Cain supporter leaning towards Ron Paul should Cain not win

[leonster]

Just IMO, but Herman Cain is not bad, and if he was the nominee I'd probably vote for him in the general election. He's much preferable to Obama.

You'll see on here, there's several of the Republican candidates we really dislike--Perry chief among them (will say or do anything to get elected but isn't actually conservative in the slightest... many of us think he's kinda scummy, both on policy and personally), Santorum (irrelevant but severely, dangerously misguided) as well, and might as well lump Romney in there (not *personally* a bad guy, but again not at all conservative, and flip-floppy to boot).

Bachmann and Gingrich... some of us grudgingly accept, some not so much. They've recently adopted many of Ron Paul's major talking points for popularity, but I don't think they really mean them.

Cain, though... well, I'm sure someone somewhere on the board said negative things about him, but I don't really remember anything specific. Ahh, yes I do, come to think of it--about him having been high up in the Federal Reserve in the past--we're anti-Fed here. Overall though I'd say he's fairly respected, though not preferred, here. To me, he seems a decent guy, not a politician/blowhard (!), and refreshingly enough admits when he doesn't know something.

The thing is: Ron Paul doesn't have to admit that, b/c it's pretty rare for him to be unaware of any political issue and how it relates to liberty.

 

[georgiaboy]

I switched from Cain to Paul. By my own wild guess i expect 90% of Cain supporters to do the same should he lose.

I get the same impression.

I ran into a Cain supporter who had great things to say about Ron as well. Foreign policy was this person's point of differentiation. To which I said "foreign policy or not, Ron Paul's long record in Congress of actually doing what he says he'll do to reduce the size of gov't is something that's astonishing and at the front of my thoughts when I think about my kids' and grandkids' futures". Nods.

 

[Havax]

The vast majority of Cain's support is because "he is not a politican". The main reason why Ron Paul is a great 2nd option if this is your main concern is because he is not a politican either. He's a principled statesman whose only 'special interest' is liberty.

 

[Eric21ND]

I believe we need to restore our economy and bring jobs back to this country. I want the wars ended now. I want lower taxes and less spending, we don't have a tax problem we have a massive spending problem. We need to start building products in this country not outsourcing to China.

What I like about Herman is his business background and I believe he is honest. He is also not in politics, as he said a few times when asked what qualifies you to be president you have no political experience and he says, we have had experienced people in washington, how's that working out for everyone.

I've had paul supporters call me neocon and sellout and even worse, I was really reluctant to come here, but you guys have been very nice, thank you.

You guys have put up a lot of videos, I watched yours and I like a lot of what he said, thanks.

Paul will have an economic dream team in his administration. Peter Schiff will have a prominent role. Not only are you getting Dr. Paul, but all the great people he will bring with him to turn around the economy.

 

[MRoCkEd]

Welcome, Mike! Great to have you here.

I think you will come to really like Ron Paul because of his consistent record of standing for smaller government, balanced budgets, and lower taxes. He also wants to bring our brave young men and women home to defend this country.

Hope you stick around.

 

[FreedomProsperityPeace]

The main reason politicians have such a bad reputation is because so many of them become corrupted by Washington and forget what matters. They start voting with their party and against the will of their constituents. Ron Paul has such a dedicated and enthusiastic following because he has been able to resist pressure from his fellow congressmen and remain true to his conservative principles. The Tea Party doesn't have to hold his feet to the fire because he has been tested countless times and has held strong.

 

[BSU kid]

Now might be the time to reach out to Cain supporters on other sites. At least lay the foundation for RP once Cain drops out....

Cain really is a nice guy, but lacks experience and is a little anti-muslim for my tastes; I think he is very similar to RP on other issues though.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

I think Cain is one of the most honest people in the race now, and he lets it be known what he stands for. In my honest opinion, however, I think his positions are too vague, and I believe he is severely misguided on the economy. Only Ron Paul knows what it really takes to help boost the economy, and that ties in nicely with his views on the wars. If we end the wars, it will immediately help our economy, but I don't think Cain would do either at this point. However, Ron has a very deep understanding in economics and how the Federal Reserve Bank causes the business cycles and the booms and busts of our economy. If he were president, I believe we would have a much more stable economy because he is the only one who truly wants to change our monetary policy, out of anyone running. That's why I sincerely believe that, as people begin to realize that the economy is only going to continue to worsen if we follow the same economic strategies we always have, more people are going to turn to Paul and support him because he is the only one who truly represents a change in the direction our economy is headed, and that is the most important issue to me and many.

However, I don't know what's important to you, but I hope you will look into Ron Paul some more and see why he speaks the truth on this issue when most people advocate the status quo and the same policies we've had for so long that have gotten us in so much trouble. This has been going on ever since the creation of the Fed and Roosevelt's New Deal. We really need a change, and Ron Paul is the only one who can bring it.

 

[Shane Harris]

Ive been a Paul supporter for 3 years now, but i briefly liked Cain back in February before I learned about his support for TARP and the patriot act and the fed. Just this weekend I got my great aunt who was leaning Cain to lean Paul. Most of his supporters just know that he is not a politician and are fed up with the status quo. Ron Paul is the natural better choice in my opinion. Also, if you want to end the wars then Cain is not your guy. He has never once mentioned bringing the troops home. In fact, as someone leaning Cain you ought to watch his 9-11 campaign video which many of us on the forums found to be disturbing and in bad taste. It uses the fear and pain from that tragic day for political gain in my opinion.

 

[Shane Harris]

they disabled ratings on the youtube because it was getting so many dislikes.

 

[Rudeman]

The only issue I have with Cain is I feel like he's sort of a slogan machine (9-9-9 plan). I'm sure he does that to simplify his positions for the American public. He seems honest though and I don't get the slimy politician feel from him like I do from someone like Perry.

Not being a politician doesn't really matter to me because he's running for a political position. How you act once in that position is key and that's why I value someone who is honest has conviction and principles that they abide by, that is why I like and support Ron Paul (that and obviously because I agree with him on a large majority of the issues).


I'm sorry that other Ron Paul supporters have been abrasive to you guys. We ourselves should listen to Dr. Paul and understand the blowback of such actions.

 

[Mike Frank]

One thing that Herman Cain says that has stuck with me is his message of getting government out of the way so businesses can work and grow the economy. That is 100% Ron Paul's philosophy. The taxation, regulation, and picking winners and losers has done nothing but hamper the recovery.

This is another reason I like Cain, I am really liking Paul too, I don't agree with him on everything nor do I agree with everything Herman says either, As I stated earlier Paul is my second choice, most of you folks have been very civil here, this is how a dialog is started and how people can come together and talk politics and actually get things done.

 

[Mike Frank]

30 years of doing exactly what he says he will do.

Yes his record makes a strong statement, I am slowly learning more about him thanks to all of you.

 

[Mike Frank]

Welcome to the forums, my friend of liberty! The reasons to vote for Paul over Cain have not to do with the differences between the two, but the similarities. They are the only two honest candidates who don't go out of their way to regurgitate talking points! They both have a track record of saying what they mean and meaning what they say. The difference is that Ron Paul does have a level of knowledge on how to end the system from within on issues like foreign policy that Cain doesn't YET have the experience in. Paul can articulate a lot on foreign policy that Cain will learn about after he earns an inevitable run for a congressional office to start his career.

Herman doesn't want a career in congress, this is why I like him, he only wants this country back on track, I need to look more into Ron's monetary policy before I pass judgement.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

30 years of doing exactly what he says he will do.

+1

 

[Mike Frank]

Honestly, only Ron Paul himself can convince you. Please take the time to check out http://www.Ronpaulflix.com you will find many of his speeches, showing his view point on the issues. If you like what you see I would urge you to vote for Ron Paul as the Republican Nominee.

Thanks, I will take a look at the site.

 

[KingNothing]

Yes his record makes a strong statement, I am slowly learning more about him thanks to all of you.

Well, there's a lot to learn and I do have to say that you've been an absolutely wonderfully open-minded guest and a welcomed addition to the forum. So take your time in trudging through all of the Paul videos and information on these fair interwebs of ours.

You know, one of the most important things that Paul preaches to Americans is the need to form coalitions. I really think that the Cain and Paul supporters can do that. Both groups recognize that "business as usual" in Washington just won't cut it. And it seems like all of the other candidates only pay lipservice to that fact.

 

[eleganz]

Herman doesn't want a career in congress, this is why I like him, he only wants this country back on track, I need to look more into Ron's monetary policy before I pass judgement.

The only thing you need to know about Ron Paul and finance is that he repeatedly grills Ben Bernanke in financial services committee meetings

 

[FreedomProsperityPeace]

Herman doesn't want a career in congress, this is why I like him, he only wants this country back on track, I need to look more into Ron's monetary policy before I pass judgement.

Ron Paul wants sound money. That's his monetary policy in a nutshell. The Federal Reserve is constantly inflating our dollar and imposing an invisible tax on us. Each dollar we earn is losing buying power, all so the government can maintain out-of-control spending. Dr. Paul was the one who brought this issue to the forefront.

 

[fearthereaperx]

The only thing you need to know about Ron Paul and finance is that he repeatedly grills Ben Bernanke in financial services committee meetings

After watching that clip again..I don't think even Ben Bernanke believes half the stuff he is spewing.