Build the Wall: The only way to secure our border-save health care

[DFF]

Illegal Mexicans understandably come to the US seeking greater prosperity and most importantly, free health care. They pour over our borders DAILY, some get caught, get sent back to Mexico, only to recross the border hours, if not minutes later. The Border Patrol can't achieve it's objective, which is too....okay, think about it....it's real complicated....okay....it's TO PROTECT THE FUCKING BORDER. LOL Before anybody plays the card, I'm not a racist. I like FACTS. And the FACTS are Mexicans with little to no education breed like fucking jackrabbits, and we currently have more than enough of these rabbits, and their offspring, and their offspring's offspring, to fufill all Manual labor jobs for the next fucking MILLENIUM to the 10th quintillion power. Look, I don't like the thought of a wall with signs stating "Deadly Force Authorized If You Proceed Further". And snipers in turrets every other 1/2 mile. But I dislike even less what's going to inevitably happen if we, as European Americans - the FOUNDERS of this country - continue to allow Mexicans to pour across our border without any impunity, or practical impediment.

 

[almantimes2]

As long as drugs are illegal the drug cartels will find a way in.

 

[LibertyEagle]

If they'd do away with the freebies, it wouldn't be nearly as much of an issue. But, they apparently refuse to do that. They're not going to protect the border either though.

 

[DFF]

If they'd do away with the freebies, it wouldn't be nearly as much of an issue.

True.True. The Welfare State needs to make like a tree and get oughtta here!

 

[tpreitzel]

If they'd do away with the freebies, it wouldn't be nearly as much of an issue. But, they apparently refuse to do that. They're not going to protect the border either though.

Right ... hence, I voted for building a wall. I voted for the lesser of two evils... I need a bath.

 

[ladyjade3]

How about - stop giving away free healthcare?

 

[Ninja Homer]

Sorry, but how does building the wall save US health care?

 

[dr. hfn]

i'd be for completely open immigration if we didn't have federal welfare

 

[ToyBoat]

Google "New River" (California) and you'll find the health issues.

exert:
The New River’s flow is composed of waste from agricultural and chemical runoff from the farm industry irrigation in the U.S. (18.4%) and Mexico (51.2%), sewage from Mexicali (29%), and manufacturing plants operating in Mexico (1.4%). By the time the New River crosses the U.S./Mexico border near Calexico, California, the channel contains a stew of about 100 contaminants: volatile organic compounds, heavy metals (including selenium, uranium, arsenic and mercury), and pesticides (including DDT) and PCBs. The waterway also holds the pathogens that cause tuberculosis, encephalitis, polio, cholera, hepatitis and typhoid; levels for many of these contaminants are in violation of United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and Cal/EPA standards by several hundredfold.[2] Fecal coliform bacteria are at levels of 100,000 to 16 million colonies per milliliter at the border checkpoint (possibly more, as this is the measuring capacity threshold), far above the U.S.-Mexico treaty limit of 240 colonies.[3][4]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_River_(California)


Not only that but people entering illegally aren't checked for any health problems or inoculated as they were through Ellis Island. Then there's the language barrier, many have been here for years and still don't know English and frankly don't care to learn.

The people that are pissed off about illegal immigration are the one's adversely effected by it - financially or otherwise.

Mexico needs to pitch in on efforts to fix itself so people don't want to leave there.

 

[Epic]

i'd be for completely open immigration if we didn't have federal welfare

What about all the state freebies?

schools
health care
unemployment
...

list goes on and on and on...

 

[DFF]

It's not their fault. Like LE said, WE - NO - OUR SORRY EXCUSE FOR A GOVT. ENCOURAGES them to come, encourages them to cut in line (read: don't wait in line AT ALL), and encourages them to use our hospitals with NO INTENT to EVER REPAY THEM. The result? American citizens, who were born here, work here, pay OUTFUCKINGRAGEOUS premiums on health insurance.

 

[Mosheh Thezion]

THE REAL ISSUE...

is that hospitals... have no oversite..

literally..

im a poor guy.. and i went to oliveview.. medical center... all i needed was a prescription. for a staph infection... simple...

and i paid the 100 dollars they asked for...

but then... knowing i could not pay... they sent a bill.. which did not show what services were given... at all.. and wanted 1400 dollars.

for giving me a prescription.

a 6 hour wait... 5 minutes with the young doctor... and one prescription.. and they charged 1400...

they knew i could not pay.. and said.. dont worry... we will charge the state.

get it???


they can charge outragious ammounts... to the state.. and DONT have to show what services they provide.

that... is why the state of California.. pays 14 billion a year to the hospitals.. because there is no one watching the hospitals..

they just charge what they like... and the illegals dont complain..

they are racking in billions... and what for??

do they give billions in service??

no.

that... is the problem.

-MEMAT

 

[Alawn]

We absolutely NEED to stop illegal immigration and people sneaking in from Mexico. We just can't afford to continue to allow it. Something has to be done. Now I don't know if the wall is or isn't the best way to get this done. It does seem a little scary that it could some day be used to keep us in. But we need to do something.

 

[DFF]

Extraordinary circumstances require extraordinary measures. Illegal Mexican immagrants fall into this category. Yes, they work hard. But they also work hard at stealing not only jobs from another minority whom would happily do their labor, but also send their money, tax free, back to Mexico.

 

[Objectivist]

Here, this might open some eyes.
YouTube - Immigration Gumballs

 

[Objectivist]

Many comments about stopping free healthcare and that's a start, but it goes much deeper than that here in California. If an illegal holds down a job and is picked up by the ICE radar and is arrested and deported, he can file for unemployment in California and COLLECT IT! My brother and step-dad had employed a guy with a bogus SSI and he was deported, snuck back and filed for unemployment. Then if they sneak their kids in, or overstay a visitors visa they enroll their children in California schools, no questions asked. And the State is kind enough to provide ESL Teachers that nobody else had historically. Then they can obtain welfare and food stamps with the California EBT Card, given so they can shop in the grocery store, or they can buy junk food a the local 7-11.

Anyone want a Moonpie?
YouTube - [ Ligne verte ] 'Billy the kid' et son chocolat xD

 

[idiom]

They have 31 Mexican states. Let the ones at the border ratify the Constitution and sign up and so on until there is a wonderful republic of 81 States.

With 100 Million people they would have 1/4 of Congress and 1/3 of the Senate.

The original 50 states will suddenly be big fans of States rights.

The southern border would suddenly be tiny.



I am the only one who thinks this is a good idea?

 

[Objectivist]

They have 31 Mexican states. Let the ones at the border ratify the Constitution and sign up and so on until there is a wonderful republic of 81 States.

With 100 Million people they would have 1/4 of Congress and 1/3 of the Senate.

The original 50 states will suddenly be big fans of States rights.

The southern border would suddenly be tiny.



I am the only one who thinks this is a good idea?

Last line looks like a statement not a question.
Not a good idea in my eyes unless we get to rape their natural resources and implement mandatory birth control.

 

[idiom]

Not a good idea in my eyes unless we get to rape their natural resources and implement mandatory birth control.

Why but of course. Someone would have to take over the Oil fields previously owned by the state etc.

Get them on an American diet with all the niceties in it, and fix their water for them, give them the mandatory vaccines we all love and watch fertility plummet.

 

[Objectivist]

Why but of course. Someone would have to take over the Oil fields previously owned by the state etc.

Get them on an American diet with all the niceties in it, and fix their water for them, give them the mandatory vaccines we all love and watch fertility plummet.

On second thought, let them rot in that armpit of a country they live in. Let them stack rocks for another 1000 years.