CA-Mountain View area hospital admits over half of CCP19 patients fully vaxxed

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

And somehow I'm the fake libertarian.

You're not a libertarian. You're a prog who is paid to post here.

Lemme ask you something. Aren't you ashamed to lie here?

 

[cjm]

Because war has been declared on me, personally, by the President of the United States.

In war, things get ugly that way: you're either with me or against me.

I know how you feel. The more this "emergency" drags on, the more polarizing our relationships become.

 

[TheCount]

Because war has been declared on me, personally, by the President of the United States.

In war, things get ugly that way: you're either with me or against me.

I'm against you then.

Hope that helps.

Are you in favor of government, by force, jabbing people with a medication against their will and better judgment?

No.

I am also not in favor of government, by force, prioritizing your feelings over the property rights and rights of free association of property and business owners.

I'm assuming you are referring to businesses setting CCP19 policy regarding access or employees.

People are not property.

I am not a chattel slave or indentured servant because I agree to sell a number of hours of my time and skills and labor each day.

Then sell your time and skills and labor elsewhere.

 

[CaptUSA]

I'm against you then.

Hope that helps.




No.

I am also not in favor of government, by force, prioritizing your feelings over the property rights and rights of free association of property and business owners.

Are you in favor of the government using their regulatory power over business to force businesses to collect the vaccination status of their employees and target them for weekly harassment if they don't check the right box?

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Then sell your time and skills and labor elsewhere.

LOL. Except you're a vocal supporter of minimum wage.

 

[TheCount]

Are you in favor of the government using their regulatory power over business to force businesses to collect the vaccination status of their employees and target them for weekly harassment if they don't check the right box?

Also no.

Are you going to ask, one by one, about every other possible covid regulation? Do you assume that I, by default, support every regulation unless otherwise stated? If so, why, when I'm the one who is opposing regulation here?

 

[RJB]

You're not a libertarian. You're a prog who is paid to post here.

Lemme ask you something. Aren't you ashamed to lie here?

Why is it that out of everyone on this thead, only one person has people calling him a progressive. Why is it that no one else has that problem?

 

[acptulsa]

Also no.

Are you going to ask, one by one, about every other possible covid regulation? Do you assume that I, by default, support every regulation unless otherwise stated? If so, why, when I'm the one who is opposing regulation here?

Here? In this thread? Or did you mean a different "here" here?

Where?

 

[TheCount]

Here? In this thread? Or did you mean a different "here" here?

Where?

Yes.

 

[acptulsa]

Yes.

I ask, "Where?"

He responds, "Yes."

Let me guess. Your eyes are brown, right?

 

[Anti Federalist]

I'm against you then.

Hope that helps.

I figured as much, just nice to have it on the record.

No.

I am also not in favor of government, by force, prioritizing your feelings over the property rights and rights of free association of property and business owners.

What about MY property rights, MY right to free association what about MY right to run my business as I see fit?

Then sell your time and skills and labor elsewhere.

That's a step above a false choice fallacy, where you present an option that does not even exist.

I cannot participate in the economy at all, as these mandates progress.

Depending on how SCROTUS rules in the next day or two, unless I comply with the demands to be jabbed with an unsafe and ineffective medical treatment, against my will and better judgement, I will not be permitted to work, trade, travel, worship, assemble or protest, anywhere.

That's what my blah blah blah screed was all about in the other post.

 

[TheCount]

I ask, "Where?"

He responds, "Yes."

Let me guess. Your eyes are brown, right?

No.

 

[TheCount]

What about MY property rights, MY right to free association what about MY right to run my business as I see fit?

The best way to ensure your property rights, your right to free association, and your right to run your business as you see fit in perpetuity is to also support other people's property rights, other people's rights to free association, and other people's rights to run their businesses as they see fit.

Your method, enforcing what you think others should do with their properties, associations, and businesses through force of government, will backfire against you.

That's a step above a false choice fallacy, where you present an option that does not even exist.

I cannot participate in the economy at all, as these mandates progress.

Depending on how SCROTUS rules in the next day or two, unless I comply with the demands to be jabbed with an unsafe and ineffective medical treatment, against my will and better judgement, I will not be permitted to work, trade, travel, worship, assemble or protest, anywhere.

That's what my blah blah blah screed was all about in the other post.

What does your screed have to do with what I'm saying? I'm in opposition to the things that you are screed-ing about, and I'm saying so in this thread. Your knee-jerk regurgitation of Tucker Carlson segments is unnecessary.

 

[Anti Federalist]

What does your screed have to do with what I'm saying? I'm in opposition to the things that you are screed-ing about, and I'm saying so in this thread. Your knee-jerk regurgitation of Tucker Carlson segments is unnecessary.

Well good...somehow I got the impression you were in favor of government forced medications.

Glad we cleared that up.

Now, I apologize for being redundant, but other people than you, do read this forum.

 

[TheCount]

Who on this board has spoken against property rights because of COVID?

Everyone who has said that businesses have no right to deny service to customers based upon COVID, vaccines, etc., or to hire and fire as they see fit based upon the same. That includes most people, I'd say. More than half of active posters. Including the usual fascists, of course:

No, private businesses would never have a right to make such a mandate even if government wasn't involved.

Best examples can be found in the Montana thread:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ate-to-ban-vaccine-requirements-for-employees


And the Tennessee thread:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...-Passes-Law-Against-Vaccine-And-Mask-Mandates


And the cruise ship thread:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...aives-Jones-Act-to-help-get-fuel-to-Northeast


And this thread on employer mandates:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...d-Law-does-not-bar-Business-from-VAX-Mandates

 

[Anti Federalist]

Everyone who has said that businesses have no right to deny service to customers based upon COVID, vaccines, etc., or to hire and fire as they see fit based upon the same. That includes most people, I'd say. More than half of active posters. Including the usual fascists, of course

Apples and bowling balls.

If, outside of any government collusion or force, a business set a policy on it's own, then I simply would not do business with them.

In this case I have no option, since it is government mandating that businesses act as CCP19 police.

Leaving me no choice but to treat them as agents of government.

 

[Invisible Man]

Why, yes, if this chart you posted is to be believed, it is blindingly obvious why he used that interpretation. To get hit the high fifties in percentage, as the doctor we're all talking about in this thread did, you have to look to that column.

The high 50-s that the doctor referred to was the percent of those in that hospital for COVID who were fully vaccinated. Not the percent in the county who were fully vaccinated.

I would assume that when he says "fully vaccinated" he isn't limited that just to people who have been boosted. Maybe he is. But I doubt it.

 

[Invisible Man]

Well gee, Your Grace, why do modern medical officials generally include the adjective "fully" these days? To indicate they're immune from measles, polio and rubella?

Generally, they use it to refer to people who have gotten two doses of MRNA vaccine or one dose of the J&J vaccine. This includes those who have gotten those doses and not yet gotten booster shots as well as those who have additionally gotten booster shots.

There has been some discussion in just the past few weeks about whether or not the definition of "fully vaccinated" should be changed to include only those who have gotten boosters. But that suggestion has not been officially adopted. If anybody is using the term "fully vaccinated" to mean that, they're not using it the way that medical officials in the US generally use it as of yet.

 

[A Son of Liberty]

Apples and bowling balls.

If, outside of any government collusion or force, a business set a policy on it's own, then I simply would not do business with them.

In this case I have no option, since it is government mandating that businesses act as CCP19 police.

Leaving me no choice but to treat them as agents of government.

[MENTION=58229]TheCount[/MENTION] - What he said ^.

And before you want to excuse the businesses because technically the mandate hasn't been implemented as of yet... spare us. Don't pretend that there isn't a coercive element to the administrations statements leading up to the courts decision. And, this administration has a record of simply ignoring the courts rulings, anyway.

 

[TheCount]

Apples and bowling balls.

If, outside of any government collusion or force, a business set a policy on it's own, then I simply would not do business with them.

In this case I have no option, since it is government mandating that businesses act as CCP19 police.

Leaving me no choice but to treat them as agents of government.

Do you oppose Montana's, Tennessee's, and Florida's covid mandates? Or is this selective?