brokered convention or third party?

[Freeberty]

2016 is way too early to be pushing Rand

 

[jointhefightforfreedom]

brokered convention, then third party

If he doesn't get the brokered convention , Then we All unregister as Republicans on the SAME DAY !

 

[tbone717]

I keep hearing that. That is entirely conjecture. Who is to say the establishment GOP will not go after Rand anyway. Look what happened to Libya. They gave up their nuclear program and we attacked them.

They likely will, but we have 4-8 years to continue to elect libertarian Republicans to office. We will do that in 2012, and may have a greater number in Congress and State government than we do today. And in every subsequent year we do more.

If Paul bolts to a 3rd party ticket, for one he will not win. He will be outspent 10 to 1 or worse, and will have no ability to compete. But he pretty much will hand the election over to Obama, as really any 3rd party candidate coming from the right, with name recognition would do. This will seriously piss off a lot of Republicans, and Rand's last name being Paul will be associated with that.

It is not simply conjecture on my part, as you may know from my posting here I spend a good deal of time engaging real folks in conversation, and I float topics like this out to people. This is the sense that I get when talking to people, so that is why I made that statement.

 

[SCOTUSman]

They likely will, but we have 4-8 years to continue to elect libertarian Republicans to office. We will do that in 2012, and may have a greater number in Congress and State government than we do today. And in every subsequent year we do more.

If Paul bolts to a 3rd party ticket, for one he will not win. He will be outspent 10 to 1 or worse, and will have no ability to compete. But he pretty much will hand the election over to Obama, as really any 3rd party candidate coming from the right, with name recognition would do. This will seriously piss off a lot of Republicans, and Rand's last name being Paul will be associated with that.

It is not simply conjecture on my part, as you may know from my posting here I spend a good deal of time engaging real folks in conversation, and I float topics like this out to people. This is the sense that I get when talking to people, so that is why I made that statement.

Republican hack

 

[tbone717]

Republican hack

Why because I take the time to actually talk to people about these issues, then let my emotions shape my opinion? Or is it because I want to see other libertarian Republicans elected to office, so we can continue to grow this movement?

 

[tsetsefly]

3rd party runs ARE FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE, both parties have rigged teh system so its impossible for third parties to win.

Plus Rand has a real shot in 16, Ron must go on till the convention

 

[speciallyblend]

3rd party runs ARE FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE, both parties have rigged teh system so its impossible for third parties to win.

Plus Rand has a real shot in 16, Ron must go on till the convention

that is not the point, the point is as the gop keeps marginalizing ron paul. I will vote 3rd party not obama/romney. I do not think anyone is saying ron is going to run 3rd party. We are left with voting 3rd party unless you plan on voting romney.

 

[Wooden Indian]

Let's continue to donate, but use the funds to purchase a small island, name it Ronulas, and rebuild civilization...

Problem solved. You're welcome.

 

[Dissent]

brokered convention, then third party

I was going to say 3rd party but I like this better...I just want to crush the Republican party...actually gave thought to voting for Obama last night before I voted for any of the 3 stooges.

 

[No Free Beer]

It would be a waste of money to drop out of the GOP race and go 3rd Party right now. He has invested so much time and money in the GOP race, as well as, the amount of delegates has (possibly) has, we must see this through.

That being said, I did vote "3rd party" because I am sick of the GOP. If I were Dr. Paul, and I didn't win the nomination, I would run 3rd party.

The only dangerous thing about that is, what happens to Rand? Would it hurt Rand's future?

Keep all that in mind.

My opinion? Ron won't run 3rd party.

 

[kathy88]

I think if they want to mount a third party run it needs to start now.

I am fully behind Ron no matter what decisions he makes going forward, though.

Me too. NOBP.

 

[bluesc]

that is not the point, the point is as the gop keeps marginalizing ron paul. I will vote 3rd party not obama/romney. I do not think anyone is saying ron is going to run 3rd party. We are left with voting 3rd party unless you plan on voting romney.

You sound defeated today. I sincerely hope you're not a delegate for Paul in Colorado.

 

[NoOneButPaul]

There's simply 0 chance Paul runs as a 3rd party so you can get it out of your head now.

It's brokered convention all the way...

 

[speciallyblend]

You sound defeated today. I sincerely hope you're not a delegate for Paul in Colorado.

i am a delegate and i am going to caucus and i will stay positive but right after caucus my goal is to make sure gary johnson is on the national debate stage if ron paul is not going to run indy. I will do my job do not worry about that but reality is reality. I have no more money to give i have no phone and had my cable and internet shut off to pay my rent. I have done everything i could possibly do including donating money i never should of. so back off. if i was defeated i would say f the march 10th caucus all together. My goal in life will be to punish and hold the gop accountable until i die.

 

[speciallyblend]

There's simply 0 chance Paul runs as a 3rd party so you can get it out of your head now.

It's brokered convention all the way...

no one is talking ron paul 3rd party. we or i am talking 3rd party over obama/romney 2012.

 

[bluesc]

i am a delegate and i am going to caucus and i will stay positive but right after caucus my goal is to make sure gary johnson is on the national debate stage if ron paul is not going to run indy. I will do my job do not worry about that but reality is reality. I have no more money to give i have no phone and had my cable and internet shut off to pay my rent. I have done everything i could possibly do including donating money i never should of. so back off.

Just to let you know - it's more likely that Ron is the nominee than Johnson making it on the Presidential debate stage. Stick with Paul as a delegate. Johnson is no libertarian and is hardly a friend of liberty.

 

[NoOneButPaul]

The goal here should be to take back the GOP in the long run, not focusing in all our efforts on a 3rd party run that can't win and won't do anything but send a message that's already being received.

It would be smarter to just re-focus our efforts on other libertarian-republican campaigns and just let Ron limp his way into a brokered convention.

The main goal should always be to take back the GOP from within and stack the congress with our people.

Running 3rd party basically destroys any chance that will ever happen and that's why Ron will never do it.

 

[marcirvine]

We need to stick to the plan, gather as many delegates at all levels, and send as many of them as we can to the Republican convention. The GOP is being altered by Paul's presence in the race. If we shift gears now we will loose that momentum and all of the delegate potential we have gained so far. Texas and California have hundreds of delegates at stake. The media blackout may continue, but his message will still get out there. His travels and events will still allow many thousands of people to hear him. The delegate strategy can still make a huge impact on the future platform of the Republican Party at all levels as more Ron Paul supporters get involved. And, this race is not over yet. Any of these clowns could suddenly plummet. My state does not vote until May 8 and people here are anxious for the campaign trail to head this way so we can vote for Ron Paul and send more delegates to the convention. We can still take back the Party, and if we all double our efforts rather than quit or shift gears we could even send enough delegates to Tampa to make Paul the nominee. If we abandon the Republican Party to do whatever it wants without Paul and his people, only the establishment wins. If we can change this half of America's two party system we can more easily affect the immediate future. The Libertarian Party or the Constitution Party will still be there next year if this plan does not work, but I do not see either of those two parties having any significant affect over the next 6 months. Let's not give up on the corrupt Republican Party when we have a huge chance at seriously purifying it.

 

[tsetsefly]

that is not the point, the point is as the gop keeps marginalizing ron paul. I will vote 3rd party not obama/romney. I do not think anyone is saying ron is going to run 3rd party. We are left with voting 3rd party unless you plan on voting romney.

SO will I! Like in 08 I voted Libertarian (lol not proud though, it was that shithead barr)...

Agree with voting 3rd party, but a 3rd party run by RP would do more harm than good. You know how far we have come since 07, the movement will continue...

 

[marcirvine]

If Ron Paul does not get the nomination or run third party, I am still going to write him in in November.