BREAKING NEWS: Iran Internet cut-off is WAR coming SOON?

Well the FBI cut communications within Moslem USA just before 9/11. Ding Dong i hear a bell ringing.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4253580,00.html

This is in the Guardian archives:


U.S. pulls the plug on Muslim websites

Islamic groups have condemned a government crackdown on a Texan telecoms company as part of a "witch-hunt", writes Brian Whitaker

Guardian Unlimited

Monday September 10, 2001


Five hundred websites - many of them with an Arab or Muslim connection - crashed last Wednesday when an anti-terrorism taskforce raided InfoCom Corporation in Texas.

The 80-strong taskforce that descended upon the IT company included FBI agents, Secret Service agents, Diplomatic Security agents, tax inspectors, immigration officials, customs officials, department of commerce officials and computer experts.

Three days later, they were still busy inside the building, reportedly copying every hard disc they could find. InfoCom hosts websites for numerous clients in the Middle East, including al-Jazeera (the satellite TV station), al-Sharq (a daily newspaper in Qatar), and Birzeit (the Palestinian university on the West Bank).

It also hosts sites for several Muslim organisations in the United States, among them the Islamic Society of North America, the Muslim Students Association, the Islamic Association for Palestine, and the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development.

In addition, InfoCom is the registered owner of ".iq" - the internet country code for Iraq.

A coalition of American Muslim groups immediately denounced the raid as part of an "anti-Muslim witch-hunt" promoted by the Israeli lobby in the United States.

Mahdi Bray, political adviser to the Muslim Public Affairs Council, said: "We have deep concerns that this once again is an attempt to rush to judgment and to marginalise the American Muslim community. There is a pattern of bias that often permeates all of these types of investigations."

The FBI, meanwhile, insisted the search had nothing to do with religion or Middle East politics. "This is a criminal investigation, not a political investigation," a spokeswoman said. "We're hoping to find evidence of criminal activity."

Several Muslim groups have linked the raid to an article which appeared in the Wall Street Journal on August 13. Written by Daniel Pipes, director of the foreign policy research institute in Philadelphia, it called on the US to "support Israel in rolling back the forces of terror" by shutting down websites belonging to the Islamic Association for Palestine and the Holy Land Foundation.

"The federal authorities should use the tools it already has in closing down these websites and organisations," the article said.

Daniel Pipes appears regularly in the US media, where he is regarded as an authority on the Middle East. Arab-Americans, on the other hand, regard him as a Muslim-basher and a staunch supporter of Israel.

In one magazine article Pipes wrote: "Western European societies are unprepared for the massive immigration of brown-skinned peoples cooking strange foods and maintaining different standards of hygiene... All immigrants bring exotic customs and attitudes, but Muslim customs are more troublesome than most."

In 1995, after the Oklahoma bombing (for which former war hero Timothy McVeigh was eventually executed) Pipes wasted no time in pinning the blame on Muslim extremists. He told USA Today: "People need to understand that this is just the beginning. The fundamentalists are on the upsurge, and they make it very clear that they are targeting us. They are absolutely obsessed with us."

It is unlikely, however, that the FBI could have obtained a warrant to search InfoCom on the basis of Daniel Pipes's remarks in the Wall Street Journal. They would have to demonstrate "probable cause" to a judge, but in this case the reasons may never be known because the judge ordered the warrant to be sealed.

InfoCom's lawyer, Mark Enoch, said that whatever the company was suspected of, the FBI had "bad information"; InfoCom was innocent of any wrongdoing.

According to the New York Times, citing unnamed government officials, the purpose of the search was to discover whether InfoCom has any links to the militant Palestinian organisation, Hamas.

Under an anti-terrorism law introduced in 1996, it is illegal in the US to provide "material support" for Hamas or other organisations on the state department's banned list. Although Israeli sympathisers in the US have been clamouring for prosecutions, there have been no major cases so far and some lawyers question whether the 1996 law is constitutional.

Just across the road from InfoCom's offices, in Richardson on the outskirts of Dallas, is the headquarters of the Holy Land Foundation (HLF). Apart from their physical proximity, InfoCom and HLF are intimately connected through two brothers: Ghassan and Bayan Elashi. The Elashis are of Palestinian origin and of a religious disposition. Ghassan is chairman of HLF and vice-president (marketing) of InfoCom.

InfoCom is a small but apparently successful company with a global business in computers, networking, telecommunications and internet services. Established in 1982, it moved to the area of Texas known as "Telecom Corridor" nine years ago. Its business in the Middle East has been expanding largely because of its expertise in Arabic-language databases. It recently won a contract in Jordan for a website where people can buy and sell cars.

Asked about the company's ownership of ".iq", the Iraqi national internet address, Ghassan Elashi said: "We were one of the pioneers of the internet at a time when all the upper domain names were available for everyone. We searched the lists and found Iraq was available for registration."

To avoid any trouble over sanctions, InfoCom informed the state department that it had registered ".iq", Elashi said. The state department replied with a "ridiculous" list of restrictions which mean that the company has never been able to make use of the Iraqi domain.

He said he had no idea what the task force was looking for in raiding InfoCom's offices, though the staff were giving them full cooperation. He added: "Over the last four to five weeks we have experienced some unusual hacking - mostly by pro-Israeli hackers."

The HLF, on the other side of the street, is a tax-exempt charity established in 1989. Most of its efforts are focused on helping Palestinians in Jordan, Lebanon and the occupied territories, but it has also sent humanitarian aid to Bosnia, Kosovo and Chechnya, as well as earthquake relief to Turkey and flood relief to Mozambique.

According to its website, the HLF has provided sponsorship for more than 1,800 Palestinian orphans and 450 families living in refugee camps. It has funded several medical projects, including Dar al-Salam hospital in Gaza, al-Razi hospital in Jenin, al-Ahli hospital in Hebron and a rehabilitation center for the handicapped located in Amman, Jordan. In Lebanon, it provided safe water supplies for 72,000 refugees in the Palestinian camps.

For several years the HLF has been the target of attacks by Israeli sympathisers. A letter sent to news organisations by New York senator Charles Schumer accused it of "raising millions of dollars for the Palestinian cause in the Middle East, some of which has been knowingly channelled to support the families of Hamas terrorists."

A more specific claim, mentioned on the website of a Jewish organisation, the Anti-Defamation League, is that it has provided "monthly stipends to the families of terrorist suicide bombers in Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza".

The evidence against the HLF presented by the League in a 1998 press release was somewhat tenuous. It said that Israel had banned a Jerusalem-based organisation called the Holy Land Foundation (which it described as the "apparent counterpart" of the Texas charity) on the grounds that it was a front for Hamas.

Also, the League said, the Texas-based Islamic Association for Palestine (IAP) had urged its members to send donations to the HLF. The League noted that the IAP had also "distributed official Hamas literature in the United States" and that its fundraising letter described the Palestinian struggle as "jihad" - "a term regularly used by Hamas".

More recently, HLF and several other Muslim charities have become the target of a $600m (£409m) lawsuit by the parents of David Boim, an Israeli-American student who was shot dead in the West Bank in 1996. Using the 1996 anti-terrorism law, the family are claiming compensation from the charities, alleging that they provided "material support" to Hamas and were therefore responsible for David's death.

Ghassan Elashi dismisses all these allegations. "The Holy Land Foundation is as clean as crystal water," he says. "We have never been bothered by any government agencies."

But to the alarm of America's Arab and Muslim minorities, there are signs that the climate may be changing. Assistant New York state attorney general Karen Goldman has recently been pressing for a tax audit of HLF to "enforce the laws applicable to exempt organisations". Another Muslim charity, the Islamic African Relief Agency, is engaged in a legal dispute with the state department after it revoked US aid grants worth $4.2m.

It is, of course, a duty of governments to ensure that charities maintain financial probity. The concern is that some charities may be getting singled out for discriminatory reasons.

The catch-all nature of the 1996 law against providing "material support" to banned organisations is also arousing controversy. "It makes any support whatever a crime," one Arab-American said last week. "Simply giving blankets to the wrong kind of hospital could be a violation of the law."

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How can communications be so easily destroyed when a tv news van can pull up in front of my house, aim a little dish at a satellite, and communicate. It would seem to me (and I know little or nothing about how this works) that to destroy communications within a country, you would have to get the satellites. Input?
 
How can communications be so easily destroyed when a tv news van can pull up in front of my house, aim a little dish at a satellite, and communicate. It would seem to me (and I know little or nothing about how this works) that to destroy communications within a country, you would have to get the satellites. Input?

Satellites are high latency and low bandwidth. Fiber optic cables draped across the ocean are the primary means of world communication and data flow.
 
Ya know, I almost asked the following question
"With the economy this bad, and our country hanging by a thread of lint...could Bush really be this damn stupid."

But then I remembered the 300 times I have asked that question in the last 7 years and decided to go ahead and answer that question.

Yes, they are that stupid.
Yes, they are that ruthless.
Yes, they do not care about the country.
Yes, they do not care about anyone in other countries.
Yes, they only care about profits.
Yes, they are a disgusting mutation of Corporation and Government.
Yes, to them the constitution is "Just a goddamn piece of paper".
 
Please correct this if it is wrong:

Wednesday's cables were cut off the coast of Alexandria, Egypt:
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2008\02\02\story_2-2-2008_pg5_9

Today's cable was cut off the coast of Dubai:
http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2008/02/3rd-internet-ca.html

Take a look at the locations on maps.google.com and notice that they are in different bodies of water; however, notice that there is a way of passage to Dubai from Alexandria via East Egypt. It looks like the two points could be ~3,500 miles apart. If we are lenient and gave 48 hours of travel time for 3000 miles, a ship would have to travel 62.5 mph.

I can only determine that freight ships travel at ~20mph:
http://www.geocities.com/freighterman.geo/know.html

I want to believe that the same ship snagged all 3 cables. That seems the most plausible without a theory based on conspiracy. Having said that, what am I missing to make this plausible? Can a ship capable of snagging these "internet" cables travel >62.5mph?
 
I found this in a comments section somewhere:

"Ships do not drag anchors. That is not what anchors are used for. Dragging the anchor not only wastes fuel but runs the risk of fouling the anchor and losing it outright. The paths that undersea cables take in the shallows close to shore are shown on nautical charts, and close to shore the rights of way are marked by buoys and warning signs. Captains get fired for breaking those cables."
 
Please correct this if it is wrong:

Wednesday's cables were cut off the coast of Alexandria, Egypt:
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2008\02\02\story_2-2-2008_pg5_9

Today's cable was cut off the coast of Dubai:
http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2008/02/3rd-internet-ca.html

Take a look at the locations on maps.google.com and notice that they are in different bodies of water; however, notice that there is a way of passage to Dubai from Alexandria via East Egypt. It looks like the two points could be ~3,500 miles apart. If we are lenient and gave 48 hours of travel time for 3000 miles, a ship would have to travel 62.5 mph.

I can only determine that freight ships travel at ~20mph:
http://www.geocities.com/freighterman.geo/know.html

I want to believe that the same ship snagged all 3 cables. That seems the most plausible without a theory based on conspiracy. Having said that, what am I missing to make this plausible? Can a ship capable of snagging these "internet" cables travel >62.5mph?

Uhhhhh, perhaps a submarine can travel this fast? BTW, did you read the second article? This is near the bottom of the article. "A blogger at DefenseTech arches his eyebrows at the week's events, asking, Who's Cutting the Cables?

His speculation (and it's simply that): Maybe it is time to be more concerned about terrorists cutting those undersea cables in the Middle East.

A commenter offers this speculation in response:

Sounds more like a NATO op if it was intentional. Terror networks are always using the internet to broadcast their propaganda. There is not much reason for them to do stop that. I'd say its a NATO op if it really was intentional and we were speculating here."


Sorry, I do not think that terrorists would have the technology nor the capability to do cut these cables. I guess it all depends on "who" the terrorists are? They will stop at nothing to create fear!
 
It was probably US submarines that have special equipment to cut those cables..

And I don't know why people think it has to be one ship or sub.. Nothing stops them from cutting these cables with multiple ships/subs at the same time.
 
It was probably US submarines that have special equipment to cut those cables..

And I don't know why people think it has to be one ship or sub.. Nothing stops them from cutting these cables with multiple ships/subs at the same time.

I agree, an intentional operation would be more viable with multiple ships; however, I'm pleading for the plausibility of an accident and two separate ships don't bode well for the probability of an accident.
 
A sailor:

"Ships do not drag anchors. That is not what anchors are used for. Dragging the anchor not only wastes fuel but runs the risk of fouling the anchor and losing it outright. The paths that undersea cables take in the shallows close to shore are shown on nautical charts, and close to shore the rights of way are marked by buoys and warning signs. Captains get fired for breaking those cables."
 
A sailor:

"Ships do not drag anchors. That is not what anchors are used for. Dragging the anchor not only wastes fuel but runs the risk of fouling the anchor and losing it outright. The paths that undersea cables take in the shallows close to shore are shown on nautical charts, and close to shore the rights of way are marked by buoys and warning signs. Captains get fired for breaking those cables."

Yup, man, don't any of you guys go sailing, or fishing on the ocean?
 
http://www.internettrafficreport.com/asia.htm


4 undersea cables have been cut. Do you know what it takes to cut these cuts at those depths? All happening about the sametime?

RON PAUL has been sounding the alarms but I think the alarm is here, probably something very soon as there eyes are now blinded. Shit about to hit the fan?


Lets hope not!

Just a random comment:

I really love your posts man. I think you've got your head on pretty straight, even though sometimes you're accused of being a conspiracy theorist.

I bet we'd get along great in real life.
 
Ships do not intentionally drag anchors. They do drag them in strong currents and veryy rough weather or if unintentionally not hauled in. It could be an accident or it could be more funny business. I suggest we watch the situation closely, but not jump to any conclusions yet.

I am former Navy and private boat owner. I have drug an anchor accidentally before so I know it's possible.
 
Let's Play Join the Dots.

Timeline:

08/17/2007 $30 Billion Arms Deal US-Israel

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/56F1803E-796B-4ACD-A9E3-0F03338F46D6.htm

01/06/2008 Speed boat incident

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0801/S00104.htm

01/10/2008 "We'll nuke Iran" says Bush

http://presscue.com/node/38692

01/15/2008 Nuclear capable missile launch -Israel

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/01/18/wmid218.xml - 47k -


02/01/2008 - 02/11/2008 Iranian Oil Bourse

www.thenewstribune.com...

Iran was supposed to open its petroleum exchange market market today, the Iranian Oil Bourse.
en.wikipedia.org...

The long-awaited Iranian Oil Bourse, a place for trading oil, petrochemicals and gas in various non-dollar currencies, will soon open.

Iran's Finance Minister Davoud Danesh-Jafari told reporters the bourse will be inaugurated during the anniversary of the Islamic Revolution at the latest. (From between 1st and 11th Feb)


01/30/2008 - 02/02/2008 Cables Cut: Iran out...Iraq and Israel not.
 
So..., what are the odds that 3 separate breaks happened accidentally in two separate seas?

A leading Internet provider in the Emirates said an undersea cable had been cut in the Persian Gulf, causing severe phone line disruptions and compounding an already existing Internet outage across large parts of the Middle East and Asia after two other undersea cables were damaged earlier this week north of Egypt.

Omar Sultan, chief executive of Dubai's IPS DU, said Friday that the incident was "very unusual." He said it was not known how the underwater FLAG FALCON cable, stretching between the United Arab Emirates and Oman, had been damaged.

"The situation is critical for us in terms of congestion" on international lines, Sultan told The Associated Press, but refused to speculate on the extent of the damage. DU said in a press release that the cause of the incident "had not yet been identified."

The owner of the FALCON cable, U.K. FLAG Telecom said the cable was cut at 05:59 GMT Friday, 56 kilometers (34.8 miles) off the coast of Dubai and that a "repair ship has been notified and expected to arrive at the site in the next few days."

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/02/02/africa/ME-GEN-Mideast-Internet-Outages.php
 
Yeah, I don't think this is coincidental. However, I do wonder what this could be intended for or intended to do.
 
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