catch-22

Yup, now even hollering can be considered "abuse".

So, there are no methods to use to "make" a kid go to school, but you go to jail if they don't.

And that's the point of all this, a "catch 22" just as you stated, it's to put you in a position vis a vis the state, which is untenable.

And they know it. This is just to make you squirm and show you who the boss is, again.
 
So, how do you make sure your kids are going to school when you are in jail sitting on your @$$?
 
To the state, correlation = causation.

If kids just went to school every day there would be no crime!

The solution being just as non-logical.

"There are too many people in prison, so lets pass a law to put more people in prison".
 
To the state, correlation = causation.

If kids just went to school every day there would be no crime!

But truth be told, there might be something to that. I'm kind of glad this point was made in the article. If you've got kids who don't care about their own education and whose parents don't care about it either, then compulsory schooling won't do anything for them. But what it will do is keep them off the streets for the better part of the day. That's really what it's all about. Of course you could alternatively allow them to work, but we've already banned that since the unions don't want to compete with kids who will work for low wages.
 
Check this out:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/242511

Parents can be fined if their child commits a crime. So for example if a parent chooses not to talk to their child and the child is upset by this and goes and commits a violent crime, the parent could be forced to do a parenting course or be fined.
It is not illegal to NOT talk to your child, yet the law could punish parents for this.

Is there any United Nations declaration or bill of rights that says something like:
"Law obeying people have the human right not to be punished for a crime someone else committed"

This law is like saying if your child asks you to buy him/her a car and you refuse, and then the child goes and steals someone else's car and then the parents will be punished too by having to buy their child a car or be fined if they don't.
 
I think we ought to pass a law that says any law (*cough* Im pointing my finger at you California) that is ruled unconstitutional should have any politicians that voted for, or wrote the law thrown in jail. While we are at it, we ought to throw all the lobbyists in jail for good measure.
 
From the Article said:
"It's much cheaper to focus to getting that elementary school student to school than it is prosecuting a homicide,” she was quoted as saying by the Bee.

WTF does she mean by that? lmao.

Murders, rapists, and muggers running around.

But those are too expensive to prosecute so lets go after parents whose children commit TRUANCY! Only the most vile people born without a soul or conscience commit truancy.
 
So, there are no methods to use to "make" a kid go to school, but you go to jail if they don't.

My younger sister didn't go to school for a while and then was threatened to have a probation officer visit every morning so she started going. I don't know if they were threatening force, but obviously I wouldn't put that past the government.
 
I live in California and got letters from the school last year citing truancy laws because my kids got sick 3 times, once with the swine flu, for a total of more than 10 days over a semester EVEN THOUGH they had doctor's notes. Meanwhile, kids go to school sick because parents are worried about this policy, particularly the Hispanic population, according to the school nurse who says when she calls parents to take sick kids home say they 'can't' because they used up their days and they seem terrified of going to court to explain it. Where a substantial percentage of kids have parents illegally here, that result is absolutely predictable, and this program is a health hazard to the kids who have to go to school with kids kept in school even though they are sick.

In elementary school, my kids rarely got sick, and the parent culture there was that if your kid needs kleenex, he should be home. THAT worked.

Sorry for the rant; this really pisses me off.
 
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