Brokered Convention Anyone?

[opinionatedfool]

I'm thinking the chances went up tonight... I just wish santy would .win oh

 

[DRFilms]

Actually here in Atlanta on AM750 they were saying it looks like we might get the brokered convention! There is hope! This is exactly what we need.

 

[Southerner]

just so you know who wsb is ... "WSB WSB Logo
City of license Atlanta, Georgia
Broadcast area Atlanta metro area (day)
Southeast U.S. (night)
Branding AM 750 and 95.5 FM News/Talk WSB
Slogan "Atlanta's news, weather, and traffic station: Depend On It!"
Frequency 750 (kHz)
First air date March 15, 1922
Format News/Talk
Power 50,000 watts (day and night)
Class A
Facility ID 73977
Transmitter coordinates 33°50′38″N 84°15′12″WCoordinates: 33°50′38″N 84°15′12″W
Callsign meaning "Welcome South, Brother"
Former frequencies 1922-1936: 740 (kHz)
Affiliations CNN Radio
Georgia Bulldogs (IMG)
Owner Cox Media Group
Sister stations WALR-FM, WSBB-FM, WSB-FM, WSRV FM, WSB-TV
Webcast Listen live
Website wsbradio.com

WSB (750 AM) — branded AM 750 and 95.5 FM News/Talk WSB — is a commercial radio station licensed to Atlanta, Georgia broadcasting a news/talk format. The station transmits with 50,000 watts of nondirectional power day and night, enjoying clear-channel status on its broadcast frequency according to the U.S. Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and North American Radio Broadcasting Agreement (NARBA) signatories Canada and Mexico, enabling the station to be heard across a wide coverage area during nighttime hours (sometimes extending across the east coast and Midwest of the U.S.).

It uses the slogan "Atlanta's news, weather, traffic, and Georgia Bulldogs station." The station is owned by, and is the AM flagship station for Cox Radio. WSB AM is the sister station to WSBB-FM 95.5, WSB-FM (B98.5FM), WALR-FM (Kiss 104.1), WSRV FM, (97-1 the River), WSB-TV 39 (2.1/2.2), and the Atlanta Journal-Constitution newspaper in metro Atlanta, all owned by Cox." Corporate urinal prostitution, doesn't care about ideology, only $$$

 

[coffeewithchess]

I'm thinking the chances went up tonight... I just wish santy would .win oh

Perhaps you missed my thread I started on this earlier, that was moved to the strange "Hot Topics" thread I can't even locate on the main page easily:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?365491-Want-a-BROKERED-convention

It's okay though, when I brought it up, with a point of how to help ensure it...it was called garbage, a harebrained strategy and had this said of me, "You consistently make the most ridiculous posts on this forum. I don't know how you remain a member."

 

[DRFilms]

Uh... I grew up here.. I know who they are. If anything that just makes it more possible. Boortz and Cain both went for Newt. To have their station say it looks like we may have a brokered convention is like CNN covering the huge crowds at Paul rallies.

 

[Southerner]

point taken.

 

[DerailingDaTrain]

Most people here are giving up and whining constantly. Good luck rallying any support from them. Some have even said they're going to vote for Obama in the general election. *sigh*

 

[tbone717]

Someone needs to sit down and do some conservative estimates of how many likely delegates so far, both bound and unbound are Paul supporters, and see if proportionally with the remaining delegates at stake if it would even be possible for Paul to have 1144 of his people on the floor. Essentially, 50% of the people that have been elected as delegate in all the contests so far would have to be Paul supporters in order for anything like this to be pulled off. Given that there are four people in this race, with our opposition having strong political ties I honestly don't see that as being possible. We would have to fall under the assumption that all of the other candidates were not having their people run for delegate and I think that would be a big assumption for us to make.

Not trying to throw cold water on those that are hoping for a Tampa win, but just trying to be realistic here.

 

[James Madison]

Given that Santorum will clean up in Alabama, Mississippi, Missouri, and Kansas (the next four contests) there's a good chance of that being the case.

 

[tbone717]

Given that Santorum will clean up in Alabama, Mississippi, Missouri, and Kansas (the next four contests) there's a good chance of that being the case.

Right but are we so bold to think that Santorum has his thumb up his ass and none of the people running for delegate are his people? Especially since they all know what some of us think we are going to pull off in Tampa.

Like MA for example, we cannot be so delusional to think that we have 50% of the delegates in Mitt's state as our people. Add Idaho, and even Nevada to that as well where Mitt was really strong and there is a large Mormon population. Or what about the states where we put no effort into and got in single digits. If we are so organized to get people to run for delegate, why cannot those very same people produce more votes for the candidate?

 

[James Madison]

Right but are we so bold to think that Santorum has his thumb up his ass and none of the people running for delegate are his people? Especially since they all know what some of us think we are going to pull off in Tampa.

Like MA for example, we cannot be so delusional to think that we have 50% of the delegates in Mitt's state as our people. Add Idaho, and even Nevada to that as well where Mitt was really strong and there is a large Mormon population. Or what about the states where we put no effort into and got in single digits. If we are so organized to get people to run for delegate, why cannot those very same people produce more votes for the candidate?

Yup, I agree. This whole 'delegate strategy' has to have been one of the worst ideas in the history of American politics, and I've been telling people this for a while. We need to win states. If we win states, the delegates will follow.

 

[kombayn]

Most people here are giving up and whining constantly. Good luck rallying any support from them. Some have even said they're going to vote for Obama in the general election. *sigh*

It's why Ron Paul really needs to think about running 3rd Party on the LP, CP or Americans Elect ticket. He's picking 25% in a lot of states and has tons of 2nd place showings and quite a few 3rd place showing. I bet he can get into the debates and could game change with the LP train behind him.

 

[Constitutional Paulicy]

Without winning any states, how would we still win the nomination in a brokered convention? It looks like we have little chance of winning any states at this stage. At least not when the anti-Romney votes are being split three ways.

I'm guessing many people are now conceding to the idea of negotiating something less than wining the nomination.

 

[coffeewithchess]

Without winning any states, how would we still win the nomination in a brokered convention? It looks like we have little chance of winning any states at this stage. At least not when the anti-Romney votes are being split four ways.

I'm guessing many people are now conceding to the idea of negotiating something less than wining the nomination.

Brokered convention gets a little crazy, in that NO candidate has enough delegates to outright win the nomination...then it goes to a 2nd vote, and perhaps 3rd with all sorts of craziness happening. After the first vote, bound delegates can be unbound...which is why it is important to become a delegate.

 

[Southerner]

Most people here are giving up and whining constantly. Good luck rallying any support from them. Some have even said they're going to vote for Obama in the general election. *sigh*

If they are that stupid, there truly is no hope.

 

[Constitutional Paulicy]

Brokered convention gets a little crazy, in that NO candidate has enough delegates to outright win the nomination...then it goes to a 2nd vote, and perhaps 3rd with all sorts of craziness happening. After the first vote, bound delegates can be unbound...which is why it is important to become a delegate.

Unlike many here, I do realize that. However, even under such a scenario, we would likely see too many consolidate with either of the two popular vote winners who would also be carrying a huge percentage of delegates.

I just dont see us winning if we dont have a huge percentage of the delegates going into the convention. And without winning some primaries it would be a huge reach to say we will have enough.

 

[tbone717]

Yup, I agree. This whole 'delegate strategy' has to have been one of the worst ideas in the history of American politics, and I've been telling people this for a while. We need to win states. If we win states, the delegates will follow.

The funny thing is, is that I think a lot of the "delegate strategy" is a creation of our (meaning RPF) collective mind that an actual strategy the campaign is counting on. Have we ever heard from the campaign that the strategy is based on essentially overthrowing the convention with our people in place just waiting to be unbound?

 

[coffeewithchess]

Unlike many here, I do realize that. However, even under such a scenario, we would likely see too many consolidate with either of the two popular vote winners who would also be carrying a huge percentage of delegates.

RP supporters can become delegates for Santorum/Romney/Gingrich and be "bound", if you get involved locally, you will probably see that there aren't many that volunteer for such a thing, though there are a few dedicated Republicans that have been a part of the "party" for decades and just like going to the convention...but there are many times where they ask for delegates for candidates to be filled (see Iowa), and those spots can be filled by RP supporters.

 

[coffeewithchess]

The funny thing is, is that I think a lot of the "delegate strategy" is a creation of our (meaning RPF) collective mind that an actual strategy the campaign is counting on. Have we ever heard from the campaign that the strategy is based on essentially overthrowing the convention with our people in place just waiting to be unbound?

Why else would RP have stated on CNN he has the 2nd most delegates, and Doug Wead mention this same thing on MSNBC?

 

[tbone717]

Brokered convention gets a little crazy, in that NO candidate has enough delegates to outright win the nomination...then it goes to a 2nd vote, and perhaps 3rd with all sorts of craziness happening. After the first vote, bound delegates can be unbound...which is why it is important to become a delegate.

But like I said earlier here what makes you think that 50% of those slots in Tampa will be our people. Or even better of a question is what makes you think that the other three, highly skilled politicians are sitting around with their collective thumbs up their asses and not getting local politicians, etc in place for delegate slots. They don't need a grassroots forum of people to run for delegate like we do. They have people that do this every four years for them.