BREAKING: Gunman opens fire on GOP congressional baseball team practice session

You don't do your own dirty work either, you promote violence in the hopes that others will do it for you.
Those who might "do their own dirty work" under the appropriate justifying conditions are not going to be stupid enough to declare it publicly.
And your attempts to goad them into it smell like a fedrat.
 
As for the jargon, I use it precisely because it describes the truth with accuracy and precision. Looking at the world and describing it in statistical terms, where appropriate, is the way one sees the truth of things and separates it from the noise. It is so very easy to be confused by noise, which is why I have dedicated some nontrivial portion of my life to discovering my methods of noiseless analysis. Confusion by noise can be demonstrated in countless billions of exchanges between human beings daily precisely because it is so common and the method of using statistical eyes can be so powerful when used properly. The statistical view doesn't apply to all situations, but those where large populations of people are in question, it oftentimes does and that is why I use it.

My purpose in engaging in these conversations is not to show how smart I am - I am not terribly smart in fact - but because I like getting to the truth of matters I think important to the quality of our lives. I like giving examples of how to see through the bull$#@! that flies all around us - bull$#@! that obscures truth and keeps the vast and overwhelming majority of the people of this world impotently chasing their tails. I choose my methods because they work and I want to share them with everyone. Just as I have been able to see what others here have done in terms of their apparent analytic methods and add them to my own, everything I do here I offer for the world to make its own, for whatever they may be worth.

Don't take anything I write here personally, because I don't offer it in the spirit of being mean.

You think the peace movement was a wonderful thing. The idea of it is - on that you and I agree as I assume we do on the value of peaceable relations between all men. We depart where the notion ends and the subsurface realities underpinning the real-world events begin.

This isn't about winning - at least not for me. It's about better understanding the world around us.

Sure, and don't take it personally when I tell you there are lies, damned lies, and statistics. One thing I've learned after years of listening to the "experts" is their "statistics" are usually at the very least, exaggerated...

So when I see "statistics" or "science" conflicting with my own personal experiences, I believe my gut before the experts. I lived in the 60's. I have personal experience in that subject. If you have "statistics" that conflict with my personal experiences, sorry, but I'll believe my experiences long before I'll believe your "science".
 
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On a different note, NBC had strange reporting on this, stated it was not terrorism. Terrorism is defined as violent action against civilians with a political agenda. Did the shooter fit the definition of being a "terrorist"?

Only if he has brown skin.



No only if he was religious. (muslim or Christian)

Terrorism | Definition of Terrorism by Merriam-Webster

Define terrorism: the use of violent acts to frighten the people in an area as a way of trying to achieve a political goal — terrorism in a sentence

www.merriam-webster.com.ico
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/terrorism


Could it be media's reporting is evolving ?
For example in this news report today, despite obvious political/religious citations, they are still qualifying use of the term by adding "possible":


Man in custody after Bishop airport stabbing identified as Canadian resident Amor Ftouhi

By ABC12 News Team |
Wed 10:05 AM, Jun 21, 2017


FLINT (WJRT) - (06/21/17) - One person is in custody and being questioned after an airport police officer was stabbed at Flint's Bishop Airport at around 9:30 a.m. Wednesday. The FBI is investigating the incident as a possible act of terrorism.

The man in police custody has been identified as 50-year-old Amor Ftouhi, a Canadian citizen. He legally entered the country on June 16 in New York. He arrived at Bishop Wednesday morning. Special Agent in Charge David Gellius says Ftouhi yelled “Allah Akbar” before stabbing Lieutenant Jeff Neville.
Gellius says Ftouhi said something to the effect of, “You have killed people in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and we’re all going to die.”

There were dozens of people in the airport at the time of the incident. Traffic has now resumed at the airport.

http://www.abc12.com/content/news/BREAKING-Evacuation-at-Bishop-Airport-in-Flint-429895643.html
 
Sure, and don't take it personally when I tell you there are lies, damned lies, and statistics.

Statistics has gotten a bad rap because of ignorant people who don't understand what they are, as well as those who misuse them in deceitful ways.

One thing I've learned after years of listening to the "experts" is their "statistics" are usually at the very least, exaggerated...

That's the deceitful misuse of the label "statistics" applied to something that is decidedly NOT statistical.

Have you ever studied statistics? I would guess maybe not. Regardless, properly applied statistical methods show the incredible power in their ability to predict. I've seen it firsthand in my professional life more times than I could count. The operative term here is "properly applied". What you are complaining about is the aforementioned masquerade of bullshit as valid statistics. Your complaint is eminently valid. The only problem, so far as I can see, is that you are painting with too broad a brush. I will add that it can be difficult to know when something being presented as "stats" is valid vis-à-vis nonsense, whether intentionally done or through ignorance.

I will add that there is another dimension to "statistical" thinking as a way of looking at the broader patterns that one may observe in the world. The understanding of basic distributions, as well as what is meant by the "mean", sigmas, standard deviation, z-scoring, and that sort of thing is extremely useful in understanding how large populations work. Understanding the mean and how it defines things is very helpful in understanding what one is looking at in the broader senses. You say you saw good stuff in the peace movement. I'm sure your experiences are valid, but I do not think your conclusions are quite right. If the peace movement was so wonderful, why then are we more warlike than ever? Hell, at least with WWII we can claim to have been attacked. From Korea onward, we have done little other than invade foreign lands and murder people by the millions. If the peace movement had been so great as you claim, I would have thought the American people would have taken the war machine by the balls and put it out of business for all considerations save those where the land was under direct attack. So perhaps I am misunderstanding something in your position that, were I to see the light, I would alter my view. If you can help me there, please give it a whirl.

So when I see "statistics" or "science" conflicting with my own personal experiences, I believe my gut before the experts. I lived in the 60's. I have personal experience in that subject. If you have "statistics" that conflict with my personal experiences, sorry, but I'll believe my experiences long before I'll believe your "science".

Again, we have to understand that just because someone calls something "science", it does not perforce follow that that is what it is. Same for stats. Your points are well taken, but also understand that sometimes good science and stats will produce some result that will chafe your "gut", yet will nonetheless be correct. Compounding the problem is the storm of false science and statistics that assail us daily. There is so much bullshit out there these days, it can be nearly impossible to separate the wheat from the chaff.

Global warming is a great example of non-science being peddled as the real thing. Quantum mechanics is a good example of valid science that leaves one's gut in a knot. :)
 
[h=1]FBI Insists A Politically Motivated Attack On Members Of Congress Isn't Terrorism[/h]https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-shot-republicans-baseball-practice-150155641.html
 
[h=1]Scalise is now in ‘fair’ condition after shooting at congressional baseball practice[/h]http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article157357154.html
 
[h=1]Prof Blasts 'Inhuman' White People, Endorses Idea EMT's Should've Let Scalise Die[/h]http://insider.foxnews.com/amp/article/56537
 
Oh, war most certainly has been declared on conservatives. Has been for quite some time.

The far left have now seamlessly moved onto violence which is only going to grow worse as their behavior is excused by those in power and even encouraged.

And I will NOT allow myself or my family fall victim to one of these lunatics.
 
FBI Insists A Politically Motivated Attack On Members Of Congress Isn't Terrorism

https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-shot-republicans-baseball-practice-150155641.html

Terrorism | Definition of Terrorism by Merriam-Webster

Define terrorism: the use of violent acts to frighten the people in an area as a way of trying to achieve a political goal

www.merriam-webster.com.ico
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/terrorism

This will cause some confusion for dictionary makers.

That said, memes and charts like these also do not help though and can make the situation even more polarized.


 
There are plenty of Asians that have roots going well beyond first and second generation in this country, and they consistently perform at a high level too. This is not a mistake, it is a result of their cultural integrity.

They tend to be overly educated because their culture is better than many of the alternatives. Their cultures typically value education. It is no surprise at all that they consistently outperform whites on IQ tests, and why they can integrate themselves into western civilization successfully. They demonstrate the behaviors that successfully build civilizations, and no surprise! - Asians have consistently established very successful countries.

And then you have South America, Africa, and the Middle East. In the Middle East you have the Jews, the only group consistently performing higher than Asians in IQ tests, and unsurprisingly they possess the only country that can be considered successful in that part of the world.

Better people create better cultures, and better cultures result in successful civilizations. Successful civilizations possess cultures that routinely produce individuals of higher quality than the alternatives.

People are only equal in a purely negative sense.

Heroic are those individuals that rise above their shitty cultures and become excellent. They are heroes because they are rare. Most do not.
Ashkenazi jews specifically-who emigrated to Israel from Eastern Europe in the 20th century and have no ethnic or historic ties to Palestine (now called "Israel"). (but don't let me spoil your ignorant racialist narrative too much) ;)
 
Ashkenazi jews specifically-who emigrated to Israel from Eastern Europe in the 20th century and have no ethnic or historic ties to Palestine (now called "Israel"). (but don't let me spoil your ignorant racialist narrative too much) ;)

You didn't spoil anything. The Sephardim and Ashkenazi are both tied together by Judaism, which is why they've produced a successful country together. A shared culture with an emphasis on education significantly higher than that found in the surrounding countries. They're also not stupid enough to invite social discord by importing ingrates.

Common religious beliefs are also why Protestant colonists to the USA from various ethnicities were able to get along with more harmony than could reasonably be expected of different ethnicities otherwise. You could just as well have used the USA as an attempt to destroy my "racialist narrative" (correct term: culture narrative) given the much wider inclusion of ethnicities (British, Irish, Scots-Irish, German, and so on) than the Jews achieved, and with the notable distinction that Protestants ended up absorbing Catholics in the case of the former. Jews managed to have less diversity than the Catholic to Protestant divide, making the integration less difficult, but at least the USA managed along under the heading of Christianity.

You didn't say anything of which I wasn't already aware, and your counterargument, unsurprisingly, lacks any merit as a result.
 
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[h=1]Caught On Tape: Democratic Party Official Says He's "Glad [Scalise] Got Shot, I Wish He Was F*cking Dead"[/h]http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-23/caught-tape-democratic-party-official-says-hes-glad-scalise-got-shot-i-wish-he-was-f
 
One of "Bill Nye - the Left Wing sellout guy's" writers:

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What's to fucking discuss? No laws in place or any laws or ideas proposed, besides total confiscation, would have prevented this guy from buying a weapon. And total confiscation ain't gonna happen sweet tits.
 
What's to fucking discuss? No laws in place or any laws or ideas proposed, besides total confiscation, would have prevented this guy from buying a weapon. And total confiscation ain't gonna happen sweet tits.

And lets not forget, when they say "old white men die", remember Rand was on that field, and his father would have been as well.
 
And then you have South America, Africa, and the Middle East. In the Middle East you have the Jews, the only group consistently performing higher than Asians in IQ tests, and unsurprisingly they possess the only country that can be considered successful in that part of the world.

Not sure how this turned into a discussion about iZrael but ok.

Building the world's largest open air prison, unchecked sense of entitlement, stealing land by force, collective punishment, extermination, all hallmarks of a successful State.

And how did it achieve any so-called success? By leeching off the backs of the American tax payer.

Arab nations have been under constant attack since the creation of iZrael.

Clearly, TPTB, the Globalists etc. have made the decision that the Arab states have no right to self determination.

In 1953 we overthrew Iran's democratically elected leader via Operation Ajax.

And sine then its been non-stop attacks right up to present day with the US led bombardment of Syria resulting in 450,000 dead and the creation of millions of refugees.

Although your self-serving bias is impressive.

But I dont necessarily blame you.

We've been taught to view history in a bubble.
 
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Not sure how this turned into a discussion about iZrael but ok.

If all you took out of that post was the mention of Israel, then that is rather sad, and a strong indicator that you have a serious problem. The point is Jews have done quite well with Israel, like the Chinese with China, and the Japanese with Japan. Rich, successful cultures that retain substantial modern day relevance. Additionally, prior to the creation of the modern state of Israel the Jews consistently found their way into positions of influence in various countries. This is the mark of a successful culture with an intelligent people highly adaptable to their circumstances.

Building the world's largest open air prison, unchecked sense of entitlement, stealing land by force, collective punishment, extermination, all hallmarks of a successful State.

And how did it achieve any so-called success? By leeching off the backs of the American tax payer.

"The world's largest open air prison" and "unchecked sense of entitlement" are symptoms of cultural decadence. All abuses of government power stem from a lack of popular vigilance.

Otherwise this is the classically myopic case of only being able to see one side of the coin, the tyrant. This sort of nonsense coming from someone that later attempts to chide me for analyzing history in a bubble. Laughable. The American tax payer saw substantial benefit from the State over the history of this country's existence, and some of those benefits impact us today. This is setting aside that the rapacious income tax has not always been a fixture of this country's history, of course, which would render your leeching comment mostly null-and-void prior to its enactment.

The key point is when the leeches no longer provide a benefit in line with what they extract. The government, as it exists now, most definitely sucks up more than it contributes. It has grossly exceeded its primary duties for reasons easily explained by the decadence and apathy of the population. Severe correction is in order.

Americans never settle the West without that successful "State" you obviously hate so much. A very substantial amount of the wealth Americans enjoy today springs from those supposedly misbegotten gains. Hell, without the British State this country never would have had an opportunity to get started in the first place. Of course, I do not doubt that some anarchist out there thinks that anything a State is involved with must necessarily be tainted, and that the world would have been much better off without the involvement of one.

Looking back at posterity all Americans should be thankful for the British Empire giving the settlers an opportunity to get a foothold and defend it. It doesn't happen without them, and if it wasn't them it would have been the French, Spanish, Dutch or God only knows what else. Failure to recognize that is sheer ungratefulness, the sort of myopia I expect from people that can only see tyrants.

Are Americans supposed to apologize for conquering lands formerly held by the Native Americans? Apologizing for what we benefit from and will not relinquish is ludicrously stupid. To that end I find your comments about "stealing land by force, collective punishment, and extermination" utterly useless.

Successful States are the ones that do not fall, successful cultures are ones that will outlast a State that does fall and the most successful rise again. States are composed of the people that give them power. The American people wanted to expand and so they did. The State supported them, and when the State won battles of conquest it was the American people that benefited. This is the boiled down history of Westward expansion. American settlers repeatedly violated treaties to stake out their own claims, ones opposed by that of the Natives, and when the settlers complained the State supported their own.

Arab nations have been under constant attack since the creation of iZrael. The overthrow of Iran's democratically elected leader via Operation Ajax in 1953 right up to present day with the US led bombardment of Syria resulting in the deaths of 450,000 Syrians and the creation of millions of refugees.

Arab nations had been performing pathetically since the Middle Ages. They had their golden age and then decided to aggressively regress. Even that great bastion of Islamic achievement, the Ottoman Empire, was basically shit despite its longevity.

Persian culture has largely been subverted by the cultural rot that is Islam. Operation Ajax should never have occurred, but if you think the Persians (Iranians) weren't going to have problems with hardline Muslims then you have no understanding of the history of the region. Similarly, Syria would probably still be fighting Muslim militants regardless, the only difference is it would be on a more manageable scale if the US hadn't already screwed around in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The USA should not be screwing around in the region, of course. It serves no purpose and drains resources. This goes back to decadence and apathy, Americans not doing their damn job in getting the government under control.

The rest of your post was deleted as it was useless.
 
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