Buzzfeed hit piece on Rand staff: "Why Rand Paul Lost"

The "real Donald Trump" still supports the bailouts and eminent domain for private companies. What's "hopeful" about that? And why do you prefer Trump to Cruz? I'm not a fan of Cruz either, but I don't see him as in any way worse than Donald Trump.

fine.. go be a delegate for cruz.. i cant stand him myself but it beats sanders or hillary. i have a huge problemwith cruz's relationship with goldman and how he tried to hide the loans. then you have his wife getting 500k from goldman for yrs .... her membership in the cfr and her work on the north american union plan.
 
:rolleyes:
Please post a link to an actual statement by Trump that is in anyway advocating military confrontation with Russia over Syria or any other reason. Just saying "He didn't rule out ever shooting down a Russian plane for any reason whatsoever" means absolutely nothing to me. I would hope that Rand would not rule out ever shooting down a Russian plane for any reason whatsoever. Trump has consistently said "Let Russia handle Syria". While I don't believe him on everything, I do take his word on that because nobody has posted any evidence to the contrary.

He doesn't have to say anything Russia took over Crimea and invaded the middle east with such overwhelming force that Iran and Iraq won't even fight back. Putin does not have to outright say it, he stuck his dick in the middle east and said come at me bro. Russia's entire economy is ran off of oil. Since you are trolling and you insinuate I am a liar and told me to post a source, here it is.


O'reilly : Libya- um, the libyan action is being explained as a humanitarian issue

"I support stopping that kind of slaughter, but the problem is where do you stop..."

Iraq:
"To the victor go the spoils"
"as sure as you are sitting there Iran is going to come in and take over the oil (in Iraq), you stay and you take the oil"


"I am the most militaristic person that you will find."


https://youtu.be/i6G4AAI77kI?t=1344
 
The "real Donald Trump" still supports the bailouts and eminent domain for private companies. What's "hopeful" about that? And why do you prefer Trump to Cruz? I'm not a fan of Cruz either, but I don't see him as in any way worse than Donald Trump.

eminent domain? haha.. trump just answered and got boo'ed by neocons and rinos (donors that own the other candidates)
 
He's been watching too much Breaking Bad.

its sad but the entertainment cabal makes these popular shows about meth.... and then the news media covers up just how bad this epidemic really is across the country. wonder why? because people would demand closing the borders and killing illegal immigration. thats the last thing the powers that be want.
 
He doesn't have to say anything Russia took over Crimea and invaded the middle east with such overwhelming force that Iran and Iraq won't even fight back. Putin does not have to outright say it, he stuck his dick in the middle east and said come at me bro. Russia's entire economy is ran off of oil. Since you are trolling and you insinuate I am a liar and told me to post a source, here it is.

1) I didn't call you a liar.

2) Your "source" in no way supports the point you were attempting to make regarding Donald being open to shooting down Russian planes!

Seriously, what the hell are you babbling about?

3) Iran and Iraq not "fighting back" against Putin? Are you that ignorant? Iran and Iraq are HELPING Putin fight ISIS! ISIS is Sunni. Iran and Iraq are Shia. They are more than happen to have Putin's help in taking out their mutual enemies.

I'm not at all trolling. But perhaps you are. Or maybe just totally clueless.
 
its sad but the entertainment cabal makes these popular shows about meth.... and then the news media covers up just how bad this epidemic really is across the country. wonder why? because people would demand closing the borders and killing illegal immigration. thats the last thing the powers that be want.

economics fail- demand doesn't come from tv, also prohibition doesn't work no matter how many walls you have. Otherwise there would never be any drugs inside jails.
 
1) I didn't call you a liar.

2) Your "source" in no way supports the point you were attempting to make regarding Donald being open to shooting down Russian planes!

Seriously, what the hell are you babbling about?

3) Iran and Iraq not "fighting back" against Putin? Are you that ignorant? Iran and Iraq are HELPING Putin fight ISIS! ISIS is Sunni. Iran and Iraq are Shia. They are more than happen to have Putin's help in taking out their mutual enemies.

I'm not at all trolling. But perhaps you are. Or maybe just totally clueless.

Who armed ISIS, started fracking oil and subsidizing ethanol, and took out Iraq to bail out our economy by liquidating other markets by fiat currency manipulation and oil market manipulation. Turn your tv off if you think ISIS is there just because they are bad guys, they are there for oil money, and we are the ones that armed them.
 
eminent domain? haha.. trump just answered and got boo'ed by neocons and rinos (donors that own the other candidates)

:rolleyes: Dude you're hopeless and clueless.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/425212/donald-trump-eminent-domain-wonderful
Donald Trump: ‘Eminent Domain Is Wonderful’ Share article on Facebook share Tweet article tweet Plus one article on Google Plus +1 Print Article Email article Adjust font size AA by Jim Geraghty October 7, 2015 3:50 PM Donald Trump sees a simple reason why so many conservatives disagree with him on eminent domain, the controversial power by which the government seizes private land for development projects: They just don’t understand the issue as well as he does. “I fully understand the conservative approach, but I don’t think it was explained to most conservatives,” Trump said in an interview with Fox News’s Bret Baier that aired yesterday. “Nobody knows this better than I do, because I’ve built a lot of buildings in Manhattan and you’ll have twelve sites and you’ll get eleven and you’ll have the one holdout, and you end up building around them. I know it better than anybody.” Eminent domain may seem like an obscure issue, but the Club for Growth Action Fund found it important enough to spotlight in an attack ad against Trump. The ad focused on Trump’s full-throated support for the Supreme Court’s decision in Kelo v. New London, which allowed state and local governments to seize land from one private owner and give it to another private owner to further economic development. Many conservatives saw the decision as expanding the power of elected officials and wealthy developers at the expense of the private landholders who often stand in the way of their ambitions. In a perfect irony, the state and city spent $78 million to purchase and bulldoze the home of Susette Kelo . . . and then the developer couldn’t finance the project. (The site remains an empty lot today.) As Ilya Somin put it, “Trump did not merely claim that the Kelo v. New London decision was legally correct; he argued that it was ‘good’ to give government the power to forcibly displace homeowners and small businesses and transfer their property to influential developers on the theory that doing so might promote ‘economic development.’”​

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/425212/donald-trump-eminent-domain-wonderful
 
fine.. go be a delegate for cruz.. i cant stand him myself but it beats sanders or hillary. i have a huge problemwith cruz's relationship with goldman and how he tried to hide the loans. then you have his wife getting 500k from goldman for yrs .... her membership in the cfr and her work on the north american union plan.

oh.. and one small fact i forgot to mention, cruz is not an nbc.. he is not eligible. he is a trojan horse.
 
Who armed ISIS, started fracking oil and subsidizing ethanol, and took out Iraq to bail out our economy by liquidating other markets by fiat currency manipulation and oil market manipulation. Turn your tv off if you think ISIS is there just because they are bad guys, they are there for oil money, and we are the ones that armed them.

Again what the hell are you babbling about? I know the U.S. indirectly armed ISIS. That has absolutely nothing to do with question of whether or not Donald Trump is one of the ones pushing for war with Russia over Syria. He absolutely is not.

Edit: Do you think Vladimir Putin is stupid? If Trump was pushing for war with Russia then Putin would not have been complimentary of Trump.



Edit 2: Trump's spokewoman is hot, though a bit of an airhead. "What good is a nuclear triad of if you're afraid to use it?" :rolleyes:
 
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Without eminent domain, we wouldn't have schools, roads, etc. It's absolutely necessary.

Sounds like something a progressive democrat would say. Bet you can't guess who said it today?
 
Again what the hell are you babbling about? I know the U.S. indirectly armed ISIS. That has absolutely nothing to do with question of whether or not Donald Trump is one of the ones pushing for war with Russia over Syria. He absolutely is not.

Now i know you are trolling, fine believe the media narrative. Vote for the candidate that's keeping you safe from terrorism. It has nothing to do with control over commodities.
 
economics fail- demand doesn't come from tv, also prohibition doesn't work no matter how many walls you have. Otherwise there would never be any drugs inside jails.

where to start... demand? the demand i mentioned was not a function of economics. geez

and prohibition would work in this instance... making the precursor is extremely difficult. this isnt pot or alcohol. granted we have to get serious about illegal immigration.
 
where to start... demand? the demand i mentioned was not a function of economics. geez

and prohibition would work in this instance... making the precursor is extremely difficult. this isnt pot or alcohol. granted we have to get serious about illegal immigration.

oh serious so we haven't spent enough on the drug war, we can just spend more money on it. Or use vague statements like "be serious" are you too afraid to tell me the military state that you would create, the prison that wouldn't even keep drugs out. Tell me how its their fault we don't make shit here and have factory jobs. You are either closed minded or you are intellectually dishonest.
 
Now i know you are trolling, fine believe the media narrative. Vote for the candidate that's keeping you safe from terrorism. It has nothing to do with control over commodities.

Now I know you're smoking meth. I haven't at all endorsed Donald Trump. You've made a claim for which you have given no evidence which is that Trump is pushing for war with Russia. He could be but you have not made that case one bit. This has nothing to do with "believing the media narrative." The "media narrative" is that we should take out Assad because he's a "bad guy." The "media narrative" is that the "hawks won" when Rand Paul dropped out because, supposedly, Donald Trump is so "tough on terrorism". It is you that is actually pushing the media narrative.
 
Without eminent domain, we wouldn't have schools, roads, etc. It's absolutely necessary.

Sounds like something a progressive democrat would say. Bet you can't guess who said it today?

Let me guess? He has the same first name as a certain Disney duck and his last name rhymes with Rump? ^That is one of the reasons why I can't vote for Trump. But I do agree with his stated position, which so far has not been contravened by actual evidence, that he doesn't want to intervene in Syria.
 
:rolleyes: Dude you're hopeless and clueless.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/425212/donald-trump-eminent-domain-wonderful
Donald Trump: ‘Eminent Domain Is Wonderful’ Share article on Facebook share Tweet article tweet Plus one article on Google Plus +1 Print Article Email article Adjust font size AA by Jim Geraghty October 7, 2015 3:50 PM Donald Trump sees a simple reason why so many conservatives disagree with him on eminent domain, the controversial power by which the government seizes private land for development projects: They just don’t understand the issue as well as he does. “I fully understand the conservative approach, but I don’t think it was explained to most conservatives,” Trump said in an interview with Fox News’s Bret Baier that aired yesterday. “Nobody knows this better than I do, because I’ve built a lot of buildings in Manhattan and you’ll have twelve sites and you’ll get eleven and you’ll have the one holdout, and you end up building around them. I know it better than anybody.” Eminent domain may seem like an obscure issue, but the Club for Growth Action Fund found it important enough to spotlight in an attack ad against Trump. The ad focused on Trump’s full-throated support for the Supreme Court’s decision in Kelo v. New London, which allowed state and local governments to seize land from one private owner and give it to another private owner to further economic development. Many conservatives saw the decision as expanding the power of elected officials and wealthy developers at the expense of the private landholders who often stand in the way of their ambitions. In a perfect irony, the state and city spent $78 million to purchase and bulldoze the home of Susette Kelo . . . and then the developer couldn’t finance the project. (The site remains an empty lot today.) As Ilya Somin put it, “Trump did not merely claim that the Kelo v. New London decision was legally correct; he argued that it was ‘good’ to give government the power to forcibly displace homeowners and small businesses and transfer their property to influential developers on the theory that doing so might promote ‘economic development.’”​

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/425212/donald-trump-eminent-domain-wonderful

LOL really? club for growth? they are big on free trade btw. but i have a "yuuuuuuuuge" problem with how they hit trump up for a million dollar donation and when they didn't get it... they bashed him:

In an interview on Bloomberg TV on June 17, the New York-based real estate mogul said that the small-government group’s president, David McIntosh, had solicited a $1 million donation. Trump’s campaign then released copies of what he labeled “shameless pandering” and a “blatant shakedown”: a pair of letters postmarked June 2 and sent to Trump and his now-campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski.

In the message addressed to Trump, McIntosh wrote, “When we met, you expressed interest in helping to fund the Club for Growth’s efforts to fight for economic freedom. That is why I am hoping you will consider making a most generous contribution of $1 million to the Club for Growth.”

The meeting referenced by the letter occurred on May 26—the same day as the grand opening of Trump Golf Links at Ferry Point, N.Y.—when the soon-to-be presidential candidate and the former Indiana congressman met for half an hour at Trump Tower in Manhattan.

Trump did not end up making a contribution of any size to the group, and three weeks later, after Trump announced his candidacy, it issued a press statement trashing him. Club for Growth declared that it would not produce a white paper examining Trump’s record, as it does for other Republican presidential candidates, because he “should not be declared taken seriously as a GOP candidate and should not be included in the debates.”

To Trump and his loyalists, this statement appeared spiteful and raised an obvious pay-for-play issue. Lewandowski told RealClearPolitics that the Club for Growth’s unfavorable announcement shows the “two-faced hypocrisy” of the Washington establishment. “If Trump could have written a million-dollar check, they would have come out and said, ‘Oh, Mr. Trump is the greatest candidate since Ronald Reagan, and we agree with everything he says,’” he added.
 
Now I know you're smoking meth. I haven't at all endorsed Donald Trump. You've made a claim for which you have given no evidence which is that Trump is pushing for war with Russia. He could be but you have not made that case one bit. This has nothing to do with "believing the media narrative." The "media narrative" is that we should take out Assad because he's a "bad guy." The "media narrative" is that the "hawks won" when Rand Paul dropped out because, supposedly, Donald Trump is so "tough on terrorism". It is you that is actually pushing the media narrative.

No I don't buy the governments narrative on the middle east. It's not about weapons of mass destruction, terrorism or, their new buzz word Radical islam. If there was no oil in the middle east we wouldn't be there.
 
oh serious so we haven't spent enough on the drug war, we can just spend more money on it. Or use vague statements like "be serious" are you too afraid to tell me the military state that you would create, the prison that wouldn't even keep drugs out. Tell me how its their fault we don't make shit here and have factory jobs. You are either closed minded or you are intellectually dishonest.

protecting our borders from mexican drug cartels is a police state? you guys are smoking meth. keep the illegal drug cartels out of our country and you have solved about 95% of the meth problem.
 
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