Buying drugs with bitcoins hitting the mainstream

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No, not by the state prohibited drugs but the drugs the state not only allows but also subsidizes:


http://theswisspharmacy.blogspot.com.au/2012/06/bitcoin-introduced-as-new-payment.html?spref=tw

THURSDAY, 14 JUNE 2012

Bitcoin introduced as a new payment option at The Swiss Pharmacy

The Swiss Pharmacy is the first online pharmacy worldwide that has introduced a new and convenient payment option for all it's clients on 15 May 2012. You can now purchase medications using Bitcoin.


http://www.theswisspharmacy.com/

You just have to know shit gets real when you can buy "legal" drugs with bitcoins :D
 
soooooo this is a competing currency, yes?

No question about it - in many respects. Bitcoins float against all other currencies. It's no more a store of value than FRN's or any other currency, but it does compete with all of them in that it bypasses functions ordinarily reserved to traditional banks -- especially fees taken through currency conversion.

For now people are still forced, by and large, to convert back into legal tender, or fiat currency for most transactions. Bitcoins are a teensy microcosm of the overall economy for now, but as bitcoin usage becomes more common, more popular, and more trusted, the overall velocity of bitcoin transactions increases. You might sell something in exchange for bitcoins, and decide NOT to convert it back to fiat currency, but immediately use the bitcoin proceeds to make a purchase of your own - bypassing banks altogether. The more that happens, the more it affects the velocity of transactions that would normally be forced through the banking system.
 
No question about it - in many respects. Bitcoins float against all other currencies. It's no more a store of value than FRN's or any other currency, but it does compete with all of them in that it bypasses functions ordinarily reserved to traditional banks -- especially fees taken through currency conversion.

For now people are still forced, by and large, to convert back into legal tender, or fiat currency for most transactions. Bitcoins are a teensy microcosm of the overall economy for now, but as bitcoin usage becomes more common, more popular, and more trusted, the overall velocity of bitcoin transactions increases. You might sell something in exchange for bitcoins, and decide NOT to convert it back to fiat currency, but immediately use the bitcoin proceeds to make a purchase of your own - bypassing banks altogether. The more that happens, the more it affects the velocity of transactions that would normally be forced through the banking system.

Interesting, anybody know how taxes are handled with bitcoins?
 
Interesting, anybody know how taxes are handled with bitcoins?

Good question. Everyone will have a different perspective, of course, but here's how the bitcoin wiki handles it: (delicately)

This guide is intended for small business owners who wish to help promote Bitcoin by accepting it as payment for goods and services. It's written with the assumption that you operate a regular business that sells goods or services for regular national currency such as dollars, and that you wish to accept Bitcoin as another legal way to pay, and that you intend to pay taxes on your Bitcoin income just like any other income.

With Bitcoin being touted as a way to conduct anonymous transactions and as way to compete with government currency, many small business owners wonder what's the right way to accept and account Bitcoin, or if it's legal or ethical, or whether and how they should pay taxes on income received through Bitcoin.

As far as we know, Bitcoin isn't yet formally recognized by governments and authorities as a "currency". But in practice, Bitcoin is likely no different than accepting payment in other forms, such as cash, or gold, or scrip, or gift cards or foreign currency. We think that it is pretty much the same as the local businesses of Great Barrington, Massachusetts choosing to accept their locally-printed "Berkshire Bucks" to support their local economy.
 
Bitcoins aren't taxed. Transaction fees are low. Wire money to mt. gox for the exchange to happen by sending via Dwolla. This combo seems to be the cheapest when converting USD to BTC.

Only 21 million bitcoins can be mined in existence from now until 2030 I believe. 8 million have been dug up so far from blocks. Difficulty increases over time to mine coins as better hash crunching technology hits the market.

Bitcoins can't be fraudulently inflated because transaction data is checked and double-checked with all others contributing to the P2P network. If a bad hash gets thru, it would be identified immediately and the transaction is void. This is what gives them their store of value.

BTC will be a huge headache for central banks in the coming years. Price of things in BTC will constantly go down over time. The currency transaction is anonymous and your location itself is even more anonymous if you are using Tor. Silk Road can only be accessed with it anyway. But other vendors accepting BTC are popping up daily.
 
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Bitcoins aren't taxed. Transaction fees are low. Wire money to mt. gox for the exchange to happen by sending via Dwolla. This combo seems to be the cheapest when converting USD to BTC.

Only 21 million bitcoins can be mined in existence from now until 2030 I believe. 8 million have been dug up so far from blocks. Difficulty increases over time to mine coins as better hash crunching technology hits the market.

Bitcoins can't be fraudulently inflated because transaction data is checked and double-checked with all others contributing to the P2P network. If a bad hash gets thru, it would be identified immediately and the transaction is void. This is what gives them their store of value.
Bitcoins are hard currency? I was under the impression that they were digital fiat. I haz teh intrigued.
 
Bitcoins are hard currency? I was under the impression that they were digital fiat. I haz teh intrigued.

It's actually a very fool proof system in terms of preventing from phony inflation. The global community keeps all bitcoins in check.
 
The reward for "mining" a block started out at 50BTC per and will get halved approx. every 4 years until it reaches 0 which will happen sometime 2130, although most will be mined around 2030.

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As you can see, we are approaching the first time the reward will be halved sometime in December this year.
 
The second that quantum computers come into existence, Bitcoins will hit the shitter (Bitcoins specifically). There are better alternatives for the long run than the current hashing algorithm that Bitcoin uses. As a software engineer, http://solidcoin.info, is alot more exciting than Bitcoins. In the end, its all about acceptance and popularity - nothing wrong with a little competition.
 
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The second that quantum computers come into existence, Bitcoins will hit the shitter (Bitcoins specifically). There are better alternatives for the long run than the current hashing algorithm that Bitcoin uses. As a software engineer, http://www.geistgeld.org/, is alot more exciting than Bitcoins. In the end, its all about acceptance and popularity - nothing wrong with a little competition.

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Interesting, anybody know how taxes are handled with bitcoins?

Technically, the IRS could treat bitcoin transactions as a type of barter since bitcoins are not recognized as currency. So the fair value in fiat for Bitcoins would need to be reported for each transaction. Like most barter transactions, most individuals will choose not to report these transactions. If a big business, like Amazon, chooses to accept bitcoins, they would likely follow IRS guidelines and pay taxes in fiat.
 
but if we dont use rfn's they dont have standing do they?
 
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