By Kingly Decree, Obama stops Keystone pipeline

[Anti Federalist]

The President King, just like the Anti Federalists warned.


Citing Climate Change, Obama Rejects Construction of Keystone XL Oil Pipeline

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/07/u...ruction-of-keystone-xl-oil-pipeline.html?_r=0

WASHINGTON — President Obama announced on Friday that he had rejected the request from a Canadian company to build the Keystone XL oil pipeline, ending a seven-year review that had become a symbol of the debate over his climate policies.

Mr. Obama’s denial of the proposed 1,179-mile pipeline, which would have carried 800,000 barrels a day of carbon-heavy petroleum from the Canadian oil sands to the Gulf Coast, comes as he seeks to build an ambitious legacy on climate change.

 

[HVACTech]

the "King" failed?

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Anti-Federalists FTW.

 

[Anti Federalist]

the "King" failed?

The King never fails.

His decrees are law.

Move along now.

 

[TheNewYorker]

The tar sands will still be sent through the states as they always have, by rail. Because nothing bad ever happens to trains. Train good, pipe bad.

/sarcasm

Stupid issue, altogether.

No benefit for either side. The pipe wouldn't have made it any less safe for the environment, and also wouldn't have made oil and gas prices lower. It would have only made the pockets of TransCanada richer.

And not even that, really. With oil prices as low as they've been lately, the pipeline would have been a bust. (Pun not intended)

 

[Anti Federalist]

The tar sands will still be sent through the states as they always have, by rail. Because nothing bad ever happens to trains. Train good, pipe bad.

/sarcasm

Stupid issue, altogether.

No benefit for either side. The pipe wouldn't have made it any less safe for the environment, and also wouldn't have made oil and gas prices lower. It would have only made the pockets of TransCanada richer.

And not even that, really. With oil prices as low as they've been lately, the pipeline would have been a bust. (Pun not intended)

Oh, I'm in the biz, and I agree, but that's not my point.

Where does the president have the authority to "approve" or "disapprove" anything at all like this?

Well, the government judges will tell you he clearly has that authority under the CONstitution.

So move along now.

 

[TheNewYorker]

Oh, I'm in the biz, and I agree, but that's not my point.

Where does the president have the authority to "approve" or "disapprove" anything at all like this?

Well, the government judges will tell you he clearly has that authority under the CONstitution.

So move along now.

Don't challenge the king's authority, you might get your head lopped off by drone.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

The President has veto power, for good or bad.

The real question would be why does this private sector endeavor require Federal approval? Is there some type of Federal crony corporatism involved? Eminent domain? Other benefits of having a Big Brother sugar daddy and enforcer involved?

 

[Anti Federalist]

Oh yeah, I'm sure there was a treaty of some sort involved, but you'd never know it by reading the news stories.

The President has veto power, for good or bad.

The real question would be why does this private sector endeavor require Federal approval? Is there some type of Federal crony corporatism involved? Eminent domain? Other benefits of having a Big Brother sugar daddy and enforcer involved?

 

[TheTexan]

Mr. Obama’s denial of the proposed 1,179-mile pipeline, which would have carried 800,000 barrels a day of carbon-heavy petroleum from the Canadian oil sands to the Gulf Coast, comes as he seeks to build an ambitious legacy on climate change.

It's a good thing Obama stopped this pipeline. Otherwise we'd end up with 800,000 barrels a day worth of climate change in the gulf coast. Now, thankfully, that climate change will stay where it belongs -- Canada.

 

[puppetmaster]

The tar sands will still be sent through the states as they always have, by rail. Because nothing bad ever happens to trains. Train good, pipe bad.

/sarcasm

Stupid issue, altogether.

No benefit for either side. The pipe wouldn't have made it any less safe for the environment, and also wouldn't have made oil and gas prices lower. It would have only made the pockets of TransCanada richer.

And not even that, really. With oil prices as low as they've been lately, the pipeline would have been a bust. (Pun not intended)

Warren buffet is please with you obama.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Last week, the company behind the Keystone pipeline said they wanted to withdraw or at least suspend their bid to build the pipeline. https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ac3c12-81c0-11e5-9afb-0c971f713d0c_story.html

TransCanada asks U.S. to suspend Keystone pipeline application

The company sponsoring the controversial Keystone XL oil pipeline Monday asked the State Department to suspend the review of its federal permit application, a request that could push a final decision on the pipeline beyond President Obama’s tenure in office.

The administration is preparing to reject a cross-border permit for the project aimed at transporting hundreds of thousands of barrels of heavy crude oil from Canada’s oil sands region to Gulf Coast refineries, according to several individuals who have been briefed but spoke on the condition of anonymity because the White House’s decision has not been announced. In asking for a delay, TransCanada could hand the issue, which has come to symbolize the broader battle over how the United States should address climate change, to the next U.S. president.

The Nebraska Public Service Commission is reviewing the pipeline’s route in the state after residents there challenged the state’s approval process for the project, and TransCanada argued in a letter to Secretary of State John F. Kerry that it would be “appropriate” to delay any federal decision until the Nebraska route is settled. The company first applied for a presidential permit seven years ago.

TransCanada’s president and chief executive, Russ Girling, noted Monday that when residents challenged the approval process for the pipeline in Nebraska’s courts, “the State Department found it appropriate to suspend its review until that dispute was resolved. We feel under the current circumstances a similar suspension would be appropriate.” The Nebraska review, the company said, could take between seven and 12 months.

A State Department official said officials were reviewing the letter.

Earlier Monday, White House press secretary Josh Earnest said that “our expectation at this point . . . is that the president will make a decision before the end of his administration on the Keystone pipeline, but when exactly that will be I don’t know at this point.”

At issue is the northern leg of the pipeline, which would stretch 1,179 miles between Hardisty, Alberta, and Steele City, Neb. The administration has approved the project’s southern leg.

I guess this means they won't be using eminent domain to seize property to build the pipeline on. At least for now.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-sej-keystone-xl-20151102-story.html

The request also reflects a remarkable turnabout by TransCanada, which has spent years complaining of delays in the process only now to request one itself.

Last month, after meeting stiff legal resistance from landowners in Nebraska, the company decided to withdraw its plans to use a special state law that would allow it to exercise eminent domain to seize land for its preferred pipeline route. The company instead applied for a permit through the Nebraska Public Service Commission, a process that could take a year.

 

[AngryCanadian]

I loved how the GOP claimed that this pipline project would bring jobs yeah very limited job that go hand in hand with health risks. Obama is right on this one though expect calling our oil as dirty was an insult.

 

[William Tell]

[h=2]By Kingly Decree, Obama stops Keystone pipeline[/h]

So he's vetoing it? Or am I missing something?

 

[paleocon1]

The President King, just like the Anti Federalists warned.


Citing Climate Change, Obama Rejects Construction of Keystone XL Oil Pipeline

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/07/u...ruction-of-keystone-xl-oil-pipeline.html?_r=0

WASHINGTON — President Obama announced on Friday that he had rejected the request from a Canadian company to build the Keystone XL oil pipeline, ending a seven-year review that had become a symbol of the debate over his climate policies.

Mr. Obama’s denial of the proposed 1,179-mile pipeline, which would have carried 800,000 barrels a day of carbon-heavy petroleum from the Canadian oil sands to the Gulf Coast, comes as he seeks to build an ambitious legacy on climate change.

It would be a Hoot if President Trump were to issue a Decree in February 2017 sending Barry, HRC, Rahm and 10000 more top dem minions and backers to FEMA Camps for orderly disposition.

 

[loveshiscountry]

I loved how the GOP claimed that this pipline project would bring jobs yeah very limited job that go hand in hand with health risks. Obama is right on this one though expect calling our oil as dirty was an insult.

I wonder how many train jobs would be lost since they wouldn't have been hauling nearly as much?

 

[Anti Federalist]

So he's vetoing it? Or am I missing something?

I'm not quite sure, and that's the point.

To read the news, it was by decree.

And, for the record, I was opposed to the project, as Zip noted, it would have used eminent domain seizures to benefit private enterprise.

 

[dillo]

Oh yeah, I'm sure there was a treaty of some sort involved, but you'd never know it by reading the news stories.

Its interstate commerce, and deals with multiple countries. The power should be with congress and the president. Of all my gripes with obama, this isnt very high

 

[HVACTech]

I'm not quite sure, and that's the point.

To read the news, it was by decree.

And, for the record, I was opposed to the project, as Zip noted, it would have used eminent domain seizures to benefit private enterprise.

oh, well. THAT makes sense..

"Thread: By Kingly Decree, Obama stops Keystone pipeline"

the MSM anointed him. and you believed it.

 

[A Son of Liberty]

So he's vetoing it? Or am I missing something?

Even though I'm an O&G guy I don't particularly care to look it up, but I believe the pretext is that His Majesty's royal Environmental Protection Agency hath duly denied the application for permit.

Oh, for everyone's information:

So, you know...